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Nah. We're a damn good team...and Wednesday can't get here quick enough.
So now we suck again?
Relax. The season hasn't even started yet.
Nah. We're a damn good team...and Wednesday can't get here quick enough.
Why is this still being discussed? This trade will NEVER EVER happen. Go to any Indy board and you will be laughed out of town. I've stated repeatedly this will never ever happen and yet some people are talking as if this is a viable option. People need to pay more attention to the NBA as a whole.
This could easily happen, what are you talking about?..
They would be getting Foster off the books a year early..Foster is loved in Indiana and by the organization, so it makes sense that they would want him to win a ring, and not rot away on a rebuilding team..Roy Hibbert has looked very good so far in preseason, and this would open up even more playing time for him..
In the end, the Spurs organisation would not do it. It does not make sense to clog the lane with old guys like Dice, Duncan, Foster, Ratliff. Reportedly, the Spurs would like to bring Splitter over next off-season with the MLE.
Seriously, go to a Indy forum. Go to Indy and ask fans on the street. If management wouldn't trade a newly extended Foster for an expiring Klezia and a 1st round pick, they will somehow agree to this deal?
Newly extended? Try October of 2008.
Things have changed over the past year. The forecast for the cap and the tax like is pretty bleak. Fans opinions matter little when you start talking about millions of dollars flying out the window. Foster is then only attractive trade piece they have. No team wants anything to do with Murphy's or Dunleavy's horrible contracts.
So who will they move to avoid the tax? Murphy? Ford? Good luck getting somebody to take whatever is left wearing Dunleavy's uniform. I think everyone here understands how popular Foster is in Indy, but fan favorite community guys get traded all the time. Ask San Antonio fans how it felt in 2005 when Malik Rose was dealt.
Actually, Indy fans on RealGM had a lot of discussions about moving Foster early in July, and a number of them mentioned the Spurs as a possible suitor due to our expiring contracts, and Foster's apparent interest to possibly play in San Antonio..
In this situation,I don't think popovich will trade Bonner & Finley for Jeff Foster,because they both did well in the preseasons.
Murphy has value for some teams, and yes, newly extended when referring to the trade offer from Denver. If Indy was so worried about spending money, why would they sign Dahtany Jones to a terrible contract this season, and move to sign other players too? Also, please do your research. I was unaware that you guys thought that Indy would be in luxury tax danger this year- that is false.
HH37: Being from RealGM, you probably talked to people like DGrangerx33 who is known to ignore fan opinion- he believes that Jim O'Brien isn't a popular coach (he's moderately popular) and yes- you will see knowledgeable, hardcore NBA Indy fans take that deal because of expirings- but management won't- given the past evidence and how badly they want to regain fan support. Indy faces a loss of significant fan base if Foster is traded, and with how small their base was to begin with, they cannot take that risk. The Spurs could with Rose because they don't face the same risk.
Can this thread die already I think every possible angle has been explained in not only this thread, but two others as well.
Just an opinion. Carry on.
Not this year, next year. The easiest time to move one of their larger contracts will be to trade for expirings at this year's trade deadline.
Um...I must be missing something, no they are not next year.
EDIT: Sorry- I cannot say that for a fact- if Lux tax drops by over 2-3 million then yes they are in danger.
Thank you Mel...this is what I was referring to when I said they would be in danger of going into tax territory.
I find it highly unlikely that they will be in danger of going into tax territory next year...
They've got nearly 66M committed plus the cap hold for a first rounder. The lux tax line could easily be several million dollars lower than this year's figure. It's at least even money they'll need to move a contract to stay under the line.
Anyway, we can't settle anything here. The economy at large, and the Pacers' fortunes in particular will tell the tale.
The only point some of here are making is that it is far from absurd to think that Indy might move Foster.
No...Murphy does not have value right now. His deal has 23 million left on it and teams that have expiring deals are not going to give them up for him because they are looking forward to 2010. And how is Dahntay Jones contract terrible? They player option for the 4th year is something I wouldn't have done but 2.5 million a year is still far from crippling financially.
in a heartbeat.
yeah, foster may not be all that, but more muscle down low to give TD and McDyess more rest for the playoffs sounds good to me.
mahinmi is made of glass and as good as Blair might be, lets let him be a rookie and not put too much championship or bust pressure on his shoulders...
If Bonner is going to disappear in may anyway, might as well assist him on his way out as soon as there is a taker. If fin is getting any meaningful minutes in the playoffs, then somethings gone horribly wrong...
and Tpark would have his jersey before Foster's plane landed...
Mel: I have the number lower than that, but we could be using different sites. Bene: Murphy is a top 3 rebounder in the league and is one of the best perimeter fours in the game-he has more value than you say he does. No one else was even close in giving Jones that much money and they've been giving him 2.5 million for a player who played 18mpg and is almost past their prime, and has no shot?
Sham's the man. Best contract numbers available anywhere outside of the league offices.
Indiana's page:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ies/pacers.jsp
Right. I highly doubt that Foster is worth $6 mil per to the Pacers at the gate. Bonner would give Pacers fans another Caucasian to fall in love with. Judging by how Northside is hugging him that wouldn't take too long.
http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009...avericks-spurs
Damn. Bonner sucks hard. I mean really. Spurs fans have such short homerific memories.
Ah, I was using storyteller- I figured you were using sham.
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