If Duncan captures his fifth ring this year

[TDMVPDPOY]

Hey dude. I totally forgot about who we were talking about here. But the 02 Kings were far and away the best playoff team either the Spurs or Lakers played this year.

I could only imagine how bad the 86 Celtics would ram any Duncan led spur team you want to name.

02 kings were an overrated bunch who i think the failblazers 02 team wouldve defeated also had they met....

[FkLA]

Duncan is the only player on this list to never face a decent team in the finals.

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Who the has Kobe beat in the Finals? The 76ers one-man gang, the Pacers, the same Nets the Spurs faced in 03', and a Magic team who relies on 3 pointers? Give me a ing break, the 05' Pistons that destroyed your Fantastic Four Lakeshow the previous year are better than any team Shaq or Kobe have ever beat in the Finals.

And how the can u put Kobe ahead of Duncan based on les, when he was obviously second fiddle to Shaq in 00-03. Thats like saying Scottie has 6 les so he deserves to be in the TOP 10, nevermind the fact that he was second fiddle to MJ. Same with Shaq where he was second fiddle to DWade in 06'. Duncan has never and will never be second fiddle in San Antonio.

[Blackjack]

come on now, i am a huge duncan fan. but he is not ahead of bird. better than magic maybe, but Bird is better, way better scorer, just as good a rebounder, way better passer, better leader, more clutch, played in a tough era.

at using Ducan is a better rebounder. No , he plays pf/c, is 2-3 inches taller, and didn't have McHale and Parish taking up missed shots. You ing people are clueless. What's the argument for Duncan over Magic? He has a better post game or some irrelevant like that?

I really hope you're a troll and not the 'dimwitted' poster you've claimed others to be..

[Alonzo Harris]

Way to cherry pick dip .

[Blackjack]

Cherry pick what, exactly?

Maybe I should rephrase..

What exactly did I cherry pick, dip ?

[Blackjack]

Duncan was second fiddle to Parker in one of those les. The fact remains, les trump all, when there is a tie, you go with conference les and head to head battles. Your Pippen analogy was way off. Pippen never won one as the leader of a team, Kobe has owned the West for two straight seasons over Duncan, sans Daddy.

tee hee...

Duncan was the leader and MVP of the playoffs, they just happened to play an inferior team with a glaring weakness at the point.

Kobe could overtake Tim if he leads his team to a couple more les, but it's pretty ridiculous to say his resume is on par at this point.

tee hee...

[DrHouse]

Kobe's career is not even close to done yet. The man will most certainly walk away with more than 4 rings when all is said and done.

It's pointless to do these comparisons now.

[dbreiden83080]

I wouldn't put Timmy ahead of Magic.

I would Magic played with hall of famers left and right..

[FkLA]

Duncan was second fiddle to Parker in one of those les. The fact remains, les trump all, when there is a tie, you go with conference les and head to head battles. Your Pippen analogy was way off. Pippen never won one as the leader of a team, Kobe has owned the West for two straight seasons over Duncan, sans Daddy.

tee hee...

Parker won a Finals MVP, thats it. He was not the best player for the Spurs that season...like was stated the Cavs just happened to have a glaring weakness at PG. Besides Parker never has and never will have the overall impact on a game (offense and defense) that Tim does, which is why I also laugh at Spurs fans who suggest that this might be Tony's team now.

But even if we play along and say that Duncan was second fiddle that year, Tim still has 3 les as first fiddle over Kobe's 1. And the Pippen analogy works just fine, because youre counting Kobe's les as second fiddle so why cant I count Pip's when he was second fiddle? Tim has been the clear leader of more le teams this decade than Kobe or Shaq, up until this point he is undoubtedly our generations best player.

tee hee

[TDMVPDPOY]

I wonder if I could get away with this statement when comparing Shaq and Kobe. Kobe was the best player and go to guy on our team, but he doesn't get any credit for that because Shaq won 3 finals MVP's against weak centers.

trying to discredit shaq 3 finals mvps cause he played against weak centers? hahahahahaha kobe fans, so who did kobe go up against at his position in the finals? fkn and he didnt monopolize on it when he had the big man taking all the attention from opposing teams.

[FkLA]

Shaq dominated Mutombo, one of the best defensive players of all time...as well as a respectable 7-3 Rik Smits and in their 04' loss to the Pistons Shaq still put up the numbers against DPOY Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace. Kobe was the one that got treated like a by Tayshaun Prince that year.

To compare Shaq who had 1 MVP and 3 Finals MVPs from 00-03 to Tony Parker is moronic. Shaq was obviously the Lakers best player, Tony on the other hand simply exploited the opposing team's glaring weakness.

[Blackjack]

I wonder if I could get away with this statement when comparing Shaq and Kobe. Kobe was the best player and go to guy on our team, but he doesn't get any credit for that because Shaq won 3 finals MVP's against weak centers.

I don't have any problem giving Kobe credit, but to say he was el numero uno, the extent of Spanish I've picked up over the years, would be disingenuous at best; Shaq was the MVP for the entire playoffs, not just the Finals. Frankly, I'd like the league to award a playoff MVP instead of limiting it to the Finals.

Kobe's got a loaded team and some good years left, so he'll have his opportunities. But he ain't there yet and Duncan's still got a chance to do some work over the next 2-3 years.

[TDMVPDPOY]

kobe when given the opportunity to shine, he just didnt deliver...

04 finals against the pistons, wtf was that performance he put up...

the series against the suns up 3-1 and choking big time...cmon now.

oh i didnt also forget that last game against the celtics in the finals a 40pt drubbing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

sometimes with kobe, his negative performances sometimes outweigh his best performances, and yes we haters only focus the negatives of his game

[FkLA]

Kobe has already been crowned player of the decade by the sports writers. His current squad is better than his first squad that three-peated. At the end of the day, once Kobe is done his career will dwarf Shaqs and Duncans.

Yeah because sportswriters know all. And lmao at this squad being better than the 00' Lakers...Laker fan always trying to downplay Shaq's Lakers to make Kobe look good. Flashback-that 2000 team won 67 games and absolutely destroyed teams in the postseason whereas this Lakers team struggles against the likes of the Yaoless Rockets and a Denver team that constantly shoots themselves in the foot.

Duncan sucks ass at the free throw line as well, but he was always the first option. Kobe has been the best player in this league for the last 11 years.

Duncan is nowhere near as big of a liability as Shaq at the FT. Best player the last 11 yrs? Please. Are u talking about the same player that got treated like a in the 04' Finals? That didnt make the Playoffs in 05'? That quit on his team in the second half of a Game 7 in 06'? That got destroyed by the Celtics in 07'? Early part of this decade it was Shaq, middle part Timmy, and for the last two years or so it has been Kobe with Bron and Wade right on his heels.

[TDMVPDPOY]

you know whats next with kobe fans? trying to come up with bs to lower a compared players achievements down to the level of their favorite player

[TDMVPDPOY]

That's what they say about Duncan being a center playing power forward.

why dont you list the skilled big man for the last 10yrs at the c and pf position?

duncan went h2h with the best group of pfs this decade...
pf
webber
jermaine
dirk
brand
gasol
rasheed
kg

c
shaq
yao
d12
ben wallace

cmon now i wouldnt call the pfs of this decade as weak come ion duncan went h2h

[ezau]

Kobe's career is not even close to done yet. The man will most certainly walk away with more than 4 rings when all is said and done.

It's pointless to do these comparisons now.

Holy , you are alive

[senorglory]

Book it, and for me I think duncan is ahead of Kareem

I can't help but be impressed by Kareem's 22 years of playing. That's an amazing feat and speaks to the incredible effectiveness of his hook shoot. He also held his own against Bruce. Bruce Lee.

[Man In Black]

I can't help but be impressed by Kareem's 22 years of playing. That's an amazing feat and speaks to the incredible effectiveness of his hook shoot. He also held his own against Bruce. Bruce Lee.

I recall Kareem called Bruce,"Sifu". Who's the teacher? Bruce is. Kareem did not and has not held his own against Bruce except when Kareem was following both Bruce's script and fight choreography. The 22 years in the Association was amazing and it should be noted that Magic didn't win another ring without Cap. He got to the Finals with Divac but lost to Jordan's Bulls for ring #1.

[TIMMYD!]

Duncan has been ahead of Shaq and Kobe since 2007.

[jdev82]

See: Pistons 04
See: Missed playoffs throughout career
See: Whiny off court drama

More than just the celtics.

woop woop!
narmerguy holdin it down for the haters!
kobe yeah!

[Baseline]

I will be flamed for this, but for me kobe is allready ahead of shaq and duncan, he simpy is better player than both of these two.

Do you even watch basketball? That's the most idiotic comment I've ever read on this board.

Please be ashamed.