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    Forget it. He got injured. The Pacers lose him for two weeks.

    http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wir...for_two_weeks/
    If we trade for a player like a Foster (or a Nick Collison as a someone suggessted), it'll likely be closer to the trade deadline anyways.

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    Forget it. He got injured. The Pacers lose him for two weeks.

    http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wir...for_two_weeks/
    The trade either makes sense or it doesn't. An ankle sprain in November is irrelevant to that decision.

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    I think currently Spurs would rather put Mason in a package than Finley.
    and add Ian instead of Bonner. (unfortunately this is slightly less than necessary to get the number for Foster. after Dec.15th a package of Mason, Ian and Haislip would be enough to get Foster).
    With the luxury tax, doing a trade for Collison/Foster and keeping Bonner makes few sense. Bonner has a quite big salary ($3.26M) and will cost a lot of money with the tax for an end of the bench player.

    If Spurs rather trade Mason than Finley, the logical package would be Mason+Bonner. Spurs could then dump one of Haislip or Mahinmi in a Beno-like trade.

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    Bonner has a quite big salary ($3.26M) and will cost a lot of money with the tax for an end of the bench player.
    That's not reality. As long as Pop is the coach.

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    That's not reality. As long as Pop is the coach.
    You seem to have forgotten how many times Bonner spent an extended period of time in Pop's doghouse. History suggests Pop has no problem burying Bonner at the end of the bench if he is not playing well.

    Finley..on the other hand........

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    You seem to have forgotten how many times Bonner spent an extended period of time in Pop's doghouse. History suggests Pop has no problem burying Bonner at the end of the bench if he is not playing well.

    Finley..on the other hand........
    When Bonner came to the Spurs, he had to earn his due. That was evident by him being on the end of the bench to begin with when he joined the Spurs in 2006-2007. He stayed on the end of the bench for his first 2 seasons with the Spurs and only played mop up minutes.

    Because of his hardwork and him earning his due, Pop then gave him a real opportunity. Robert Horry not coming back last year was a big part of that because Bonner was our only answer in terms of a big that could spread the floor.

    Since then Pop has never put Bonner in his doghouse. So your wrong.


    Bonner never got a real opportunity with the Spurs until last year.

    Since then Pop has gone to Bonner over any other big.
    Gooden, Thomas, Oberto to name a few.

    By the way Bonner is still starting...

    * FYI I'm not a Bonner fan by anymeans. I just know how you and some others overlook how much Pop values Bonner as crazy as that sounds.

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    When Bonner came to the Spurs, he had to earn his due. That was evident by him being on the end of the bench to begin with when he joined the Spurs in 2006-2007. He stayed on the end of the bench for his first 2 seasons with the Spurs and only played mop up minutes.

    Because of his hardwork and him earning his due, Pop then gave him a real opportunity. Robert Horry not coming back last year was a big part of that because Bonner was our only answer in terms of a big that could spread the floor.

    Since then Pop has never put Bonner in his doghouse. So your wrong.
    Bonner has played good enough. He shot well last year and that kept him on the floor. But now that we have some depth the cir stances have changed. You just said yourself that Bonner was our only answer last year and that is why he got minutes. Are you saying that Bonner would stay on the floor even if he was not shooting well...with McDyess right there at the end of the bench at Pop's disposal? Bonner's performance in the playoffs is the reason McDyess is here, and I have no doubt that Bonner would go right back to the doghouse if he started to show signs of lacking confidence or struggles shooting.
    Bonner never got a real opportunity with the Spurs until last year.

    Since then Pop has gone to Bonner over any other big.
    Gooden, Thomas, Oberto to name a few.

    By the way Bonner is still starting...
    lol...look at those options. Gooden was too dumb to pick up the system, Thomas was struggling and Oberto is incredibly limited. It's not like he was playing ahead of some world beaters. You act like I give a damn about Bonner starting. I have already stated several times that I don't care if he starts right now, because the player that was brought here to replace him will probably be in there ahead of him as soon as he is comfortable in the system.

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    Bonner has played good enough. He shot well last year and that kept him on the floor. But now that we have some depth the cir stances have changed. You just said yourself that Bonner was our only answer last year and that is why he got minutes. Are you saying that Bonner would stay on the floor even if he was not shooting well...with McDyess right there at the end of the bench at Pop's disposal? Bonner's performance in the playoffs is the reason McDyess is here, and I have no doubt that Bonner would go right back to the doghouse if he started to show signs of lacking confidence or struggles shooting.
    I see it like you. playing Bonner right now is just very pragmatic. Blair and Dice will need several NBA games to become an integral part of the system and Pop will also keep the minutes of Tim and Dice as low as possible, at least in the 1st half of the season. Bonner is a decent option for 15-20 regular season minutes, especially against teams that are weak on the boards. but I'm pretty sure it's not the big plan to enter the next PO with Bonner as a part of the PO rotation.
    best case is, he plays decent enough to allow Dice and Blair a stepwise integration and at deadline he (his expiring contract) becomes part of a trade for a quality role player.

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