Cuban sees 'common sense' steroid use

[Findog]

Instead we would switch to wondering whos on the best stuff and pretty much everyone would lose interest. It would basically ruin sports as a whole.

Which is why baseball experienced a surge in popularity during the late nineties when all records were shattered and we began witnessing feats that had never been accomplished before. It's why the Tour De France was followed like never before when Lance Armstrong won it 7 times in a row Please...if anything, steroids would increase the popularity of sports, and it would lead to athletes missing less time bc of injuries. Steroids can't create talent.

Steroids were ultimately bad for baseball because it was done under the table, some players played it clean while other players didn't, and it was done with substances that have long-term ill effects on health. It hurt baseball's credibility in the long-run because the integrity of the compe ion was compromised. In a theoretical world where steroids are safe and legal, this would not be the case.

[da_suns_fan]

Which is why baseball experienced a surge in popularity during the late nineties when all records were shattered and we began witnessing feats that had never been accomplished before. It's why the Tour De France was followed like never before when Lance Armstrong won it 7 times in a row Please...if anything, steroids would increase the popularity of sports.

Yep...cuz people would have reacted the same way if they KNEW Mark McGwire was breaking the home run record on steroids. Same with Barry Bonds. No one would have cared about the crazy amount of crap he was on! They wont care! Juice em all up!

And no one would have cared if Lance Armstrong was winning the Tour De France on steroids. Everyone already assumed it! Its not like it was a big deal when he tested posetive or anything!

EPIC. FAIL.

[da_suns_fan]

Baseball was ROCKING in the 90's.

Cuz people were naive. Baseball sure did take a huge hit when star after star was revealed to have been doing steroids the whole time.

[Findog]

Yep...cuz people would have reacted the same way if they KNEW Mark McGwire was breaking the home run record on steroids. Same with Barry Bonds. No one would have cared about the crazy amount of crap he was on! They wont care! Juice em all up!

They wouldn't care if steroids were safe and legal. Last I checked, Cuban wasn't advocating that his players start getting bulked up on the down low on dangerous .

And no one would have cared if Lance Armstrong was winning the Tour De France on steroids. Everyone already assumed it! Its not like it was a big deal when he tested posetive or anything!

Not in a world where steroids are safe and legal.

EPIC. FAIL

You're right about that.

[da_suns_fan]

I never knew steroids had an effect on a person will.

That went over your head. Screw a person's "will", theres no way a cornerback is going to be able to cover a wide receiver on certain steroids.

Findog says "well the cornerback will be on steroids too!". Of course, everyone responds differently to chemical in their body. The conversation will change from "who wants it more" to "whose body is best responding to whatever steroids theyre on".

[da_suns_fan]

They wouldn't care if steroids were safe and legal. Last I checked, Cuban wasn't advocating that his players start getting bulked up on the down low on dangerous .



Not in a world where steroids are safe and legal.



You're right about that.

You TRULY are a giant .

Armstrong was a sensation because people thought someone was winning it year after just because he was BETTER and TOUGHER than everyone else. To think it wouldnt have made a difference if everyone knew he was taking steroids is so ing stupid.

You. Are. ing. Stupid.

Or stubborn, I guess. I dont even think you really believe that. I think you'll just defend your asshat owner no matter WHAT he says.

[da_suns_fan]

Whats more naive is people who think that drugs have not played a part of sports history going all the way back to Babe Ruth, Ali, ect. I think the average baseball fan didn't really care whether the players were taking the drugs. At the end of the day people want to be entertained. People tend to be so hypocritical. You'll eat that Big Mac full of growth hormones and preservatives endorsing everything negative that comes with it health wise, but in the same breath castrate the person who uses the drug directly. Whats the difference?

Because it doesnt matter how many "big macs" you eat, youre never going to break the home run record.

People usually make that argument about "greenies" which is like drinking a couple of red bulls.

They say the cream and the clear are so strong they will make any average joe an olympic caliber athlete. Seriously.

I understand your point, but theres a huge line between STEROIDS and things like greenies (or the preservatives in a big mac).

[Findog]

You TRULY are a giant .

"I'm losing the argument, so now on to the name-calling portion."

Armstrong was a sensation because people thought someone was winning it year after just because he was BETTER and TOUGHER than everyone else. To think it wouldnt have made a difference if everyone knew he was taking steroids is so ing stupid.

You think the interest in LA winning the TDF was because he was BETTER and TOUGHER than everyone else? No, it was because of his performance coming back from cancer.

You. Are. ing. Stupid.

"I'm losing the argument, so now on to the name-calling portion."

Or stubborn, I guess. I dont even think you really believe that. I think you'll just defend your asshat owner no matter WHAT he says.

I'll call out people that kneejerk bash him no matter what he says. I don't even see a reasonable critique in your position, just a bunch of schmaltzy about how sports is about "team-building" and "character" and "overcoming adversity" and other United Way .

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

"I'm losing the argument, so now on to the name-calling portion."

You basically summed up DSF perfectly.

[Findog]

Whats more naive is people who think that drugs have not played a part of sports history going all the way back to Babe Ruth, Ali, ect. I think the average baseball fan didn't really care whether the players were taking the drugs. At the end of the day people want to be entertained. People tend to be so hypocritical. You'll eat that Big Mac full of growth hormones and preservatives endorsing everything negative that comes with it health wise, but in the same breath castrate the person who uses the drug directly. Whats the difference?

Steroid use and abuse is rampant and widespread in the NFL. Any knowledgeable observer of the league is well aware of that. And guess what? Fans don't ultimately care. And this is a system under which many players are taking banned substances that aren't entirely safe. And for all of that, the NFL is far and away the most popular spectator sport in the United States. The NBA or MLB, take your pick, is a very distant second. If DSF thinks concerns about steroid use would turn fans off from professional sports, he's got another thing coming:

[duncan228]

Mavericks owner Cuban takes pro-steroid stance - report

Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told a group of American university students that he is in favour of supervised steroid use for athletes.

Speaking at a student forum at the University of Pittsburgh, Cuban said his "common sense" tells him that athletes could benefit from using steroids if they were made legal, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported Wednesday.

Cuban said athletes could use steroids to recover from injuries as long as a doctor is supervising the programme and it could be insured there were no long-term harmful side effects.

"I will get killed for saying this … but I'm not so against steroids," Cuban said. "We do performance-enhancing things all the time, just not steroids.

"If you administer them properly and fairly and set the rules strictly as long as in doing so we recognize there are no negative long-term health impact issues.

"Sometimes, you just put the blinders on because it came from underground. Rather than saying, 'what's the best way to do this and is there a positive out of it?' We just dismiss it."

The controversial Cuban also boasted to the students that he has been fined more than 1.5 million dollars by the National Basketball Association.

"Maybe because I don't have to deal with it that it is an uninformed comment," Cuban said. "but I think my position is common sense."

Cuban said he doesn't expect any of the American professional sports leagues to abandon their steroid-testing programmes anytime soon.

"You have to get to the point where that risk isn't there and we are not there yet," he said.

Orlando Magic forward Rashard Lewis was slapped with a 10-game suspension in August for violating the NBA's drug policy.

NBA players are randomly tested four times each season under the league's Anti-Drug Agreement.

The first positive test for steroids results in a 10-game suspension.

The second positive test is a 25-game suspension and the third positive test is a one-year suspension.

[ginobili's bald spot]

Nothing good can come from roids for a basketball player. It'll make them slower, and more prone to knee injuries.

You are a ing idiot. Don't speak on subjects that you obviously know NOTHING about.

[da_suns_fan]

You are a ing idiot. Don't speak on subjects that you obviously know NOTHING about.

Damn.....whos the chick in ur sig?

[ginobili's bald spot]

And Cuban is right BTW. Steroids are not dangerous when used properly. Contrary to what ridiculous media propaganda tries to tell people testosterone is a good thing not a bad thing. The problem is with people like "spursncowboys" who don't know jack about hormones and have ignorant beliefs like "steroids will just make you slower". WOW. Olympic sprinters are gonna be really pissed when they hear about this news!

The fact is that testosterone is what makes us men. It's a hormone we all have. It can make you bigger, faster, stronger, leaner or just have more energy and feel better. Those were all healthy things last time I checked. Why people chose to randomly villainize ONE of the hormones our body creates is a mystery to me. It's not illegal for any high school girl to go to the Doctor and get estrogen whenever the they want. It happens all the time, it's called birth control. Where is the outrage and congressional investigations about those "drug addicts"? People need to get off of their high horses and at least read a book before you form an opinion on the subject.

[da_suns_fan]

And Cuban is right BTW. Steroids are not dangerous when used properly. Contrary to what ridiculous media propaganda tries to tell people testosterone is a good thing not a bad thing. The problem is with people like "spursncowboys" who don't know jack about hormones and have ignorant beliefs like "steroids will just make you slower". WOW. Olympic sprinters are gonna be really pissed when they hear about this news!

The fact is that testosterone is what makes us men. It's a hormone we all have. It can make you bigger, faster, stronger, leaner or just have more energy and feel better. Those were all healthy things last time I checked. Why people chose to randomly villainize ONE of the hormones our body creates is a mystery to me. It's not illegal for any high school girl to go to the Doctor and get estrogen whenever the they want. It happens all the time, it's called birth control. Where is the outrage and congressional investigations about those "drug addicts"? People need to get off of their high horses and at least read a book before you form an opinion on the subject.

Yeah yeah great....so who's the chick in ur sig?

[cobbler]

Regardless of the arguments for or against limited use of steroids under a doctors supervision, allowing them would be inviting disaster. Injuries would be faked, doctors would skirt the rules to support thier athlete patient, and the system would be abused.

[da_suns_fan]

Regardless of the arguments for or against limited use of steroids under a doctors supervision, the abuse would occur. Injuries would be faked, doctors would skirt the rules to support thier athlete patient, and the system would be abused.

Yep. Even the idea of only having it be used for injury recovery, you have to expect players would milk "injuries" to get extra benefits from the roids.

Cuban obviously doesnt think too much before opening his mouth.

[Findog]

. Contrary to what ridiculous media propaganda tries to tell people testosterone is a good thing not a bad thing.

Well, if my body didn't produce so much of it naturally, I wouldn't be balding.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

It's a slippery slope. Even if they could create a steroid without the long term health effects I think introducing them for limited use would be inviting abuse of them. Even if the league did closely monitor it they could end up with the same credibility issue that baseball has now where a player can have a huge improvement and the first thought is no longer, "Wow, he must have busted his ass in the offseason," but "Dude's probably juicing and didn't get caught." They could end up with a situation where the moderate, measured solution brings all the backlash of completely opening the floodgates. In the end I think it has to be an all or nothing affair. Either keep them banned totally or turn the chemists loose on the league.

[hater]

cuban

[Culburn369]

Yep...cuz people would have reacted the same way if they KNEW Mark McGwire was breaking the home run record on steroids. Same with Barry Bonds. No one would have cared about the crazy amount of crap he was on! They wont care! Juice em all up!

And no one would have cared if Lance Armstrong was winning the Tour De France on steroids. Everyone already assumed it! Its not like it was a big deal when he tested posetive or anything!

EPIC. FAIL.

"They" knew....they/Media was justing hurrying before they/us knew. Though we knew. We was just hurrying before they/Media ratted us out.

tee, hee.

[Findog]

cuban

Great take

I bet you wish a "classy" guy like Ross Perot Jr. still owned the Mavs, right? Well guess what. It's 2009, not 1999. We pitch and you catch in this relationship now.

[hater]

Great take

I bet you wish a "classy" guy like Ross Perot Jr. still owned the Mavs, right? Well guess what. It's 2009, not 1999. We pitch and you catch in this relationship now.

cuban regardless

[Findog]

cuban regardless

Spurs fans would know a thing or two about getting ed at the hands of a Cuban-owned enterprise.

[Culburn369]

Spurs fans would know a thing or two about getting ed at the hands of a Cuban-owned enterprise.

Whoops-e-daisy!