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  1. #101
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    Is that a joke? Tim Duncan.

    Fact is you have to look at it like a coach would sometimes. Blair played amazing and was extremely productive in limited minutes. When they watch game film, Pop is not going to felate Blair, he is going to help him work on his defense.

    I want Blair to be able to play a ton, in order to do so, he has to continue to work and grow defensively. But a great start overall for the man and it should come with time.

    Duncan actually was pretty mediocre coming out of college on the defensive end.

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    Name me one college player entering the NBA that didn't suck on Defense to begin with.
    tim duncan? he's been all defense team since his rookie year. he holds a record with 12 according to Wikipedia

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    Duncan actually was pretty mediocre coming out of college on the defensive end.
    Stop it. Just like David Lee is an excellent jump shooter and shot blocker? You are really trying to say no one coming out of college was a good defender in their first year?

    Not the point, but a ridiculous statement.

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    Stop it. Just like David Lee is an excellent jump shooter and shot blocker? You are really trying to say no one coming out of college was a good defender in their first year?

    Not the point, but a ridiculous statement.

    Good? no

    Decent to mediocre lots

    horrible even more.


    But I'll stop Mr forum expert.

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    Name me one college player entering the NBA that didn't suck on Defense to begin with.
    Deke. His finger was wagging from day one.

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    Deke. His finger was wagging from day one.
    Shotblocking and defending are two different things.

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    I think you're reaching a lot here EricB, you're really going to see Duncan wasn't a good defensive player at the time?..

    Blair's defense was passable in the 1st half, I didn't have a problem with it at all, especially his help D..he didn't look like he gave too much effort after picking up the fouls though, he let Okafor get by him without too much resistance..the fouls were also careless and rookie mistakes, I'm sure Pop will clean that up..

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    Just for clarification, Duncan was on the second All-Defensive team his rookie season.

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    Shotblocking and defending are two different things.


    Maybe for a weakside shotblocker like Camby. Deke was packing straight up. That requires pretty good defensive technique.

    I'll take you back to your original question though:

    Name me one college player entering the NBA that didn't suck on Defense to begin with.

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    Good? no

    Decent to mediocre lots

    horrible even more.


    But I'll stop Mr forum expert.
    Why do you say ridiculous things, act like you know everything, then say things like "drink drain-o" and "Mr Forum Expert".

    If timvp came in here and said you were wrong (like everyone else has) you would just stop. But anyone else can say it and you do this.

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    Why do you say ridiculous things, act like you know everything, then say things like "drink drain-o" and "Mr Forum Expert".

    If timvp came in here and said you were wrong (like everyone else has) you would just stop. But anyone else can say it and you do this.


    You told me to shut up, so I'm shutting up sir.

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    I think you're reaching a lot here EricB, you're really going to see Duncan wasn't a good defensive player at the time?..

    Blair's defense was passable in the 1st half, I didn't have a problem with it at all, especially his help D..he didn't look like he gave too much effort after picking up the fouls though, he let Okafor get by him without too much resistance..the fouls were also careless and rookie mistakes, I'm sure Pop will clean that up..
    It is just nit-picking, and like I said, Blair does far more good than bad. But Okafor, in the 2nd half, had like 4 straight baskets on Blair (late 3rd quarter I believe).

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    Maybe for a weakside shotblocker like Camby. Deke was packing straight up. That requires pretty good defensive technique.

    I'll take you back to your original question though:

    Eh, I saw Deke have some pretty ty nights with bad positioning letting guys slower than him beat him to spots and what not.

    Oh well.

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    You told me to shut up, so I'm shutting up sir.
    Where did I tell you to shut up? Anyways, back on topic. Great game for Blair, I am hyped. Tonight he looked great with the second unit.

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    I think you're reaching a lot here EricB, you're really going to see Duncan wasn't a good defensive player at the time?..

    Blair's defense was passable in the 1st half, I didn't have a problem with it at all, especially his help D..he didn't look like he gave too much effort after picking up the fouls though, he let Okafor get by him without too much resistance..the fouls were also careless and rookie mistakes, I'm sure Pop will clean that up..

    He was decent, but he got beat by guys from time to time that he wouldn't later in the season.

    e started out OK on the defensive end out of college. Alot better than others, just not great.

    Expecting Blair to is foolish and that was my only point.

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    Where did I say I expect him to be? I said if he wants to continue to get solid minutes and grow as a player, he has to work on the defensive side of the ball. It is not going to come over night, but it was an observation.

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    14/11 in game one blair was a fckn steal.

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    I thought MB made this thread post-nightcap.

    Now?

    I'm no so sure

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    Why do you say ridiculous things, act like you know everything, then say things like "drink drain-o" and "Mr Forum Expert".

    If timvp came in here and said you were wrong (like everyone else has) you would just stop. But anyone else can say it and you do this.
    because tpark is a !

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    I thought MB made this thread post-nightcap.

    Now?

    I'm no so sure
    All his posts are post-nightcap. He just may have been right this time.

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    The amusing thing is that a player like Blair was a stathead's dream in the draft, and NBA front offices lauded for their use of spreadsheets passed on him, namely Houston. The Rockets bought the 32nd and 34th picks and used those on Jermaine Taylor and Sergio Llull, with Blair still on the board.



    Not to mention the perennially acquisitive on draft night, such as Portland, who dealt for Sacto's pick at 31 and used it on Jeff Pendergraph.

    Considering how much those two front offices in particular have stalked the Spurs in the draft and elsewhere over the years, that's quite enjoyable.

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    Also, the Spurs go with the best NCAA player on the board instead of opting for an international talent. The rest of the NBA follows the Spurs abroad, and they stay at home and take one of the top two players in the draft...at 37.

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    Romain Sato, Robertas Javtokas, and Giorgos Printezis were all part of a master plan leading to a head fake on the 37th pick of the 2009 draft.

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    Actually Portland passed on Blair twice in the 2nd round as well.

    As much as the Rockets' stat geek extraordinaire is held in high esteem for drafting Aaron Brooks, he deserves to be derided for passing on the second round draft steal of the decade.

    Cue Bill Worrell jocking Chase Budlinger.

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