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I honestly think your just trolling. Nobody could possibly believe what you are saying.
I honestly think your just trolling. Nobody could possibly believe what you are saying.
I dunno. The Lakers could have had 2 for the price of 1.
I honestly think your just trolling. Nobody could possibly believe what you are saying.
Top 5 West Center in Marc Gasol + another $13 million Player > Pau Gasol. Pretty compelling to me.
Odom has never proven to be that guy on a consistent basis, and he's never had the skillset. He's looking aggressive so far, but who knows how long that will last? In fact, who knows if he's even motivated as a Laker if Pau doesn't join the team?
Wasn't that tonight's starting lineup?
There's no doubt that Marc's a good player, but I'm unsure how two years from now has any bearing on the Lakers' ability to win a championship last year. He's very different from his brother and, in my opinion, isn't nearly as good a fit.
Only if they wanted to go back over the luxury tax limit. Not an insane suggestion since they're about 20 million over it now if I remember correctly.
Okay two posts ago when the Lakers were 4 million under the lux tax, you were thinking about a 10 million a year player. Now it's 13? Did you get Odom to re-sign for the minimum too in this dream scenario?
I actually think Allanon has a really good point. I don't understand how you can deny the logic.
I honestly think your just trolling. Nobody could possibly believe what you are saying.
This is a misconception about Odom. Odom's averaged a very consisten 15ppg in 10 years in the league. He's pretty much the same as he's always been. People call him inconsistent because he doesn't live up to his All-Star potential; that doesn't mean he hasn't always been very good...just not an All-Star which he should be with his talent.
He isn't as good a fit as Marc but that's where Odom would have filled in. Marc would have been terrorizing bench centers. The thing is with Marc, they would have been able to afford another $13 million player. With Marc + $13 million player, I think they still would have romped through last year's weak Playoff compe ion.There's no doubt that Marc's a good player, but I'm unsure how two years from now has any bearing on the Lakers' ability to win a championship last year. He's very different from his brother and, in my opinion, isn't nearly as good a fit.
Marc Gasol + $13 million player I think would have been more than enough help for the Lakers to have won the championship last year and for many years to come since Marc is a much younger investment.
I mean...Pau Gasol is the PERFECT PLAYER...THE PERFECT 4 for the triangle....how could I describe it
Its like my with Jessica Alba. its a perfect fit. nothing better. that is pau gasol
marc gasol? its like getting head from khloe - yes its head and its nice but damn...id rather take alba...
agreed?
WHO IS THIS 13 MILLION DOLLAR PLAYER????
What free agent?
No, I'm thinking about the gap in payroll if the Lakers didn't take on Pau's salary. Pau makes $16 million a year so any number under $16 would be an accurate guess.
Not a free Agent, a trade. Mike Miller perhaps? Tyson Chandler? Emeka Okafur?
I've already challenged your math in that you just assume the Lakers would have gotten some other amazing player out of nowhere without having to give anything up. Then again, they did get Pau Gasol for nothing so it figures that the league would have gotten them someone.
In addition, I'm unsure how Odom becomes the replacement for Pau as though he hasn't been on the team all along. However, I don't really believe you believe this if you're defending Lamar Odom's effort or consistency.
Exactly. Lakers got Pau for an expiring contract. Mike Miller was also available and we know Jerry West had close ties between the Lakers and the Grizzlies.
even Richard Jefferson which was also a contract dump by the Nets (edit Bucks)
Odom as you said has been there all along so he's not a replacement but the natural starter as he was before Pau came.In addition, I'm unsure how Odom becomes the replacement for Pau as though he hasn't been on the team all along. However, I don't really believe you believe this if you're defending Lamar Odom's effort or consistency.
Dude, I'm not going to continue arguing with another fellow Laker fan. All's good.
http://www.bing.com/visualsearch?q=N..._range=4&tc=40
This is a list of 7M-10M players. The quality of players is pretty damn good. I mean , Manu is even in this category.
Thanks for looking that up Xelios, I don't think the Lakers could have pried away Manu from the Spurs; they need a dumber GM for this to work
My point to you other fellows is, the Lakers could have had Marc Gasol (an almost double double man in his rookie season) + another good player for the price of Pau. I think that would have been more than enough to have gotten them a ring last year considering most of the good teams were injured.
And they would have been better setup for the long run due to Marc's much lower price tag, high skill level and young age.
Don't forget that quite a few teams will be looking to shed some salary for the 2010 sweepstakes. I never thought the Spurs would get a player like Jefferson for expiring contracts.Thanks for looking that up Xelios, I don't think the Lakers could have pried away Manu from the Spurs; they need a dumber GM for this to work
My point to you other fellows is, the Lakers could have had Marc Gasol (an almost double double man in his rookie season) + another good player for the price of Pau. I think that would have been more than enough to have gotten them a ring last year considering most of the good teams were injured.
And they would have been better setup for the long run due to Marc's much lower price tag, high skill level and young age.
Let's go back 2 seasons ago.
Its January 31, 2008. Mitch has his roster and is 28-16. Current roster is right around $72 million with Kwame's $9 million expiring. Your prized young starting center just went down for who knows how long. You have a nice young prospect in Critt who has shown promise but is years away from contributing. You have a center in Spain who is relatively unknown but turning some eyes of their.
Just looking at the #'s. Kwame has a $9 million expiring. Sasha had what a $2-3 mil expiring. That leaves you at about $60. Salary cap was at $71 that year.
So you think at that time...trading for Pau Gasol was a bad move.
You think at THIS time...trading for Pau was a bad move?
I thought at the time that trading Marc Gasol was a bad move. He was the MVP of the Spanish League and a tough big man with a 3 pt shooting touch. It won't be long before Marc surpasses Pau.
I'm happy that the Lakers got Pau, it could have been alot worse. And it did net a ring. I'm saying it could have been even better.
Bynum got injured. Is that team going to hold serve and keep HCA in the west last year without Pau???
How can....a LAKER fan of all people...try to discredit Pau here. It is mind boggling.
You are NUTS. Your credibility is shot. You should be ing PINKED.
PERIOD.
If I could ban you I would
Ok...let me put it like this.
Right now....WITH Pau...the Lakers are favorites to win the next 4-5 les...in a row....to be one of the BEST dynasties in any sport of all time..
And your going sit there and tell me it could have been BETTER with Marc Gasol
Dude......GTFO
It's an interesting point, but let's face the reality that the Lakers were much more likely to end up with Drew Gooden or Rasho Nesterovic than with Manu.
Discrediting Pau's contribution builds up the Kobe-as-Jordan myth.
Yes. With Kobe/Lamar/Ariza/Marc + another good player like Mike Miller, Richard Jefferson, Vince Carter that would have been more than enough.
Now when I hear about homer Laker fans, I know who they're talking about. You can't see anything outside the greatness of the Lakers.
I can appreciate Pau but I also realize Marc's not far behind.
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