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Rodman does not know what the he is talking about.
"That's an easy question," Rodman says. "LeBron, he's more of a power forward. Kobe . . . has basically grown into his skills. I think Kobe has [become] a Michael Jordan of this era because he's very smart, and he knows how to score.
"LeBron is more like. 'Here I come, watch out!' I think LeBron right now is more like a kid, like a freight train. Kobe is better."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,1174893.story
Rodman on Judge Pirro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Cdn...eature=related
Rodman does not know what the he is talking about.
Of course Kobe's skills are better... nobody really argues that...
But size and athleticism are apart of basketball too.
I think LeBron is more physically gifted. Kobe, on the other hand, has a much more reliable jumper and has to be defended on the entire floor.
Thanks Dennis ! so cool... a wise opinion on the kobe/lbj debate, we need it.
If Kobe and LBJ switch teams...
...then the lakers have more les
LBJ>Kobe
askn the worm for an answer lmao
Its really not even a comparison at this point. Kobe has continually underacheived unless he is on a completely stacked team, even then he has managed to choke (2003). Lebron has virtually no help and carries his team to ridiculous levels, although never quite over the top.
LBJ just pulls up for 3s in clutch situations and hardly hits them. It annoys me a lot. Near end of Cavs v Boston was good example where he set no play except a three for himself and bricked it as Pierce hit a 2 at other end. He needs to change that. Kobe does that too but not as much. I think Kobes the more skilled, smarter player while LBJ is the supreme athlete
kobe is the best player 1v1 in the league. He is the most complete.
In 5v5 basketball situations they are of similar value to their teams because those teams function differently and ask various things from them (some of which are common such as scoring, some are not=creating).
I find it interesting that kobe needed to mature mentally to trust his teammates while lebron trusts his teammates but needs to mature skillwise. In a 5v5 it matters most how the team is built for the player(we are talking about kobe-bron-wade-cp3-d12 level). When the team is built correctly around the player he can really shine, when it is not he does not.
Furthermore, some builds have a maximum of effectiveness. Example(right now): cp3 is not a defensive pg so defensively his team will always have a flaw ; lebron can have big fluctuations in offensive efficiency against great defenses so his team will always have fluctuations because the offense mainly runs through him; wade plays recklessly and this will cost him, therefore his team is always under the pressure of losing him (those of you who play team sports understand fairly easy that this is a big problem for a team); d12 has no great postup game, moreover he is not a leader so his team will always need a source(or more) of balance on the floor.
Now i don't care what rodman says but there are many factors that casual or "too passionate"/blind fans are not aware of. In this era of stats it's easy to not take into account leadership, team defense,team assists, etc and to try to compare players 1v1 when it does not make sense. For superstars the best comparison is if they can make (not lead) their team succesful while playing in team tailored for them.
Kobe was no leader for much of his career. I sincerely think he isn't one right now. Kobe is a winner and a great example but leadership isn't just a winning mentality, it's the ability to give this mentality to teammates (in this league timmy, bron, billups are these guys). I'm not yet sold on cp3, I'll give him a couple of seasons.
D-wade and kobe are more of killers on the floor than leaders. Their mission out there is not to make others better but to kill the opposition. Sure, if teammates jump in the rythm it's ok, but mainly these guys breathe with killing in mind.
Lebron is more of a leader than a killer and because people want him to be like/better than kobe he started to try to be more of a killer, which i don't think will work out for him because he is a better player when he plays lebron ball then when he plays kobe ball (lebron pass first /kobe score first). Sure it can work sometimes, but more often than not it leads to inefficient scoring(see ECF).
Anyways, the whole point is that each superstar needs a tailored team to shine. Sure, some are more spectacular, thus popular (magic johnson, jordan) and some are less popular(hakeem, even bird), but a team is far more than a player and a team brings the rings.
As for the rings discussion, without a good tailored team you can't have rings. So without a capable front desk and an intelligent coach you're ed ( o bron!).
The most comical thing is that these guys are so talented that they can push games even when their team is not built for them and we see it and consider it's better for them to play this way than to play team ball, which leads to bad habbits. Few superstars truely understood this.
There's been a shift in opinion since last year when LeBron got bounced by Dwight even though he had 4 past/present All Stars on his team.
If you can't even get past Dwight after winning 66 games, that's a choke. We laugh at the Mavs choking to the Warriors, this wasn't far off.
LeBron's pounding the ball too much while his teammates stand and watch. This is no different than young ballhog Kobe. And this will never win the championship.
I think most people now are saying Kobe's the better player because of this failure.
Who were these past/present all stars?
Mo, Big Z, Ben Wallace, Wally + LeBron = 5 total
lol @past allstars.
I agree with you that this type of ball only leads to personal stats.
Furthermore i mentioned that a team has to be tailored for a superstar for him to be succesfull => the duncan-spurs, kobe needs a low post scorer, dwight needs shooters, lebron needs a scoring big that can defend, etc. And the team has to be able to defend, has to be able to not be exploited by matchup nightmares, and has to be motivated... these are all important.
Mo can not defend and CHOCKED in the playoffs
Bigz can not defend and is old and slow
Ben + Wally = joke.
The cavs overachieved BIG TIME last year => the lol of mo williams being an all star => the heart breakening loss in ECF.
The problem with the cavs (all of them including bron) is that they are too emotional, thus they need guidance, thus the pressure on the superstar, thus the chocking and balling in dumb way.
this is why these conversations never end in agreement:
- If I was building a team from scratch, I pick Lebron 100% of the time
- I also admit Kobe is a "better" player
- they are both equally hard and equally dangerous at any given time
Lebron is still potential
Kobe has reached his potential
Kobe is better right now
I would take Rodman's opinion on transves es... and not much anything else.
Did you practice to become this stupid?
Nah, I learned from you .
Let me know when it's not true.
If Kobe had Mo/Ben Wallace/Wally/Big Z would they beat Orlando?
I'm not saying LeBron > Kobe or Kobe > LeBron, but saying Those 4 players were even slightly good enough to beat Orlando is re ed.
Yes.
We so quickly forget that alot of experts had the Cavs winning it all and that the Cavs had a legit team. They just choked.
They won 66 games and stomped the opposition in the 1st 2 rounds.
i honestly dont care who is better...at the end of the day, its all about rings. If Lebron never gets a ring, 20 yrs from now he'll be next to the greats along with Barkely, and Malone.
Anyone who thinks those guys are true "all-stars" is ed in the head. In their prime they were borderline all-stars at best. The only reason Z was ever an all-star was because the Eastern Conference was just that weak. Last year most of those guys were past their prime and weren't even NEAR all-star level. So calling those guys all-stars you're either...
A) Making a Joke
B) An idiot
C) Serious and therefore B) an idiot
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