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    Nope, and he wasn't in Cleveland either. He needed injuries to get him there
    Ok there we go.

    LeBron has one all-star player, a guy who will be 38 by the time the playoffs roll around.

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    Referring to JJ if you heard in talk and even play you could easily see LeBron has rubbed off on him. JJ is constantly referring to LeBron as the guy that showed him the way to become a professional basketball player.

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    What does that prove?
    That Pau and Lamar are a uva lot tougher than they were before. If you rememeber in 2008; the Lakers were manhandled by the Celtics both in the Regular season and the Playoffs.

    Problems like that translate into the post-season.

    Alot of people say "the regular season doesn't matter" but last season was proof positive that matchup isues don't just go away once the Playoffs begin. The same regular season issues held true throughout the Playoffs.

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    That Pau and Lamar are a uva lot tougher than they were before. If you rememeber in 2008; the Lakers were manhandled by the Celtics both in the Regular season and the Playoffs.

    Problems like that translate into the post-season.

    Alot of people say "the regular season doesn't matter" but last season was proof positive that matchup isues don't just go away once the Playoffs begin. The same regular season issues held true throughout the Playoffs.

    So having a deep playoff run and finals experience under their belt has nothing to do with it? It's a sure thing Kobe Bryant is what supposedly made them tougher players?

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    I think LeBron needs to do less actually. LeBron tries to do too much and when it's time for the other guys to step up, they freeze up.

    During the Playoffs; the only hero was LeBron.

    But if you look at the Lakers Playoff series, it was guys like Fisher (Magic), Lamar (Jazz), Shannon Brown (Nuggets), Ariza (Nugz/Magic).

    LeBron's going through the same thing Kobe went through a few years ago; when he learns how to pick his spots and motivate his teammates, he'll be a complete player.
    A few years ago LeBron was doing the things Kobe is doing now.

    See Damon Jones game winner. Daniel Gibson ECF game 6 performance.

    Mo had a shot at being the hero and missed his tough chance in game one.

    Edit* Delonte West 3 pt game winner against the Wizards.

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    So having a deep playoff run and finals experience under their belt has nothing to do with it? It's a sure thing Kobe Bryant is what supposedly made them tougher players?
    Absolutely. Teams like San Antonio have multiple playoff runs and experience under their belt yet fail to repeat.

    Having the experience just isn't good enough, you have to have the mentality and that comes from your leader.

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    Having the experience just isn't good enough, you have to have the mentality and that comes from your leader.

    The same mentality that blew a 3-1 series lead.

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    A few years ago LeBron was doing the things Kobe is doing now.

    See Damon Jones game winner. Daniel Gibson ECF game 6 performance.

    Mo had a shot at being the hero and missed his tough chance in game one.
    It wasn't just one win or two; it was the entire series. Everybody expected LeBron to bail them out and weren't ready to step up. And he did a great job but I think he tried to do too much; much like Kobe used to.

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    The same mentality that blew a 3-1 series lead.

    But you wouldn't know anything about that seeing as how you were a Spurs fan in 2006.

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    The same mentality that blew a 3-1 series lead.
    Kobe's learned that less is more. People say he's lost a step, but the reality is he's gotten wiser. If Kobe wanted to average 30 points this year, he could. But he won't.

    Today's Kobe is a complete player whereas young Kobe was a ballhog who tried to do too much. That's where the distinction between being a great individual player and being a Great player who makes his teammates better.

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    Today's Kobe is a complete player whereas young Kobe was a ballhog who tried to do too much. That's where the distinction between being a great individual player and being a Great player who makes his teammates better.

    I never said he didn't make his teammates better. If you think he didn't make his teammates better in 2006 then you're re ed.

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    I never said he didn't make his teammates better. If you think he didn't make his teammates better in 2006 then you're re ed.
    I think he made his teammates better but he still tried to do too much.

    Of course LeBron makes his teammates better; but he is also still trying to do too much.

    That's the difference between Kobe and LeBron right now. Kobe's learned that less is more while LeBron is still willing his team to victory.

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    I think he made his teammates better but he still tried to do too much.

    Of course LeBron makes his teammates better; but he is also still trying to do too much.

    As long as you acknowledge it.

    And what exactly was he supposed to do differently against Orlando?

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    And what exactly was he supposed to do differently against Orlando?
    Stay out of the side door at crunch time.

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    Stay out of the side door at crunch time.

    Was that shot he hit during game 2 "staying out of the back door"?

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    Was that shot he hit during game 2 "staying out of the back door"?
    But, ultimately James failed, DUNCAN. When Kobe fails he is held to accounts, and rightfully so. When James fails he too will be held to account on this Forum.

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    But, ultimately James failed, DUNCAN. When Kobe fails he is held to accounts, and rightfully so. When James fails he too will be held to account on this Forum.

    If Kobe had the supporting cast Lebron had, would the results against Orlando be any different?

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    As long as you acknowledge it.

    And what exactly was he supposed to do differently against Orlando?
    This is a season long building process, I knew last year the Cavs wern't going to win it and I said as much. Nothing he could have done better in Orlando.

    LeBron has to take a back seat to his guys and build their confidence from Day 1 of training camp.

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    If Kobe had the supporting cast Lebron had, would the results against Orlando be any different?
    No. James failed and no amount of "Ifs" is gonna get him off the hook. Until he rings, he's fair game, DUNCAN, and I'm gonna ride that f'k on this Forum good & proper.

    And that is just the way its gonna be.

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    This is a season long building process, I knew last year the Cavs wern't going to win it and I said as much. Nothing he could have done better in Orlando.

    LeBron has to take a back seat to his guys and build their confidence from Day 1 of training camp.
    LeBron doesn't give his team mates confidence? BS

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    LeBron doesn't give his team mates confidence? BS
    Even Cleveland fans often say LeBron tries to do too much.

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    LeBron doesn't give his team mates confidence? BS

    Keep in mind this is coming from a person who says Anthony Randolph has hit his ceiling as a player.

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    Keep in mind this is coming from a person who says Anthony Randolph has hit his ceiling as a player.
    Still holding true so far.

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    Even Cleveland fans often say LeBron tries to do too much.
    Is this in regard to the isolation offense?

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    Is this in regard to the isolation offense?
    Not the isolation offense, that's a coaching thing. Rather, it's in regard to him shooting contested 3 pointers or going 1 on 5.

    We know he can go 1 on 5, but it's not necessary.

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