Seems like even that was a fake, according to Abe (guy who lost in the first ep)'s blog:Props to Zach.
I'm not sure if it was the way they edited the show but it was almost like we actually saw the lightbulb turn on for him; the guy showed a lot of heart and earned a lot of respect with the way he conducted himself during that fight.
http://news.fightmagazine.com/abe-wa...- ties-1912/
And Rashad's and Rampage's coaching can be summed up in two sentences:
Rashad's team - brings in Phil Nurse.
Rampage's team - brings in a cartoonist.
Page acts like a bully a lot, i think he is just messing around now because he has lost so many damn fights in a row. He really might go 0-8 here, it's that bad. The only reward at the end of the rainbow was going to be him and Rashad fighting, not that's off for now..
This is something I dislike about the way they run TUF. I think they should pick coaches based on how well they might actually coach, rather than who has an upcoming fight. When they bring in guys like Rampage or Shamrock, who have upcoming fights but are crappy coaches the guys on the show really get screwed. The first season was great because Randy and Chuck could coach decently. Jens and BJ both did well, as did o and Rich Franklin. Forrest did exceptionally well, but that might just have been because Rampage was his oppositionI wouldn't mind seeing Matt Hughes coach again, even if he is an egotistical asshat.
i agree with what you are saying Des but you know how it is with TUF. The show has taken on a life of it's own and it's now serving as like a 10 episode marketing tool for the big grudge match fight between the coaches. In spite of how lousy Page has done as a coach, i still like this season, it's just sucks ass that Page is off shooting this movie and because Dana and him are whining at eachother he is not fighting Rashad anytime soon.. They keep selling a grudge match for a fight that's off.. It sucks!!!!This is something I dislike about the way they run TUF. I think they should pick coaches based on how well they might actually coach, rather than who has an upcoming fight. When they bring in guys like Rampage or Shamrock, who have upcoming fights but are crappy coaches the guys on the show really get screwed. The first season was great because Randy and Chuck could coach decently. Jens and BJ both did well, as did o and Rich Franklin. Forrest did exceptionally well, but that might just have been because Rampage was his opposition
Yes, but what else can they do? The show was done long before Jackson quit. He screwed more people than just himself (and he did screw himself. He's going to lose a lot of money this way).
I know but the rumors are running that he and Dana are starting to talk it out, i expect this fight to be back on in a few months..
Speaking of which...
http://mma.fanhouse.com/2009/10/22/r...make-you-quit/
Great Episode.. where to start..
Zac should reconsider if fighting is right for him. Looked flat out terrible, im not sure why everyone is so hard on him though, maybe because hes so reserved to begin with. He looked really nervous before the fight. ties is a punk. I give him no credit for standing up to Rampage. He backed up and couldnt even look him in the face. He looked down every two seconds. And Rampage straight up called him out in front of everyone and he wouldnt step foward. I mean, the whole episode he says "lets spar" "i really wanted to hit him in the face", yet when page calls him out and tells him to step up, he backs down like a little . You know if Page had called Kimbo out, Kimbo would have walked right into rampage's face. ties is a pussy. He looked decent in the cage though, but Zac is a chode too so i wanna see him fight someone with a little more skill.
What the are you talking about? You really think ties wanted to throw with Rampage... he couldnt even look rampage in the face when he said he wanted to spar.
It occurred to me that any time you're in a closed environment, and your personality isn't pronounced and you always seem to be last to try everything or seem tentative with the training everyone else is doing...you open yourself up to teasing/bullying to break you because no one has ANY idea what the you're doing there. It doesn't help when he lacks aggression or skill during training sessions, so I think that's probably how he got singled out.
@ Abe's blog, I noticed the assistant to Rampage smiling when it looked like Zach was "doing good" but I didn't know it was conspiracy to go easy on him to get him confidence. That's a move for Abe to write that, since he didn't put up half the fight that Zach did. He just got his head busted and bled all over the damn place. Pussy.
Good post. I just dont see how a guy who said he wants to be a UFC champion some day has such a lack of confidence. i mean .. i have way more self confidence than Zac. I would never let people with me like that.It occurred to me that any time you're in a closed environment, and your personality isn't pronounced and you always seem to be last to try everything or seem tentative with the training everyone else is doing...you open yourself up to teasing/bullying to break you because no one has ANY idea what the you're doing there. It doesn't help when he lacks aggression or skill during training sessions, so I think that's probably how he got singled out.
@ Abe's blog, I noticed the assistant to Rampage smiling when it looked like Zach was "doing good" but I didn't know it was conspiracy to go easy on him to get him confidence. That's a move for Abe to write that, since he didn't put up half the fight that Zach did. He just got his head busted and bled all over the damn place. Pussy.
I love Rashads lame ass lines..
"Today is your bithday, your going to be born again into a UFC fighter" or something
Rashad isn't psyching himself up, he's expressing his beliefs that Rampage doesn't care about the TUF process. Rashad always reps his team's colors and gear, but Rampage walks around casually and acts like the pro in the room that can't offer anything but lame "advice" to his guys. Rampage said his fighters quit, that's not very nice even if it's true.
Rashad could mimick Rampage's style and beat him at his own game. It's a good thing Rampage is making movies, cuz I don't think he could emotionally handle being embarrassed in the cage.
I agree about Page's emotional state being all over the place but, IMO Rashad is a completely mediocre fighter. He's had a few big fights in his career.
o Ortiz- Got a draw, in a fight he was outwreslted and out-struck ( o's striking is mediocre) he got a draw mainly because o lost a pt for grabbing the fence in round 2.
Mike Bisping- SD win, unimpressive on the feet and on the ground, very boring fight all the way around.. We saw what an elite striker/wrestler did with Bisping at UFC 100..
Chuck Liddell- first real sign that Chuck was old and out of his prime, he lost RD 1 easily and then threw a hail mary haymaker that landed right on the button..
Forrest Griffin- Typical Rashad fashion, slow starter, loses the first 2 rounds easily and then caught Forrest and finished, again i was not impressed by him at all here..
Machida- Got nothing done on the feet whatsoever, Machida got his timing and then blasted his butt visciouly knocking him out..
I never saw him beating Page at any game at all. I always thought it was an easy KO for Page. Rashad starts slow like always and gets blasted on the feet..
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Too bad there's no timetable on when the two will fight so we can settle this. Your points are fair enough, but going into any of those example fights you could say "not impressive, he won't win" yet he found a way to win. Maybe it's a gameplan? Maybe it's luck? But the man is a winner, or was a winner until Machida dropped him. Rampage is a whiner.
Good Stuff, did you make picks for tonight??
Exactly one month ago from today
Good Stuff, did you make picks for tonight??But I'm updating since for some reason I didn't pick anyone in the Joe Daddy fight. Gotta love TUF guys fighting for survival after hitting a rough patch.
why was this fight hyped so much by e? it was pathetic to see two men with a combined 11 fights in pro mma to be gassed by the 3rd minute in the first round.
For sure, Rashad is gonna get smoked when this fight happens and it will happen once Page gets back from this little Hollywood vacation. Rashad is either one delusional dude, or playing to the cameras, because he acts like he's 100-0 with 100 KO's.. I like when he said to Page, "You been KO'd more than me" LOL he's fought twice as many fights against better fighters. These guys are basically the same age, Page was banging with the big boys in Japan when Rashad was probably working night security at Home Depot for a living..
Gotta agree i mean it had it's moments but at the end of the day it was 2 guys, who aren't anything special fighting a sloppy tired fight for 10 min..
I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that the matches are only 2 rounds. Could they use work on conditioning? yes. But I don't hold it against them for throwing everything out there in the first round. I'd try to kill the other guy in the first round, and if I can't I'll just hold on for life in the second round hoping I did enough damage in the first.
They each took a few good punches to the head and stayed in the game. Matt won, Scott...well, in the totally opposite words of Denny Green..."[Scott Junk] is not who we thought we was."
Will Marcus end the sweep? I say yes.
PS: Rashad being a former compe or, and winner, of TUF means he has a much greater respect for the TUF process than Rampage and he doesn't like how he's disrespecting the process by not coaching and being there for his fighters. Rashad is setting the example, and he will make Rampage an example if they ever get in the ring together.
Marcus is a power-house with a huge size edge in this fight, i'll be shocked if he loses it..
He has respect for the process of TUF, but he is also playing it up for the cameras. The talk and ego form him considering Machida beat the stuffing out of him like 2 weeks before they started taping the show is running real thin with me. I don't think he has anything for Page at all, he'll be KO'd it won't go 3 rds..PS: Rashad being a former compe or, and winner, of TUF means he has a much greater respect for the TUF process than Rampage and he doesn't like how he's disrespecting the process by not coaching and being there for his fighters. Rashad is setting the example, and he will make Rampage an example if they ever get in the ring together.
That is all I am seeing this season is fighters getting tired quick...I hate Brock as much as the next guy but I don't see any of these guys lasting 1min. with him.
I wonder if this door is made out of the same material as the one Brock broke off its hinges or the one MJ breaks through in the "Thriller" video
The best part was when page kicked this door and saw it is a weak opponent, the he let one punch go in and went for the kill! there was no ref so he decided to headbutt the door and rip it spreading all over the place.
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