SLAM: Top 50: LeBron James, no. 1

[Culburn369]

Why do Boards/Forums/Fandoms put an ounce of stock in All Star Games? I don't understand it. It's a political process via the fans voting, or, the coaches choosing. Fellows, please, I beseech you:::act like somebody! I'm embarrassed for ya's.

[Culburn369]

Duncan is my boy, so I wouldn't. I'd trade the rest of the team for him and run with d-leaguers, though.

Honest answer. I didn't think you would. Duncan, unlike James does not leak.

[Culburn369]

The Magic presented matchup problems that centered around Howard. Had little to do with Hedo. Hedo worked James over pretty good, Damus. James wanted it handed to him, and the Magic refused to go along. He wanted to get to the Finals and Kobe, but, didn't want to pay the price. Kinda like Favre wants to get to the Super Bowl but won't go to training camp.

Answer me 2 things:
1) How many games did the Cavaliers lose in the playoffs before they were matched up with the Magic? I don't know. I don't keep track of such minutia.
2) Who was guarding Howard for the Lakers? And who was guarding Howard for the Cavs? Yeah, and the Lakers watched film of Howard and concocted that strategy. The Cavs tried to take everything away from Howard and in their comprehensive foolishness they stopped nothing.

[cobbler]

You've gotta be ing kidding me. Someone paste the numbers LeBron put up in that series for this child.

You mean like the numbers kobe had in 06 & 07 when everyone was saying WOW look at those numbers but he doesn't make his teamates better? Sometimes lees is more...

[Culburn369]

You mean like the numbers kobe had in 06 & 07 when everyone was saying WOW look at those numbers but he doesn't make his teamates better?

& then they proceeded to frog march Bryant to the tree of woe & crucified him.

[Culburn369]

What I really like about those stats I just pasted are the assist to turnover ratios for Kobe Bryant! Brilliant!

But, they both lost, Damus. Bryant was scorned whilst James gets a free ride (so far).

[wanggi]

Whatever you said, Coldbee is still a Colorado Rapist.
And you, Cubby, still a fake 15-time NBA World champion.

[Culburn369]

That couldn't have had anything to do with James putting up some of the best numbers of all-time, making one of the biggest shots most people have ever seen, and a clear matchup problem with Howard -- in which he had absolutely no fault in.

And also, the big key here is... Kobe was OUT IN THE FIRST ROUND. James was in the ECF.

**I'll get to you in a second, wangi...

I don't want to hear that "James was in the ECF"....uh, uh, we ain't doin' that here. The mark is winning the NBA Finals. That's it. That's been the mark for many, many moons. James failed, just like Bryant.
But, James gets a soft seat. Just not on this Forum.

[Culburn369]

And you, Cubby, still a 15-time NBA World champion.

Thanks, wangi.

[JoeTait75]

For the love of Pete, James couldn't even stay in front of Hedo!

LeBron didn't even guard Hedo in the series. Delonte West did.

[Culburn369]

LeBron didn't even guard Hedo in the series. Delonte West did.

Not every possession, no, but, James guarded him frequently, and many times he could not stay in front of Hedo. Hedo worked him over like a $3 .

[JoeTait75]

Not every possession, no, but, James guarded him frequently, and many times he could not stay in front of Hedo. Hedo worked him over like a $3 .

That's not true. He did not guard him frequently. Delonte guarded him the lion's share of the series, and when Delonte wasn't guarding him, Sasha Pavlovic was.

LeBron spent most of the series shadowing Rafer Alston, a Mike Brown strategy that was rendered bankrupt over the course of the series, yet was never really altered. Hedo hit the go-ahead shot in Game 2 over Pavlovic.

Believe me, I would have loved to have seen LeBron on Hedo more.

You want to criticize LeBron legitimately, I'm all ears. I know his game has holes. But this one isn't legit.

[Culburn369]

That's not true. He did not guard him frequently.

Yes, it is true.

[JoeTait75]

Yes, it is true.

No, it is not. Delonte and Pavlovic were on Hedo.

[Culburn369]

No, it is not. Delonte and Pavlovic were on Hedo.

Yer incapable of objectivity. I saw it. I ain't blind.

[JamStone]

Lol. For the vast majority of the games and, more importantly, on important late game possessions, LeBron was NOT defending Hedo Turkoglu in the Cleveland- Orlando series last year.

It doesn't take objectivity for that. That's fact.

[21_Blessings]

When Lebron switched over to guard Hedo off a pick, Hedo pretty much did what he wanted. That's why we didn't see Lebron demanding he guard Hedo in the clutch. He knows he wasn't able too and loves his precious highlight weak-side shot blocks.

Kobe always has and remains a superior man defender than Lebron.

Lebron still has a laughable post game and mid-range jumper. Once that athleticism of his starts to go he will decline much more significantly than Jordan or Kobe.

But hey, Lebron can take that worthless Slamonline recognition and the media voted MVP and Kobe will take that 5th ring and another finals MVP.

At the end of the day, Kobe will retire with more championships than Lebron James.

[Culburn369]

Lol. For the vast majority of the games and, more importantly, on important late game possessions, LeBron was NOT defending Hedo Turkoglu in the Cleveland- Orlando series last year.

It doesn't take objectivity for that. That's fact.

Yes, Hedo did guard James in that series and handed James his ass for close order inspection.

[JamStone]

If Kobe ended his career today, does Scottie Pippen go down as the better player?

[Culburn369]

If Kobe ended his career today, does Scottie Pippen go down as the better player?

Toni Kukoc notwithstanding.

tee, hee.

[21_Blessings]

So will Robert Horry. I guess that makes him better.

Congratulations, you know how to use a strawman!

We're talking about transcendental players here, not roleplayers.

[Allanon]

Good answer when you can't come up with anything.

[Allanon]

But that isn't the point. Because Kobe was out in the first round. , one year, he didn't even MAKE the playoffs.

There is absolutely no argument for Kobe being the best player in the league. LeBron does more with less, and his numbers absolutely obliterate Kobe's.

You are making my point for me right there.

"LeBron does more with less." Absolutely, LeBron dominates games night in and night out. LeBron had like 4 All-Stars with him last year but got bounced against the Magic in the ECF. That's because LeBron still thinks he has less even when he has talent around him.

Outside of LeBron, did anybody make any game-winning plays in the ECF last year?

On the other hand, guys like Shannon Brown (yes, he was LeBron's teammate before), Trevor Ariza and Fish all saved the day for the Lakers. These aren't All-Stars, they're role players doing their job.

Shannon Brown, playing with LeBron got his ass traded to the Bobcats
Shannon Brown, playing with Kobe, just got a 2 year extension

Kobe gets the most out of his guys where LeBron will still try to do it all...and that's why Kobe makes his teammates better and LeBron does not.

[23LeBronJames23]

Yer incapable of objectivity. I saw it. I ain't blind.

Go to google images and search "Hedo Turkoglu vs Cavs playoffs"
Look thru couple of pages and tell me how many times u saw LeBron guarding Hedo and how many times u saw Delonte west.

i saw like 1 pic lebron guarding hedo but lebron was just behind him. and i saw like 7 pics with delonte guarding hedo

[JustBlaze]

#1 muthaf*ckas, #1!