everyone thinks that BSU's D had nothing to do with Oregon's offensive performance, it was just that Oregon hadn't shown up for the season yet.
BSU would beat them today just like they did last month.
wow, I'm a little surprised that TCU jumped BSU already, what current top 25 teams has TCU beaten? BSU has a top 10 team under their belt, a team that just might beat USC and represent the Pac 10 in the Rose Bowl TCU.
also BYU obviously took a dive just to spite BSU
I love Boise (and ilk) until we get a playoff system.
We could have 5 or 6 undefeated teams this year. Blow up the BCS.
how many teams should make the playoffs?
as it stands now according to CBS's rankings
7 of the bottom 25 teams are on BSU's Schedule, add UC Davis and you've got 8 of BSU's 13 opponents in the bottom 25 or worse
Last edited by vander; 11-01-2009 at 11:01 PM. Reason: forgot to put the 7 in there lol
playoffs will take away a lot of the excitement of the reg. season.
yeah, no one watches the NFL regular season.
Or NCAA BB
No it doesn't.
and Boise sucks.
So ing wrong
actually he's right, and the NCAA etc. know it
the bowl system generates much more interest and much more money than a playoff would.
but, one again, in a playoff, how many teams should get in and how should they be selected?
right about now there are playoff advocates growing at boise state, tcu, iowa, cincinatti and even at oregon, miami....
field would have to be 12 in order to give out 4 byes.
that's still too many teams getting in, that means any big time program with a tough schedule could lose 2 games and still have a shot at the le. that would ruin the regular season more than any of you realize.
if there was going to be a playoff system, it should IMO be provisional, and only for undefeated teams.
so in the case of 3 undefeated BCS teams, the 2 lower ranked teams play an elimination game first, or if there are 4 undefeated, an actual 4 team playoff
non-BCS conference teams should not get equal treatment, they would have to have their own elimination round first, and the winner of that can enter the BSC playoffs
so as it stands now, BSU would have to play TCU first
then their would be a 4 team playoff with Cincy, Iowa, BSU/TCU, and Florida/Alabama
that would be pretty awesome and functional
Two other format ideas could work-field would have to be 12 in order to give out 4 byes.
that's still too many teams getting in, that means any big time program with a tough schedule could lose 2 games and still have a shot at the le. that would ruin the regular season more than any of you realize.
if there was going to be a playoff system, it should IMO be provisional, and only for undefeated teams.
so in the case of 3 undefeated BCS teams, the 2 lower ranked teams play an elimination game first, or if there are 4 undefeated, an actual 4 team playoff
non-BCS conference teams should not get equal treatment, they would have to have their own elimination round first, and the winner of that can enter the BSC playoffs
so as it stands now, BSU would have to play TCU first
then their would be a 4 team playoff with Cincy, Iowa, BSU/TCU, and Florida/Alabama
that would be pretty awesome and functional
The FCS format:
You take 16 teams into the tourney. 11 of your bids would be automatically awarded to the conference champion. The remaining 5 are picked at large based on Record, SoS, whatever.
Once the 16 teams are chosen, the top four teams are seeded, and the pairings are chosen to eliminate major travel. No conference foes may meet in the opening round of the playoffs. The pairings are announced on the Sunday following the final games of the season. The first round of the tournement starts the following Saturday. The winners of the 8 opening round games meet in the Quarterfinals, those 4 winners meet in the semifinals. All these games are hosted by one of the two teams competing on the field that day, but the site is considered a NCAA host site. Ticket prices may be adjusted to the NCAA's liking, as they take a percentage of the revenue. The final two winners advance to the Championship game.
This format could be expanded to 24 if you really wanted to add more teams.
The D2 model:
Conferences are lumped into to 4 super regions. As the season progresses regional rankings come out based on W/L, SoS, OSoS, and other factors. At the end the top 6 teams in each region advance. #1 and #2 get first round byes, while #3 hosts #6 and #4 hosts #5. Games are played the higher seed.
The benefit of this is that you get to host more games, but if you have to travel most of your games are geographically close. The downside of course is that you never know where you are going from one day to the next. At least with the bowl system, you have a month to plan for one game. You can book your travel, lodging, and whatever with plenty of notice.
you still aren't getting how letting 16 teams into the playoffs would detract from the regular season. you can deny it, but that's just plain ignorance. college football thrives on every game being must-win. you absolutely can not throw that away.
No, college football thrives on rivalry and tradition. I would still be just as much into the Texas/A&M game even if it wouldn't make a difference in the post season.
Ever wonder why the playoff argument is passionately brought up with college football but the BCS style argument is never brought up with any sport on any level? BECAUSE WHEN COMPE ION IS CONCERNED THE BCS DOESN'T MAKE A BIT OF SENSE! It's ultimately a guessing game
when does this happen? I never hear anyone get passionate about it unless it's the fans of a team they think is getting screwed.
for the most part everyone likes the system, and the people invested in college football especially like it.
and how many times do I have to explain how College football isn't comparable to other sports? what other sport has 120 teams competing for a championship on a 12 game schedule with obscene disparity in the strength of schedules. and what other sport is as successful as college football anyways? college FB >>>>>>>>>>>>> college BB and it's tournament
the BCS works brilliantly if there are less than 3 undefeated teams, and actually, as time goes by, it will get harder and harder for anyone to go undefeated. the pool of talent grows, but the amount of colleges stays the same.
if there weren't more than 2 undefeated teams, what is your beef with the BCS? how does it fail?
edit: and college football does not thrive financially on rivalries, it thrives financially by being able to rope in the casual viewer every single week, and by making games important to fans of teams other than the 2 on the field. every game on TV on Saturday effects many other teams besides the 2 playing, and therefore draws many more viewers.
Last edited by vander; 11-02-2009 at 08:52 PM.
The BCS sucks ass. If the D-1A teams can do a playoff there is no reason that D-1 can't do it. The problem is that the BCS Bowls are paying off the NCAA executives. I'm sure of it. (and yes I know it isn't called D-1A or D-1 anymore...)
And then Texas, undefeated and left out of your scenario, es up a storm and ruins your system. I'm to the point that I think they should get the best teams from I-AA (and increase their scholarships) and put the non-BCS conferences with them and do a playoff. Like Texas 4A or something. That almost seems like the only way to really do this - it's completely unfair that Boise can assrape Oregon, run the table, and still not get a bid to the big game. Or that TCU can go on the road, rough up two ACC teams and beat a couple top 25 teams in their own conference and pray for an at-large.field would have to be 12 in order to give out 4 byes.
that's still too many teams getting in, that means any big time program with a tough schedule could lose 2 games and still have a shot at the le. that would ruin the regular season more than any of you realize.
if there was going to be a playoff system, it should IMO be provisional, and only for undefeated teams.
so in the case of 3 undefeated BCS teams, the 2 lower ranked teams play an elimination game first, or if there are 4 undefeated, an actual 4 team playoff
non-BCS conference teams should not get equal treatment, they would have to have their own elimination round first, and the winner of that can enter the BSC playoffs
so as it stands now, BSU would have to play TCU first
then their would be a 4 team playoff with Cincy, Iowa, BSU/TCU, and Florida/Alabama
that would be pretty awesome and functional
If I am TCU or Boise, I am all over the Cincy bandwagon. They may prove this system doesn't work if they run the table and get stuck playing Georgia Tech or something in the Forgettable Bowl.
The NFL and NCAA BB are not college football. And I didn't say no one would watch it.
This.
The mountain pictures are really nice. I also like the pictures with housing stock and Downtown in them. Boise looks like a city that has a great urban fabric despite not being on the national radar.
i smell a spammer
i had to drive through boise to get to seattle once.
worst ing city ive ever been in.
............does it matter? for gods sake we have a mythical champ now.
yeah the NY Giants were really the best team in football in 07/08............does it matter? for gods sake we have a mythical champ now.
football teams fluctuate from week to week, it's good that we have a system, with a human element, that takes the body of work from a whole season rather that throwing it away and saying that teams 1-8 or teams 1-16 are equal and putting them in a single elimination tournament.
on a side note, way to many teams get into the playoffs in the NFL, they need to cut the field in half, or 8 at the most. and those "divisions" what a joke, they need to cut those in half too, 4 divisions total, make winning a division mean something again.
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