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I now understand why you call yourself "Obstructed view".@ Donaghy trying to trash the NBA in an attempt to get revenge and steal money.
@ the idiot NBA fans that take it hook, line and sinker.
So...why didn't the Fed's bring other charges? Or why haven't they continued to investigate if there's something there?
I now understand why you call yourself "Obstructed view".
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Well it could be fake bt everybodys gna think that there team got the screw driver some point in NBA history cant wry bout the past nw jus gta look forward.
The Feds could have brought much wider charges. But too much of an attack against a giant corporation could hurt the economy.
Good back to the Spurstalk thread "NBA is Fixed!" and look at all the links I posted. Donaghy is a scapegoat.
Also, remember, Bob Delaney is a former undercover FBI agent and professional liar.
To be able to do such work ahead of time, the league would have to control for any number of crazy factors that it can't control.
Besides, the rotation isn't "loose." It abides to firm rules to net clear assignments. It's not merely plausible -- it's concrete.
So it comes down to some conspiracy theory. Gotcha.
I can't believe that the publisher folded as quickly as it did. The NBA must have a pretty strong bluff. Nobody could substantiate anything in the Canseco book either when it came out.
In defense of his argument shading isn't the same as fixing. The NBA couldn't outright send Bavetta or Crawford or whoever to every big game they want altered and still keep their rigid assignments as you mentioned, but they could start that cycle of assignments knowing which teams are seeded where and allowing a ref to shade towards one team in the game he calls within the rotation. It isn't an outright fix by any imagination but it's a loose manipulation on the series done when the opportunity and motive are available. They can't keep the Spurs or Kings or Thunder or whoever small market from winning a le but they can loosely alter if the timing is right. That is completely plausible even with the rigid ref rotations, especially since only select crew chiefs work the big playoff series and finals.
You only need one witness to prove a case to a jury. It happens all the time with women who claim they were raped.
Tim Donaghy is an eyewitness to the conspiracy. It is not a theory. Nice try.
This was the series in which Mike D'Antoni was so digusted with the officiating after game 3 he crumbled up the stat sheet and walked out of the press conference.My favorite Tommy Nunez story is from the 2007 playoffs when the San Antonio Spurs were able to get past the Phoenix Suns in the second round. Of course, what many fans didn't know was that Phoenix had someone working against them behind the scenes. Nunez was the group supervisor for that playoff series, and he definitely had a rooting interest.
Nunez loved the Hispanic community in San Antonio and had a lot of friends there. He had been a referee for 30 years and loved being on the road; in fact, he said that the whole reason he had become a group supervisor was to keep getting out of the house. So Nunez wanted to come back to San Antonio for the conference finals. Plus, he, like many other referees, disliked Suns owner Robert Sarver for the way he treated officials. Both of these things came into play when he prepared the referees for the games in the staff meetings. I remember laughing with him and saying, "You would love to keep coming back here." He was pointing out everything that Phoenix was able to get away with and never once told us to look for anything in regard to San Antonio. Nunez should have a championship ring on his finger.
I dont care if theres already another thread, btw. I knew it. I freaking knew it.
The NBA is not fixed. But it is definitely influenced. This ref behaviour or worse happens in all professional sports. welcome to pro sports
Oh, for god's sake, really?
Still?
Get over it!!! Suns time is done yet Los Spurs are still here! GET OVER IT!
well maybe if you didn't have an asshole for an owner, you would have gotten past the Spurs
Yep. This is vinidication for what everyone else already expected.
If it was your team that got screwed over, youd be just as pissed.
Probably. God knows they were better than the Spurs in 2007.well maybe if you didn't have an asshole for an owner, you would have gotten past the Spurs
OK, Suns' fans, we admit it. You lost the series because San Antonio has a vibrant Hispanic community.
No. It's just another of your conspiracy theories. You just seriously posited that the feds would not investigate NBA officials because of the economic benefits provided by the league. Nice try.
GAME SIX INFO FROM THE BOOK:
This game was fixed. Using the video evidence, expert testimony, and the eyewitness testimony of Tim Donaghy, you could get a conviction in any jury in the world. You could also get Ted Bernhardt to testify. He is an honest ref."The 2002 Western Conference Finals between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings presents a stunning example of game and series manipulation at its ugliest. As the teams prepared for Game 6 at the Staples Center, Sacramento had a 3–2 lead in the series. The referees assigned to work Game 6 were Bavetta, Bob Delaney (former undercover FBI agent), and Ted Bernhardt. As soon as the referees for the game were chosen, the rest of us knew immediately that there would be a Game 7. A prolonged series was good for the league, good for the networks, and good for the game. Oh, and one more thing: it was great for the big-market, star-studded Los Angeles Lakers.
In the pregame meeting prior to Game 6, the league office sent down word that certain calls-calls that would have benefitted the Lakers — were being missed by the referees. This was the type of not-so-subtle information that I and other referees were left to interpret. After receiving the dispatch, Bavetta openly talked about the fact that the league wanted a Game 7.
"If we give the benefit of the calls to the team that's down in the series, nobody's going to complain. The series will be even at three apiece, and then the better team can win Game 7," Bavetta stated.
As history shows, Sacramento lost Game 6 in a wild come-from-behind thriller that saw the Lakers repeatedly sent to the foul line by the referees. For other NBA referees watching the game on television, it was a shameful performance by Bavetta's crew, one of the most poorly officiated games of all time."
"The 2002 series certainly wasn't the first or last time Bavetta weighed in on an important game. He also worked Game 7 of the 2000 Western Conference Finals between the Lakers and the Trail Blazers. The Lakers were down by 13 at the start of the fourth quarter when Bavetta went to work. The Lakers outscored Portland 31–13 in the fourth quarter and went on to win the game and the series. It certainly didn't hurt the Lakers that they got to shoot 37 free throws compared to a paltry 16 for the Trail Blazers."
I don't think they are planning on taking down that 2007 banner from the rafters of the AT&T Center.
Dude, vindication is a championship. On the road to becoming a champion, one must stop making excuses and blaming others for one's shortcomings. You have to rip that trophy out of their hands.
I don't see any suggestion here that Donaghy was a witness to the conversation involving Bavetta. At best, he is relaying second-hand information. Probably why publication was canceled.
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