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    I started one on God and had some very good thoughts arise from it.
    So I thought, what are thoughts on the Death Penalty?
    We dont have it anywhere in Australia although there are some cases where I wish it could be used but anyway
    What are your thoughts?

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    In cases where there's no doubt a person is guilty of murder then I'm for it. I also think family members of victims should have a say in whether a perpetrator lives or dies.

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    yeah we had a case here where i man shot 37 people and was definitely him... he should be dead in my opinion. but there can be no doubt

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    For every inarguably guilty one, there's probably one that isn't guilty because the justice system (police, prosecutors, judges, lawyers, experts, forensic labs) is too often corrupt and/or incompetent.

    Err on the side of caution, no death penalty.

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    No.

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    Nay.

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    Romans 12:19

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    I had an uncle that was killed in his driveway for a bag of receipts and a cousin that was killed just sitting on another family members couch watching a Spurs game. Neither one was involved in any kind of gang or drug stuff, in fact my cousin had just moved back from Indiana.
    So am I all for the death penalty? YES! They should fry those bas s. The excuse that both groups made was "I made a mistake"! A MISTAKE?!

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    Quickly followed by Romans 13:1-4.

    "Let every person be subject to governing authority...for it is God’s servant for your good. But if you do what is wrong, you should be afraid, for the authority does not bear the sword in vain! It is the servant of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer."

    Context.

    So, taken together, the lesson is this:

    Don't take personal vengeance, that's God's job and He has ins uted governing authorities to mete out justice.

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    Sure. I know where I stand.

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    In theory, yes. In practice, no, because overzealous police and prosecutors convict the innocent a little bit too often.

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    I say yes. At least in cases where there is absolutely no doubt (witnesses, confession, guy is a genuine whacko, whatever).

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    I am fundamentally opposed to the death penalty for a variety of reasons, the primary among them being my continuing doubt that every criminal conviction is factually correct (i.e., the accused is actually the person who committed the crime), no matter the procedural safeguards that might exist to suggest otherwise. The fact of recent stories suggesting (or demonstrating) that not all convictions can be substantiated only fuels my belief in an anti-capital punishment position. A mistaken conviction can be undone, even at some cost to the falsely imprisoned individual, if the accused remains in prison; executing an accused who is later shown to have been innocent is among the most heinous things our society can do. If it's happened once, it's happened too often.

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    That's nicely put, FWD.

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    I am for it but only because I like my freedom and Chuy gets out in a couple of years.

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    ethically, yay

    economically, nay

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    I am fundamentally opposed to the death penalty for a variety of reasons, the primary among them being my continuing doubt that every criminal conviction is factually correct (i.e., the accused is actually the person who committed the crime), no matter the procedural safeguards that might exist to suggest otherwise. The fact of recent stories suggesting (or demonstrating) that not all convictions can be substantiated only fuels my belief in an anti-capital punishment position. A mistaken conviction can be undone, even at some cost to the falsely imprisoned individual, if the accused remains in prison; executing an accused who is later shown to have been innocent is among the most heinous things our society can do. If it's happened once, it's happened too often.
    I think allowing a person, known to be an unrepentant risk to society, to continue having the opportunity to kill again, and who then does so (whether in prison or after release or escape), is one of the most heinous things our society can do.

    Between these two opinions lies the answer and, personally, I think it includes capital punishment.

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    Yay

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    Oh fo shur.....anybody that harms a child should be eviscerated with a rusty tin can. serial murderers, sadists, oh yeah, you put mad dogs down.

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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    I think allowing a person, known to be an unrepentant risk to society, to continue having the opportunity to kill again, and who then does so (whether in prison or after release or escape), is one of the most heinous things our society can do.

    Between these two opinions lies the answer and, personally, I think it includes capital punishment.
    Nice bit of sophistry there. Projecting an extreme counter-position nobody else suggested in the first place in order to make your position the moderate "in-between answer".

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    we have people here that want to kill men, women, and children crossing the border.

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    I don't really care... Yonivore's Avatar
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    Nice bit of sophistry there. Projecting an extreme counter-position in order to make your position the moderate "in-between answer".
    I think more people are killed by persons that should have been executed than there are people that are executed that shouldn't have been.

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    I think more people are killed by persons that should have been executed than there are people that are executed that shouldn't have been.
    since you want to play the numbers game........show us the numbers.

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    "Have to check the film" PixelPusher's Avatar
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    I think more people are killed by persons that should have been executed than there are people that are executed that shouldn't have been.
    Setting aside your feelings based statistics, that make the "in-between" answer life in prison, not executions.

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