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To answer your question that les this thread. I strongly suspect Pop would not cut Duncan to keep Finley.
Not panicking over the game. Losses are to be expected, I'll live with 81-1 or something similar.
But Finley, 28 minutes... really?
I mean it's 4 on 5 when he's out there.
Someone mind telling Pop he's got to play a player with a pulse, per NBA rules?
To answer your question that les this thread. I strongly suspect Pop would not cut Duncan to keep Finley.
Give a effin break to Pop...it is just beginning of the season..
Insightful question.
No he'd only cut Duncan for Bonner
Spurs should have pressured Finely into retiring...
Pop still not recovering from atrocious 08-09 coaching...
Nah, it doesnt take a basketball genius to realize we've got a glut of players at the Wing Position, and we not only start, but give the most minutes to father time. Where's Malik, or someone who has potential, or anyone who wasnt alive during the Great Depression?
I understand not starting Dice, I don't like Bonner, but he knows the system and is serviceable until Dice figures things out.
Name a single player who was producing at that position tonight.
WTF? Finley guarded Salmons most the night and did a good job on him. Not so good on Deng but he didn't guard him all that much.
Who else was playing better than Finley? Mason sure wasn't. Ginobli wasn't much better. You can make an argument that Bogans deserved some minutes I guess.
Not rebounding the ball and missing too many open 3s killed the Spurs tonight.
Finley was slow to rotate, his stupid pump fake 3 step dump off the ball to whoever was near him, open or not, was AWFUL offense. He was easily fooled on defense, especially that thomas baseline play. I would have liked George at the wing, Bogans maybe, Malik for sure.
George played with passion. He doesnt deserve the minutes over the sack of dirt that is Finley? If he doesnt catch fire early his game is useless.
Last edited by Rob123; 10-29-2009 at 10:23 PM.
I like Michael Finley..he's the epitome of class, he's a great guy, and a good role model for younger players coming up..with that being said, he's not a guy that should be playing significant minutes on any team anymore..
These first 2 games are the best he's going to look from a physical standpoint..he's fresh from a good off-season, he hasn't had any wear and tear from the season yet, hasn't had any injuries..even with that, he's been very bad defensively in both games..he just can't keep up on defense..he misses too many rotations, he can't stay in front of his guy, he can't elevate enough to affect the shot, he didn't make good defensive decisions tonight..
I really have to disagree that Finley played good D on Salmons, he really didn't..Salmons got whatever he wanted, he just missed some open shots like RJ did..he penetrated past Finley any time he had his mind set on driving..Finley was too slow on screens, and he missed several rotations..he also overplayed Brad Miller at the 3-point line when Deng was wide open inside the line on the wing, that play was just bad IMO..
Manu's defense was definitely better, especially coming off screens..Mason's D wasn't great at all, but he was noticeably quicker than Finley..
If Finley isn't doing what he's supposed to do on offense, you put Bogans in the game..that's why they signed him..
I've been screaming this for three years. Finley's last decent year was 2007, and I wanted to dump him after that year. But of course Pop signs him to a two-year contract when he has ZERO left in the tank.
And now we're in the 2nd year of the completely dry tank. Trouble is, when you run on a dry tank, it harms the whole engine.
todays game was a fkn joke, what happen to the intensity from the 1st quarter and the lead just faded in the 2nd quarter...
tim duncan was damn automatic with his bank shot tonight, good performance gone to waste.
Blair + mcdyness were clearly not involve or had any set plays for them when they were on teh court, most of blairs pts came from 2nd chance points or from offensive rebs, dude not many of them will come for him, as for mcdyness he was nowhere to be seen either too much defering or other players going for glory.
parker why doesnt he continue to play and stfu and stop talking to the stupid refs, he just didnt show up tonite...
mason + finley lol wat fkn horse are they still on this team, they provide nothing on defense and sometimes a stone cold on offense...
ginoboli 2nd half points all came from the ft line, while he just dissappeared on offense trying to create alot for himself only to be stuck in traffic...
ghill3 played okay, you can see his jumper is improving and the defense hustling for steals...
todays game was a fkn joke, what happen to the intensity from the 1st quarter and the lead just faded in the 2nd quarter...
tim duncan was damn automatic with his bank shot tonight, good performance gone to waste.
Blair + mcdyness were clearly not involve or had any set plays for them when they were on teh court, most of blairs pts came from 2nd chance points or from offensive rebs, dude not many of them will come for him, as for mcdyness he was nowhere to be seen either too much defering or other players going for glory.
parker why doesnt he continue to play and stfu and stop talking to the stupid refs, he just didnt show up tonite...
mason + finley lol wat fkn horse are they still on this team, they provide nothing on defense and sometimes a stone cold on offense...
ginoboli 2nd half points all came from the ft line, while he just dissappeared on offense trying to create alot for himself only to be stuck in traffic...
ghill3 played okay, you can see his jumper is improving and the defense hustling for steals...
pretty hard to stop the other team when most of their shots falling in...cmon now when a scrub like TThomas is hitting shots 18ft out 3 baskets in a row, some is clearly wrong....
Maybe Finley was promised big minutes until he retired when we originally signed him all those years ago.
I certainly agree Finley shouldn't be playing that many minutes but I guess I didn't think his defense was as bad as some of you.
Ginobli and Jefferson were off. Mason was lost. I like Hill's length and quickness but not sure he has the strength to guard the 3s.
Bogans is the only guy you can make an argument for that should have gotten some of Finley's minutes.
I just don't think he was the problem tonight but he's the goat for all losses.
Finley obviously wasn't the only problem..as I pointed out in the other thread, pretty much everybody outside of Duncan was bad tonight..
I just don't see any logic at all in giving a guy Finley's age so many minutes..it's absolutely impossible to be a great defensive team if you're giving an offensive player of that age so many minutes..it's different if the guy is a defensive specialist, but Finley has NEVER been known for his defense, so it just doesn't make any sense..especially in today's NBA, where there are so many talented perimeter players, and you can barely touch them..
finley is making up the number on the court where we are at teh disadvantage playin 4on5
blair couldve manhandled downlow if he was given more offensive touches down low instead of relying on putbacks or 2nd chance points from offensive rebs....
Let the bandwagon meltdown begin.
I can't wait until I can change my avy..
Ah all the blame on Finley again. New season same Bull .
Lets see, Jefferson shot pathetic, again. Ginobili shot pathetic.
Parker was worse. So obviously it was,,, FINLEY!
Lets see also you hold the Bulls to under 90 points and were ing about defense?
If your gonna about anything about offense.
Thats where the game was lost. That and getting outrebounded by 12.
bonner should be coming off the bench.....I would be nice if ian was in the line-up....bogan should be seated out
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