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    Unfortunate to hear.

    Unfortunate that he got injured during the summer.

    Unfortunate that the Spurs can't continue investing on him.
    It's funny how big people's blind spots can be. You call Bogans unathletic, when in reality MW is probably the worst athlete not named Tim Duncan to grace a Spurs camp in a decade.

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    down to 15..

    Hairston vs. the $$$..
    I think they would have waived both of them at the same time if this was the case. Hairston will be on the team opening day.

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    I think they would have waived both of them at the same time if this was the case. Hairston will be on the team opening day.

    I asked Bruno about this in another thread. Hairston's 50K guarantee covers him thru Nov 3 at which point he costs about 9K a day in salary and tax to keep.

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    It is pretty obvious MW does not have the tools to succeed in the NBA. When you are really not athletic, you must be overly skilled. MW is not, so it is too hard for him.

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    I think they would have waived both of them at the same time if this was the case. Hairston will be on the team opening day.
    No, there was a deadline to get to 15. They were forced to make at least one cut today. There is no deadline to get to 14.

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    It makes no sense to cut Malik right now. They can keep him a few more days and get him some minutes hopefully against real NBA talent and then make a decision.

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    I hope this turns into good news for Hairston. He could be a nice spark plug for us.

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    I asked Bruno about this in another thread. Hairston's 50K guarantee covers him thru Nov 3 at which point he costs about 9K a day in salary and tax to keep.
    Hmm. If that's correct, that amounts to nearly 2M for the season. Doesn't seem right if his deal is for little over $700K this year. What am I misunderstanding?

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    That makes a lot of sense now, I didn't know about the 9k daily..looks like Hairston is still going to be under the microscope for the first few..

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    Hmm. If that's correct, that amounts to nearly 2M for the season. Doesn't seem right if his deal is for little over $700K this year. What am I misunderstanding?
    double for the luxury tax, and I'm guessing other stuff..

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    I asked Bruno about this in another thread. Hairston's 50K guarantee covers him thru Nov 3 at which point he costs about 9K a day in salary and tax to keep.
    Ahh...ok. Thanks for the clarification. I still like his chances though.

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    Hmm. If that's correct, that amounts to nearly 2M for the season. Doesn't seem right if his deal is for little over $700K this year. What am I misunderstanding?
    The 50K actually pays him thru Nov 5, but he would have to be waived by Nov 3. Bruno did all the math, and he is invariably right on such matters.

    And even though his salary is 736K, the minimum lux tax for any player is 825K this year.

    Oh, and the clock starts ticking on the date of the first NBA game, not the first Spurs game.
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    Spurs cut Williams; down to 15-man limit
    By Mike Monroe

    Marcus Williams probably knew "The Turk" was lurking at Spurs practice on Sunday. He hadn't played a minute in the team's last two preseason games, while Malik Hairston, the only other player in camp without a guaranteed contract, had logged productive court time in games Gregg Popovich had declared would begin to resemble regular season tests in terms of player rotations.

    Sensing a cut might be coming didn't make acceptance of reality any easier after Popovich delivered the news after Sunday's workout.

    Williams, an affable guard-forward from Arizona, found a far corner at the team's practice facility and sat, all alone, trying hard to maintain his composure.

    Finally, Michael Finley, the team's oldest player and a role model for Williams' game, came out of the locker room and did his best to console him.

    Cutting Williams got the Spurs down to the NBA's 15-player roster limit one day ahead of the cutdown deadline.

    The 33rd selection of the 2007 draft, out of University of Arizona, Williams averaged 4.2 points, 1.6 assists and 1.8 rebounds in five pre-season game.

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    I know it has to be done, but I don't envy the people who are telling guys like MW that he has been cut.

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    I know it has to be done, but I don't envy the people who are telling guys like MW that he has been cut.
    Indeed. It's easy for posters on an internet forum to say, "He sucks, cut his ass" but the reality is much harder. This the guys life and dreams we are talking about here. He spent a whole year in the D-League busting his ass to get to this point.

    Good luck, MW. Hopefully you find a home.

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    Go make bank in Europe. That's what's important.

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    Kids done everything Spurs have asked him to do, busted his ass to improve, had a great, mature at ude and has taken nothing but on Spurstalk from most posters, like they've worked a tenth as hard at anything in their lives. Pretty ed up. Good luck to Williams and hopefully he reaches his dream. Meantime maybe it's time to try to go to Europe and make some cash.
    I'm in the army and deployed to Iraq a couple times. Speak for yourself. He hasn't worked for . He's playing a game, grow up.

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    I can't say I'll miss him or say that I'll regret not having him on our team. Good luck, Marcus

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    I'm in the army and deployed to Iraq a couple times. Speak for yourself. He hasn't worked for . He's playing a game, grow up.
    Deployed or not if you were saying "cut his ass, he's worthless' you're a dip .

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    Who was the better player? Marcus Williams or Malik Hairston?

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    I'm in the army and deployed to Iraq a couple times. Speak for yourself. He hasn't worked for . He's playing a game, grow up.
    So no professional athlete can possibly work hard?

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    Who was the better player? Marcus Williams or Malik Hairston?
    It's actually pretty close. I would say that Williams is more talented than Hairston but his lack of an NBA body was his undoing.

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    Who was the better player? Marcus Williams or Malik Hairston?
    Hairston.

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    I know it has to be done, but I don't envy the people who are telling guys like MW that he has been cut.
    Avery Johnson could be of some encouragement to Marcus.

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    First, best of luck to Marcus.

    Second, it's a damn good news for Hairston. He can still be waived before January when his contract become guaranteed but he has crossed a big hurdle. It will be interesting to see if Pop goes with him or goes with Bogans to play some minutes behind Manu, RJ, Mason and Finley.

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