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    GOP Set to Propose Its Own Health Bill

    By GREG HITT



    WASHINGTON -- Republicans are preparing an alternative health-care bill to Democratic legislation, House Republican Leader John Boehner said, marking a shift in strategy as the full House is set to begin debate on the issue this week.
    Mr. Boehner said Sunday the Republican bill would extend health-insurance coverage to "millions" of Americans but wouldn't try to match the scope of the House Democratic bill unveiled last week. The Democratic legislation, if passed, is estimated to expand coverage to more than 30 million Americans now without insurance. Its estimated gross cost is $1.055 trillion over 10 years.
    "What we do is we try to make the current system work better," Mr. Boehner, of Ohio, said on CNN's "State of the Nation." The GOP plan would likely be less costly to taxpayers and involve less government intrusion into the private sector. Mr. Boehner said the bill would take "a step-by-step approach" to expanding coverage.
    It would, among other things, propose new limits on medical malpractice lawsuits and make it easier for individuals and small businesses to pool resources to purchase insurance.
    Mr. Boehner said the Republican bill would also propose grants for states that use "innovative" solutions to expand coverage. He pointed to states that have created special "high-risk pools" to provide insurance to individuals with pre-existing conditions.
    He said the bill wouldn't raise taxes, nor mandate that individuals and businesses purchase insurance, as the Democratic legislation does.
    For months, Republicans have attacked the Democratic health plan, hammering at pieces of the bill -- such as a proposed government-run health plan -- and helping to stir public doubt over the initiative.
    By unveiling their own legislation, Republicans will be able to coalesce around a concrete plan. But they also open themselves to potential criticism of their proposals.
    Republicans have talked about a variety of alternatives to Democratic efforts on health care, but decided to put out their own bill after seeing details of the legislation unveiled by Democrats last Thursday. GOP leaders hope to offer the measure as an alternative during debate on the Democratic bill, and a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) said Republicans would be allowed to do so.
    In the Senate, where Democratic leaders are pushing a proposal to create a new government-run insurance plan, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, the Connecticut independent, made clear again Sunday that he opposed the idea. The senator said he wouldn't try to block debate on the bill, but signaled he would support any Republican efforts to block a vote on it.
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    lol gop pretending to give a .

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    They might as well write it with Crayolas.

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    don't get sick

    die quickly

    "Just Go To The Emergency Room"

    If you get sick, declare bankruptcy on your way home from the hospital.

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    Guilliani had a good idea of making it available to where you can buy insurance from different states.

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    Guilliani had a good idea of making it available to where you can buy insurance from different states.
    Then who regulates it?

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    Then who regulates it?
    The state where the insurance company is located at.
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    They might as well write it with Crayolas.
    Why?

    For forty years, the democrats were promising medicare presription changes. The democrats never accomlplished it, but the republicans did just a few years ago, in a sane manner. Maybe they can do the same with Health Care. I don't think so, but it is possible.

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    Then who regulates it?
    You joking?

    The way the law is, if the state doesn't regulate it, the feds can. The demonrats are trying to take that option away from the states though.

    All the state has to do is say you abide by certain rules.

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    The state where their company is located at.
    So which state's laws would apply in a lawsuit?

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    "but the republicans did just a few years ago, in a sane manner."

    Yes, Part D paid to private insurance corps costs the US govt 12% more than Medicare, and still required dubya to give the corps $50B gift to get involved.

    Repugs never saw a taxpayer dollar that wasn't earmarked for their corporate johns.

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    So which state's laws would apply in a lawsuit?
    I edited it. Hope that helps. This is just an idea I thought was worth trying or debating. I dont have all the answers.

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    Die, and die quickly?

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    Die, and die quickly?
    I read into the Libs rationing medicine as death panels and BHO saying that grandma needs morphine as closer towards your comment.

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    I read into the Libs rationing medicine as death panels and BHO saying that grandma needs morphine as closer towards your comment.
    You know that medicine is rationed NOW, right?

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    I read into the Libs rationing medicine as death panels and BHO saying that grandma needs morphine as closer towards your comment.
    rationing? like when only a select few can get coverage either due to cost or "pre-existing" conditions? or like that lady who was raped and who's doctor recommended AID's medicine so her insurance company dropped her and no other company would touch her until she produced her own 3 years worth of records showing that she was HIV-?

    because if that's what you mean, then rationing already exists.

    if thats what you mean, then i would rather have the option of having a government regulated/ legally accountable agency doing the rationing then a for profit corporation, but maybe that's just me.

    no one wants grandma to die. however grandma should have her options when it comes to that moment to make it as pain free as possible, no matter who carries her insurance.

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    You know that medicine is rationed NOW, right?
    Could you explain in more detail.

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    Could you explain in more detail.
    really?

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    Then who regulates it?
    Eventually under the GOP proposal I think you would see consolidation of the health insurance industry under a small number of mega health insurance companies. They could eventually be strictly regulated by the federal government. That's the thing that is most interesting about all of this to me. The GOP is offering up (unwittingly perhaps) a path towards a Switzerland type model. Which I would support and I think could work well in the USA. Unfortunately the Dems are stuck on taking us towards a single payer system which I don't think would work here.

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    Unfortunately the Dems are stuck on taking us towards a single payer system which I don't think would work here.
    you do know that single-payer isn't in the dem bill, right?

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    If it's that easy, why didn't you?

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    die slowly means $25K/day in ICU while the medical "care" sucks every penny, and more, from you and your family.

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    you do know that single-payer isn't in the dem bill, right?
    It's an attempt to take us in that direction. Leading dems are on record saying as much.

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    don't get sick

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    "Just Go To The Emergency Room"

    If you get sick, declare bankruptcy on your way home from the hospital.
    Silly lib sheep.

    Oh wait, you think care won't be rationed with Dems adding 40 million to the ranks of the 'insured'. That, and docs leaving the system because of no caps on malpractice suits (which will e malpractice insurance costs), cap on pay, etc.

    Y'all are some dumb mother ers on the left.

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    rationing? like when only a select few can get coverage either due to cost or "pre-existing" conditions? or like that lady who was raped and who's doctor recommended AID's medicine so her insurance company dropped her and no other company would touch her until she produced her own 3 years worth of records showing that she was HIV-?

    because if that's what you mean, then rationing already exists.

    if thats what you mean, then i would rather have the option of having a government regulated/ legally accountable agency doing the rationing then a for profit corporation, but maybe that's just me.

    no one wants grandma to die. however grandma should have her options when it comes to that moment to make it as pain free as possible, no matter who carries her insurance.

    That situation sucks (though I haven't seen the facts on it). There are isolated stories like that all over the country. But you know what the system the Dems want to gives us going to give you?

    The same story, but the patients will be passing away sitting in waiting rooms at hospitals or on gurneys in hallways because there's no room available anywhere else.

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