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    KG's contract expires after 2011-12. The "possible" free agents that summer include Carmelo, Dwight Howard, Kevin Durant. Now obviously I'd expect their current teams to try to get them to sign extensions, but you never know. It's quite a few years from then and anything can happen. When it comes to franchises like the Celtics and the Lakers, fortuitous things happen like getting KG or Gasol rather easily. With the amount of cap space they'd have, it's absolutely conceivable a superstar who's frustrated with his current team could bail and go to Boston. And again, trades can happen or getting a franchise type player thru the draft can happen. But Boston won't be building around Rondo as their next franchise player.

    The point with Magic's and Worthy's contracts is to show that financially the Celts can make moves once Pierce and KG are off the books, as West waited for there was room to make moves financially to acquire a franchise player.

    Again, I'm not saying Boston will remain contenders. I'm saying if they are able to, it won't be by them building around Rondo and Perkins as the franchise pieces.
    I find it highly unlikely. This overpaid signing tells me they're bracing for the rebuilding years.

    I suppose we'll find out in 3 years.

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    According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

    This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.

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    So you honestly and sincerely think Ainge and the rest of the Boston front office feel Rondo is "the guy" they'll be building and/or rebuilding around once Pierce and KG are gone?

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    According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

    This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.
    Actually, Allanon has a good point

    Rondo is good, but not great.

    After KG-PP-RA retire, they will need a lot of $$$ to attract big names

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    According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

    This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.
    When did I say this?

    Please keep the stupidity coming from your mouth not mines.

    My point is the Celtics are going into rebuilding mode with an overpaid signing.

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    If Rondo was a guy to build around, he'd get a similar contract to the one Brandon Roy got. Or, at least, a LMAldridge type of contract. Or, at the very least, an Andrea Bargnani contract. Just to name guys from his rookie class that got bigger contracts. This is a very moveable contract.

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    So you honestly and sincerely think Ainge and the rest of the Boston front office feel Rondo is "the guy" they'll be building and/or rebuilding around once Pierce and KG are gone?
    Rondo is the guy they're sticking with after Pierce and KG are gone. This is their young core going into mediocrity.

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    When did I say this?
    By saying the Celtics should not give him this extension. Do you think he'll get less than this in the market?

    Overpaid? Yeah, you're one of the "he's only good because he's a great supporting cast" re s?

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    This is a very moveable contract.
    Very moveable to a team looking for a PG that can defend but can't shoot.

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    According to Allanon, the Celtics should let Rondo walk for nothing because they can't be sure they'll be contenders after the big 3 leave.

    This easily makes the list of the stupidest reasonings ever expressed, but no surprise considering the author.

    If you want to know truths and wisdom, just do the opposite of what allanon says.

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    Rondo is the guy they're sticking with after Pierce and KG are gone. This is their young core going into mediocrity.
    That doesn't answer my question. Once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone, do you think Boston won't go after superstars to replace them? Superstars who are better than Rondo? You think they'll make it Rondo's team, as in he's the franchise player, the best player on the team? Is that what you believe?

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    ha .. that's excellent, nice contract for rebuild stage for a guy who fills the stat sheet and who may even get a jumper. Super tradeble after to the likes of grizz... danny knows what he is doing.

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    By saying the Celtics should not give him this extension. Do you think he'll get less than this in the market?
    Yes, he was definitely overpaid.

    Overpaid? Yeah, you're one of the "he's only good because he's a great supporting cast" re s?
    Absolutely. Once KG, Pierce and Ray Allen are gone, you'll realize how overpaid he really is.

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    That doesn't answer my question. Once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone, do you think Boston won't go after superstars to replace them? Superstars who are better than Rondo? You think they'll make it Rondo's team, as in he's the franchise player, the best player on the team? Is that what you believe?
    Yes, I believe Rondo will be the best player on that team once KG/Pierce/Allen are gone.

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    If you want to know truths and wisdom, just do the opposite of what allanon says.
    Good to see you've signed into your troll account.

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    LOL still doesn't answer my question. So Ainge won't "try" to get any superstar players once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone. He and the Celtics front office will be content with Rondo being the franchise player? They won't even "try" getting players better than Rondo? Not whether they'll be able to, but will they try?

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    LOL still doesn't answer my question. So Ainge won't "try" to get any superstar players once Pierce, KG, and Allen are gone. He and the Celtics front office will be content with Rondo being the franchise player? They won't even "try" getting players better than Rondo? Not whether they'll be able to, but will they try?
    I'm sure they'll try. But they won't get.

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    Thank you for finally admitting that what you initially opined was inaccurate...

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    Thank you for finally admitting that what you initially opined was inaccurate...
    Where was it inaccurate? Please quote.

    Celtics will be in rebuild mode in 2012, good luck with building around Rondo.

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    I'm sure they'll try. But they won't get.
    C'mon, we both know there are ALWAYS going to be teams that up badly like the clips, griz, bucks who would see rondo's stats padding as the best thing possible and will give trades like oj mayo for rondo or blake griffin for rondo.

    Let's face, when en ies up usually that means that they respect a mathematical rule. There will always be teams desperate or dumb enough to pull the trigger on idiot trades.

    Plus there will ALWAYS be discontent superstars (cp3 anyone? griffin if he survives the clippers) who will WANT out. Want out to teams with a name where they know other people will come. Teams like celtics and lakers.

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    That they'd be banking on Rondo and the suggestion that they wouldn't have anyone else to build around as if they wouldn't even try to get anyone else to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen. That's what I've been asking this whole time. Not whether they'd be able to acquire superstars to replace them, but rather would they be content with Rondo being the franchise player and the best player and not even try to get superstar players better than Rondo. That was my point the entire time. They won't be building around Rondo.

    $11 million is very high for a 4th year player. He will be the highest paid Celtic in 2012...it seems this is the young player they will be banking on for the next 5 years.

    The Celtics have nobody else to build around in 2012 other than Rondo.

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    That they'd be banking on Rondo and the suggestion that they wouldn't have anyone else to build around as if they wouldn't even try to get anyone else to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen. That's what I've been asking this whole time. Not whether they'd be able to acquire superstars to replace them, but rather would they be content with Rondo being the franchise player and the best player and not even try to get superstar players better than Rondo. That was my point the entire time. They won't be building around Rondo.
    First of all, that isn't what I originally opined. Look at my first post, I quoted it above. Obviously, there's nothing there that can be "inaccurate" as you said. But that's OK, I'll take this one as well.

    The Celtics ARE banking on Rondo; there is nothing else right now.

    Until something else materializes, they are still banking on Rondo; that's why Rondo's getting paid.

    Nothing inaccurate here either.

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    The question is, would someone have offered him at least that much this summer?

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    First of all, that isn't what I originally opined. Look at my first post, I quoted it above. Obviously, there's nothing there that can be "inaccurate" as you said. But that's OK, I'll take this one as well.

    The Celtics ARE banking on Rondo; there is nothing else right now.

    Until something else materializes, they are still banking on Rondo; that's why Rondo's getting paid.

    Nothing inaccurate here either.
    I kept asking you whether you thought they'd try to build around Rondo as the best player, the franchise player and you kept avoiding answering that question. And look at the post I quoted. Your suggestion that they'd build around Rondo as the only player they'd have infers they wouldn't try to go after other superstars to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen, guys who would be better than Rondo. That's why I asked you to clarify that and you kept refusing to respond to it until you finally admitted that Boston would NOT be trying to build around Rondo.

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    I kept asking you whether you thought they'd try to build around Rondo as the best player, the franchise player and you kept avoiding answering that question. And look at the post I quoted. Your suggestion that they'd build around Rondo as the only player they'd have infers they wouldn't try to go after other superstars to replace Pierce, KG, and Allen, guys who would be better than Rondo. That's why I asked you to clarify that and you kept refusing to respond to it until you finally admitted that Boston would NOT be trying to build around Rondo.
    I never inferred they wouldn't "try". I inferred that I didn't think they would "get". I stated numerous times that they wouldn't "get" anybody but never once said they wouldn't "try".

    I did say "banking" which in all sense of the word is accurate. Hoping and trying is in no sense banking.

    This is what they have and what they are "banking" on - $11 million to Rajon Rondo. Anything else is just a possibility. There is no inaccuracy here.

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