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That RINO was endorsed by 11 local precinct chairs, while her opponent does not even live in the district, knows nothing about it, and got 99% of his money from out of state.
Can you say carpetbagger?
Doug Hoffman is now in the lead for the NY-23 special elections at 58% if I remember the numbers correctly from this morning. He is the conservative candidate endorced by Sarah Palin and other prominent conservatives. Dede Scozzafava, the republican candidate was polling at 20% and dropped out. I say she bit the dust, because she is now indorcing her democrat opponent, Bill Owens, who was polling at 36%. She now (in my opinion) has no political future unless she joins the democrat party. At least another RINO is pushed out of the republiccan party.
Hoffman was polling at 35% and is now sitting well to win.
That RINO was endorsed by 11 local precinct chairs, while her opponent does not even live in the district, knows nothing about it, and got 99% of his money from out of state.
Can you say carpetbagger?
lol, the purge continues.
Would be nice to see a legitimate 3rd party rise up. I don't nessecarily think I'd like this particular one, but having a broader spectrum of representation is always a good thing.
I'm not sure who's going to win this special election. Its a really GOP friendly district and if a Democratic win is a longshot even with the GOP candidate throwing her weight behind the Democratic candidate.
Should help make for an interesting Tuesday.
Sounds to me like a smoke filled room of RINO's decided to sneak in a Democrat. She even makes the case more difficult when she endorses the liberal running against the GOP.
If you keep driving people who are technically still Republicans out of your emaciated tribe, the people who vote for them may follow. Whatever happened to the big tent?
The idea that the centeral committes of either party are represenative of the people is ridiculous, even at a local level rank and file democrats and republicans are not active. The people are not active in politics yet, control over parties is being maintained by special interests in both parties. The fact that he's not being supported by the precint chairs makes him a more viable canidate for conservative republicans.In fact it is admirable that at least the republicans have a health dissent.
Who then is active at the local level, if not the local rank and file?
So then, in your version the local GOP is "special interests", while the RNC,out of state pols and national PACS are the "grassroots" riding in on white horses to save upstate New York from its preferred style of Republican. Hilarious.
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On Morning Joe, I forget his name but he said that in 2010 NY23 will be incorporated into a bunch of Dem districts and so GOP didn't want to give up a guy who would be out of a job in two years. I don't know how valid that is though.
As far as big tent, 40% of Americans consider themselves conservative. Also this is the district with the largest employer being Ft. Drum. Military towns, in my experience tend to be pretty socially conservative. They say this is a pretty conservative district, makes sense that the Dems would redistrict it out of existence.
Only 17% consider themselves Republicans, and you want to make the party even smaller.
How many non-politicians or obscure state legislators are going to step up after this, knowing that in mid-race their party may abandon them? How does this grow a party that's been contracting among minorities and in virtually every region but the South?
The RNC and NRCC actually supported Scozzafava up until her resignation a day or two ago. They were spending mad money on that campaign. I think we're going to see a lot more of this implosion on the Republican Party and honestly, Democrats have to be loving every bit of it. Even if they lose this relatively minor election.
Today's WSJ:
But that lesson will be for naught if conservatives conclude that their victory is reason to challenge any candidate who doesn't agree with them on every issue. The truth is that some conservatives are as bloody-minded and intolerant of all dissent as the hard left is at the Daily Kos. A majority political party requires a far more diverse coalition than the audience for your average right-wing blogger or talk show host. Some of those voices prefer having Democrats in power because it drives up their own ratings.
Democrats did themselves no favors by driving Joe Lieberman out of their party, and conservatives will do their cause no good by forcing GOP candidates in Illinois, California and Connecticut to sound like Tom DeLay. If conservatives now revolt against every GOP candidate who disagrees with them on trade, immigration or abortion, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will keep their majorities for a very long time.
This kind of Stalinistic purging of Repug moderates, leaving the Repugs even more dominated by wing-nut right-wing hate mongers and "Christian" supremacists is why only 17% of US poll as identifying themselves as Repugs.
I love it. Repugs have no chance of winning in 2010.
Yes, and the rest of that editorial was good, too.
This IMO has nothing to do with big tent, since she was a liberal. I am ok with a big tent as long as republicans don't lose their main principles. Why would someone vote for democrat-lite?
In my experince the local members of the chamber of commerce,bussiness leaders,political junkies. The average american couldn't tell you who their represantive in the house is much less who sits on the board of their central committe.
No the people that are putting him in the lead in N.Y, state 23 are the grassroots. And more hilarious is you talking about carpetbagging in N.Y. and not mentioning Hilary Clinton.
This strikes me as a very special case, and not really worth the national attention it's receiving. All jokes contain a kernel of truth, and the old jokes about the two parties was: Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. Has that really changed?
It's possible. I think what we've seen here is an increasingly populist tone in Republican politics, all across the country. The local party bosses thought they could just ram home a "winning" candidate over the objections of conservative voters, but they clearly crossed the line. They may have been able to get away with this 10 years ago, but not anymore.
I'm sure they picked what's-her-face because they were looking ahead to reelection prospects in 2010. As someone who is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, anti-death penalty---but does not prioritize those issues---I hope conservatives are mostly upset about the GOP's lack of fidelity to IMPORTANT issues, like taxes, trade, spending, and defense.
If social and cultural issues become the major points of contention within the GOP, Republicans can kiss libertarian support good-bye.
Hilary Clinton has nothing to do with this.
Well let's lift the cover of the DNC's tent, what do we got...A president
who is nearly a lame duck in his first term. He can't get health care passed, not because of Republicans since they are way in the minority, but because of democrats who won't support him. He can't make a decision on the Wars because he's trying to appease both sides of his party, He won't get cap and trade, or amnesty passed for the same reasons.Some big tent.A bunch of cannibals at a nudist colony.
The idea that some great american consenus was granted is as big a myth as Obama's massive I.Q. and the more we see of him, the more both myths are shattered.But it is a canadicy built on hype and bull , and so it remains.
So republicans are trying to rebuild themselves in a bloody coupe, and the democrats are burning candles at the the alter of a myth.
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