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    smoking in public places has been replaced by party drugs....

    and most of them places dont give a anyway

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    Crystals. I can a name a few more if you like. My brother in law worked there at the time. They went from being slammed to a s of their former selves. It was very abrupt too. Almost immediately the damage begun. He pleaded time and time again through the media to take witness of his once thriving restaurant.

    You're calling me ignorant as 30-40 current business owners are mounting a battle to contest this again.

    If the smoking ban had nothing to do with their declining sales why would 30-40 or more sound business owners waste their time and money to pursue the fight.

    Wouldn't they be sitting back to reap the benefits of being smoke free?

    They're not confused okay...these guys have been though tough economic times because a large majority of them have been business owners for decades.

    You can call me ignorant all you want but the sheer volume of people organizing against this outweighs your petty insults.
    The sheer volume of people supporting it should clue these savvy owners that they're fighting a losing battle. Smoking bans are here to stay - adapt or die.

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    The sheer volume of people supporting it should clue these savvy owners that they're fighting a losing battle. Smoking bans are here to stay - adapt or die.
    I hear you. Gays should just deal with discrimination too. Its here to stay.

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    I hear you. Gays should just deal with discrimination too. Its here to stay.

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    ban all smoking at indoor public places!!!!

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    I couldn't care less about anything that happens in corpus christi, they could blow the place up for all I care, I just ask that my mom leaves before they do so.

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    Also, there are several hookah bars in Austin that classify themselves as tobacco shops to cir vent the smoking ban. In addition, if the smoking area is enclosed with a ventilation system it's also ok.

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    I can't think of any places in Austin that closed directly due to the ban, but there is at least one that will close soon that cites it as a factor.

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    Is it anything like the Rocky J's that used to be on Nacogdoches? I used to live at that place when I was a teenager ...
    Owned by the same people, yes.

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    Crystals. I can a name a few more if you like. My brother in law worked there at the time. They went from being slammed to a s of their former selves. It was very abrupt too. Almost immediately the damage begun. He pleaded time and time again through the media to take witness of his once thriving restaurant.
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have nothing but yours and your brother-in-law's opinion that the smoking ban is the reason it shut down.

    You're calling me ignorant as 30-40 current business owners are mounting a battle to contest this again.

    If the smoking ban had nothing to do with their declining sales why would 30-40 or more sound business owners waste their time and money to pursue the fight.
    I'm saying there are 30-41 of you that are ignorant.

    Wouldn't they be sitting back to reap the benefits of being smoke free?
    definitely a waste of time and money. If they end up getting shut down, then based on their poor budget management skills, I won't be surprised.

    They're not confused okay...these guys have been though tough economic times because a large majority of them have been business owners for decades.
    If the smoking ban was to have an effect on their businesses, it would be absolutely marginal at worst, and would be just a short term effect.

    The numbers are out there, but again you are too lazy to go find them and have admitted as such.

    You can call me ignorant all you want.
    Thanks.

    You are ignorant.

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    I hear you. Gays should just deal with discrimination too. Its here to stay.
    Breathing in second hand gay in a public place has not been proven on any level to be bad for your health.

    You are ignorant.

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and say you have nothing but yours and your brother-in-law's opinion that the smoking ban is the reason it shut down.


    It doesn't get more cut and dry. Has nothing to do with my opinion.

    He lobbied hard against the smoking laws. Not only did I hear straight from his mouth he did it publicly every chance he got.

    You can say whatever you want. Insult me however you please but it doesn't change the fact that his business shut down due to the new smoking laws. His was the first to shut down. He led the ing march against this .

    Everyone is ignorant except you Blake. See the trend. You're the epitome of "bliss".

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    Breathing in second hand gay in a public place has not been proven on any level to be bad for your health.
    Tell that to the Christians.

    Discrimination is discrimination. That was the point. You have a right remove yourself from gay displays of PDA just like you have the right to remove yourself from smoke.

    The real difference is little Johnny at the mall can't remove the vision of two dudes tonguing each other but little Johnny would never have an opportunity to enter an over 21 bar with smoke in it.

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    It doesn't get more cut and dry. Has nothing to do with my opinion.
    providing raw data gets cut and dry. Until then, it has everything to do with opinion.

    He lobbied hard against the smoking laws. Not only did I hear straight from his mouth he did it publicly every chance he got.

    You can say whatever you want. Insult me however you please but it doesn't change the fact that his business shut down due to the new smoking laws. His was the first to shut down. He led the ing march against this .
    You can remain as ignorant as you please, but it's not a fact that any restaurant gets shut down specifically because of a smoking ban.

    Everyone is ignorant except you Blake. See the trend. You're the epitome of "bliss".
    If ignorance is bliss, then you have it backwards.

    You are bliss.

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    Tell that to the Christians.
    No thanks.

    Discrimination is discrimination. That was the point. You have a right remove yourself from gay displays of PDA just like you have the right to remove yourself from smoke.
    Just like Blacks had the right to remove themselves from White restaurants in the 1950s.

    ...and there is no law in any public place discriminating between and heterosexual PDA.

    The real difference is little Johnny at the mall can't remove the vision of two dudes tonguing each other but little Johnny would never have an opportunity to enter an over 21 bar with smoke in it.
    are you the little ignorant Johnny in your story?

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    fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant


    blah blah blah. You bring nothing insightful. Same old redundant over and over again. The real ignorance is the fact that you seem to believe or find it acceptable to unnecessary strip the rights of not just the business owners but the other adults of age who chose to indulge in adult activities because you have personal preference.


    Save your precious fingers I'll make your post for you.

    fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant

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    fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant


    blah blah blah. You bring nothing insightful.
    pot.....kettle......kettle.. pot

    Same old redundant over and over again. The real ignorance is the fact that you seem to believe or find it acceptable to unnecessary strip the rights of not just the business owners but the other adults of age who chose to indulge in adult activities because you have personal preference.
    If the business owners want to set up a regulated smoking/cigar bar, I have absolutely no problem with that.

    I have a problem though with smoke in a place where the act of smoking is not what the use of the premises is intended for as such as a pool hall, bowling alley, restaurant or office setting.


    Save your precious fingers I'll make your post for you.

    fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant fail ignorant
    thanks. I'll be sure to copy and paste for your next ignorant fail

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    Nonsmoking bars were busy tonight.

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