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    Silence surpasses speech. duncan228's Avatar
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    Cuban sees 'common sense' steroid use
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    Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban says steroids could have a legal and useful place in sports -- as long as they are administered under a doctor's supervision to help athletes recover from injuries and there's no risk of long-term health effects.

    "I'm not an expert in the subject, but if we get to the point where there aren't long-term negative health impacts, why wouldn't you do it?" Cuban said, according to Pittsburgh-area media reports.

    Cuban, speaking at a University of Pittsburgh forum on Tuesday, addressed the topic when asked about Orlando Magic forward Rashard Lewis' 10-game suspension during last season's playoffs.

    Lewis, who was suspended after testing positive for elevated testosterone levels, said he had taken an over-the-counter supplement that included a banned substance.

    "I'll get killed for saying this ... but I'm not so against steroids if they're administered under proper supervision and there is no long-term damage," Cuban said.

    "We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids," Cuban added. "If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly, as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health-impact issues."

    "If somebody thinks it's controversial, fine. To me, it's just common sense. I'm sure I'll hear about it [today] that 'Cuban is for steroids.' "

    Later, speaking with reporters, Cuban stressed he would support only the supervised use of steroids if they were proved to not have long-term health effects.

    "You have to get to the point where that risk isn't there, and we're not there yet," he said.

    Cuban, a Pittsburgh-area native, led his discussion at the forum by addressing a question he said he is asked every time he comes home.

    "No, I'm not buying the Pittsburgh Pirates," he said. "I tried. [It's] not going to happen. We'll leave it at that."

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    The Legend Grows da_suns_fan's Avatar
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    Yep. Still an ass-hat.

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    Yep. Still an ass-hat.
    How does that make him an "asshat?" Disagree with him with him all you want, but what is scorn-worthy of his position?

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    Meh, I don't care.
    He's still a wit
    Always has been, always will be

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    I agree with Laka, Cubes just saying aloud what all Owners are secretly thinking.

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    If I'm an owner, I'm thinking just like Cuban. I don't know if there is a way to administer steroids without there being long-term health effects. You give a guy 50 mil to play for 5 years and he blows his knee in his first year, guess what, you don't really care how he regains his health. I'm sure most owners will privately agree with Cuban on this one.
    I don't see what's the big deal about his comments at all. People use cortical steroids all the time to recover from illnesses. He also went on to say that as of yet he doesn't see how steroids could be reasonably guaranteed to be safely administered. What's the ing big deal? Oh yeah, it's going to be twisted into "Cuban wants players to start taking steroids."

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    Meh, I don't care.
    He's still a wit
    Always has been, always will be
    solid take.

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    That's a ing rockstar take. I don't know where I read it, but recently some scout or rival executive said this about Cuban:

    "His antics are often embarrassing, but as an owner he's off the charts. Everything you'd want as a fan."

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    That's a ing rockstar take. I don't know where I read it, but recently some scout or rival executive said this about Cuban:

    "His antics are often embarrassing, but as an owner he's off the charts. Everything you'd want as a fan."
    I don't care if someone on my favorite team's rivals says something intelligent. They're still wits I tell you.

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    How does that make him an "asshat?" Disagree with him with him all you want, but what is scorn-worthy of his position?
    Because its completely asinine that someone has to explain to him why performance enhancing drugs such as freaking STEROIDS arent a good thing for organized sports, even if they are safe.

    Im not surprised youre defending him though. Youre so completely predictable.

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    I don't care if someone on my favorite team's rivals says something intelligent. They're still wits I tell you.
    I dont care if the owner of my team says something completely stupid. I'll defend him no matter what!

    Dairy Queen employees ARE re s!!!!!!!

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    Mark Cuban is a .. he shuld leave the nba. just like david stern.

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    I'm a big Mark Cuban hater, but I don't see anything wrong with what he said here. Now when he says something during or after a game. Then he is dumb

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    Because its completely asinine that someone has to explain to him why performance enhancing drugs such as freaking STEROIDS arent a good thing for organized sports, even if they are safe.
    He was discussing it in the context of using it as part of a rehab program. What's the big deal? I could care less either way.

    Im not surprised youre defending him though. Youre so completely predictable.
    I'm not surprised that you're kneejerked into bashing the guy anytime he opens his mouth. I'd rather have a quiet guy like Robert Sarver at the helm. Color me jealous.

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    I dont care if the owner of my team says something completely stupid. I'll defend him no matter what!
    I don't care if a high-profile controversial owner says something unremarkable. I'll bash him no matter what!

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    Mark Cuban is a .. he shuld leave the nba. .
    Do you miss the good ol nineties when the Spurs used to wipe the floor with the Mavs??

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    I don't care if a high-profile controversial owner says something unremarkable. I'll bash him no matter what!


    So "unremarkable" Cuban led into the comment with "I'll get killed for saying this..."

    Its just Cuban being Cuban and Mav fan beig Mav fan.

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    Ah good old Cuban and controversy walking hand in hand again and again. He's like the Glenn Beck of sports owners. Hate him if he's on your side and hate him if he's against it.

    In any case I somewhat agree although like Cuban I'm no god damn medical expert. If it gets to the point that he describes then sports leagues will likely change some regulations although the stigma associated with steroids and baseball doesn't help jack .

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    So "unremarkable" Cuban led into the comment with "I'll get killed for saying this..."
    Because he's Mark Cuban and dip s like you respond Pavlov-like anytime he says anything. He could say the sun will rise in the East and set in the West and you'd jump all over him:

    So when he was speaking to several hundred University of Pittsburgh studends Tuesday afternoon, and somebody asked him about steroids in sports, Cuban took the opportunity to say that, someday, if chemists and doctors can alleviate long-term side-effects from steroids, he believes they should be OK'd for sports.

    Sitting courtside before the game against Cleveland Tuesday evening, he clarified.

    "How is it different than getting Lasik surgery so you can have perfect vision?'' Cuban said. "Or how is it different than Tommy John surgery so you can get a perfect elbow? If they can improve steroids to where they have no harmful long-term effects, I don't see the problem with wanting perfect muscles.''

    Interesting thought, but Cuban acknowledged that modern medicine -- as great as it is -- hasn't reached that point yet.
    I find that block quote utterly unremarkable.




    Its just Cuban being Cuban and Mav fan beig Mav fan.
    More like DSF being DSF. But you're right. Robert Sarver is so much better. He won't dare open up his mouth and opine about controversial topics. It must be so refreshing to be blessed with a guy like him while us Mavs fans are saddled with a guy like Cuban.

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    I mean, what is your argument dsf? That steroids compromises the integrity of professional sports? If one day in the distant future it's safe and legal and then available to any athlete that wants it, then what is the problem?
    Last edited by Findog; 10-21-2009 at 05:10 PM.

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    Because he's Mark Cuban and dip s like you respond Pavlov-like anytime he says anything. He could say the sun will rise in the East and set in the West and you'd jump all over him:
    Yep, saying the sun will rise in the east and set in the west is TOTALLY the same thing as saying professional athletes should be allowed to use banned subsances when properly regulated. TOTALLY!

    You hear stuff like that fom other owners all the time! Just last week Paul Allen was stating that the NBA should just drop its drug policy all together! And how about Donald Sterling suggesting that we just do away with referees and fouls while were at it! Its just when Cuban says it that people like me make a big deal out of it.

    More like DSF being DSF. But you're right. Robert Sarver is so much better. He won't dare open up his mouth and opine about controversial topics. It must be so refreshing to be blessed with a guy like him while us Mavs fans are saddled with a guy like Cuban.
    Robert Sarver is as big of a as you and Cuban put together. I would never defend that guy. I wonder what horrible crime the franchise did to deserve hm.



    btw - to the guy who said steroids dont matter in the NBA:

    Picutre Dwight Howard......................on steroids.

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    Yep, saying the sun will rise in the east and set in the west is TOTALLY the same thing as saying professional athletes should be allowed to use banned subsances when properly regulated. TOTALLY!
    He's speaking in the context of one day when medicine has advanced enough to where anabolic steroids would be safe enough to be legalized. How can you regulate something that is illegal? Where are your comprehension skills? You think the NBA will ever allow or sanction the widespread use by trainers and team doctors of banned substances?

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    Picutre Dwight Howard......................on steroids.
    Picture opposing centers bodying him up.....on steroids. If steroids advance to the point that they are safe under medical supervision and are legalized, then any athlete that wants them can have them. Why does Kevin Durant not bulk up and add muscle with a weight-lifting program, while other players do?

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    I mean, what is your argument dsf? That steroids compromises the integrity of professional sports? If one day in the distant future t's safe and legal and then available to any athlete that wants it, then what is the problem?
    I know you are smarter than this, but I'll bite.

    Sports are suppose to be about teamwork, hard work, sportsmanship, camraderie etc.

    Its absoultely ridiculous to think it would be no big deal to have organized physical compe ion decided by which team doctor best administered "the clear". Or which trainer was able to get everyone in the proper cycle correctly during the playoffs. We would no longer use terms like "who wants it more". Instead we would switch to wondering whos on the best stuff and pretty much everyone would lose interest. It would basically ruin sports as a whole.

    Yeah, nothing "unremarkable" about that at all.

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    Nothing good can come from roids for a basketball player. It'll make them slower, and more prone to knee injuries.

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