nba commentator refers to yi jianlian as "the chinaman"

[iggypop123]

1 billion influence trust me they will force an apology

[mogrovejo]

Enough people that the people who don't know look like rubes.

The idea that if a majority thinks one way, the minorities look like rubes is just too asinine. And America is a tiny part of the world - this fact probably conflicts with your parochial ways, but it is what it is. And you still have to define what "enough people" is. Do you have a census? A poll? Or maybe it's you and your neighbours?

The people who get offended by it.

Crazy. Guys get offended because Manu knocked-out a bat. That's just metaphysical madness. In fact, if you're going to make egophany and self-sensitiveness the criterium, than it's easy to accuse you of falsely, unfairly and libelously accusing people of being racists and the game can be played forever.

[mogrovejo]

I can emphatize with the difficulties of knowing which phrase are racially sensitive and which are not. If we accept Irishman or Frenchman, why not Chinaman?

Why do you accept Frenchman? If some people think Frenchman is an offensive word, you should stop using it. How can you be sure that for some people Frenchman isn't an offensive word?

[wijayas]

Why do you accept Frenchman? If some people think Frenchman is an offensive word, you should stop using it. How can you be sure that for some people Frenchman isn't an offensive word?

You know when you travel wide and far enough...

[Kyle Orton]

Ballijuana is a know it all piece of .

[Allanon]

That sure is one angry asian dude.

I can see how gook, , nip, etc are offensive. But calling somebody from China a Chinaman?

Whatever, I sure as didn't know that was offensive...but I'm never politically correct anyways.

[balli]

The idea that if a majority thinks one way, the minorities look like rubes is just too asinine. And America is a tiny part of the world - this fact probably conflicts with your parochial ways, but it is what it is. And you still have to define what "enough people" is. Do you have a census? A poll? Or maybe it's you and your neighbours?

All I know is that the word "chinaman" is known in the cultural zeitgeist as a slanderous word. I'm sorry you hadn't caught wind of it. I have. Plenty of times. Chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.

And sorry, dumbass, I don't have hard polling data to back up what is and isn't a racial slur. It's called culture. You can start with wiki and urban dictionary if you're so uninformed.

Crazy. Guys get offended because Manu knocked-out a bat. That's just metaphysical madness. In fact, if you're going to make egophany and self-sensitiveness the criterium, than it's easy to accuse you of falsely, unfairly and libelously accusing people of being racists and the game can be played forever.

It's just very odd to me, like, your whole view on life. If I used a known racial slur, even if I didn't know it was such and somebody of such a race were offended by it, I'd say, "sorry." And I'd be sorry.

It's just very weird to me that your whole opinion is- how dare people get offended by the stupid and uninformed things I say about their race.

Ballijuana is a know it all piece of .

Better than a know-nothing, piece of .

[Fillmoe]

update me when someone calls him the big gookistotle

[IronMexican]

I know right? same thing with . Not all of us are mexican jeez

[Riverwalkman]

I‘m a Chinese, I do know Chinaman is considered a mean nomenclature, but to be honest, I don't quite know why it is and neither do I want to. I think if the commentator was just ignorance, I won't be pissed off.

[sabar]

I‘m a Chinese, I do know Chinaman is considered a mean nomenclature, but to be honest, I don't quite know why it is and neither do I want to. I think if the commentator was just ignorance, I won't be pissed off.

It is considered mean because 19th/20th century Americans used it as an insult, as if they were "below humans". I personally don't know how people do not know this. You don't have to watch much WW2/Korean War/Vietnam footage to realize that lots of GIs used it to describe ethic Asians as sub-human. The term as an insult predates those wars by a hundred years too.

Things are considered "wrong" based on their usage, not on whether or not people are offended by the term. Humanity has an obsession with assigning words to serve as insults to specific races. Sometimes the words don't make sense or seem innocuous, but it is what it is.

The commentator is a re .

[Bob Lanier]

Is it cool to call Mexican a " " if he really has a wet back?

Si?

[Riverwalkman]

It is considered mean because 19th/20th century Americans used it as an insult, as if they were "below humans". I personally don't know how people do not know this. You don't have to watch much WW2/Korean War/Vietnam footage to realize that lots of GIs used it to describe ethic Asians as sub-human. The term as an insult predates those wars by a hundred years too.

Things are considered "wrong" based on their usage, not on whether or not people are offended by the term. Humanity has an obsession with assigning words to serve as insults to specific races. Sometimes the words don't make sense or seem innocuous, but it is what it is.

The commentator is a re .

[ezau]

It is considered mean because 19th/20th century Americans used it as an insult, as if they were "below humans". I personally don't know how people do not know this. You don't have to watch much WW2/Korean War/Vietnam footage to realize that lots of GIs used it to describe ethic Asians as sub-human. The term as an insult predates those wars by a hundred years too.

Things are considered "wrong" based on their usage, not on whether or not people are offended by the term. Humanity has an obsession with assigning words to serve as insults to specific races. Sometimes the words don't make sense or seem innocuous, but it is what it is.

The commentator is a re .

Couldn't have said this any better

[flamingdts]

oh oh. Watch all of China bombard this board.

oh well - as long as they stop shipping us ty products. Believe I'm in the furniture industry and if you want children don't buy furniture made in china nobody knows what they put in there. Especially watch out for sofa's and mattresses; the foam is full of goodies.

You know that just basically shows how stupid you are. In fact, you're embarrassing your team's fan base with what you just said.

[AussieFanKurt]

such an irrelevant thread

[Obstructed_View]

I‘m a Chinese, I do know Chinaman is considered a mean nomenclature, but to be honest, I don't quite know why it is and neither do I want to. I think if the commentator was just ignorance, I won't be pissed off.

Strangely, if a broadcaster referred to someone from China as "a Chinese" they'd probably get in a lot of trouble. Do we need to send you to sensitivity training, too?

I used to live in Taiwan, and I honestly didn't know "Chinaman" was offensive until Steve Kerr said it and got into trouble. I simply thought it was kind of an outdated term to use, but wouldn't have thought it "offensive".

And from what I've heard from black people, I thought it wasn't racist if you were the minority? People should be able to say anything they want about the Chinese and it's just funny, right?

All that said, the commentator should have learned from the Kerr example. You really have to be ignorant to be an NBA broadcaster and NOT know about that incident.

[Riverwalkman]

Strangely, if a broadcaster referred to someone from China as "a Chinese" they'd probably get in a lot of trouble. Do we need to send you to sensitivity training, too?

I used to live in Taiwan, and I honestly didn't know "Chinaman" was offensive until Steve Kerr said it and got into trouble. I simply thought it was kind of an outdated term to use, but wouldn't have thought it "offensive".

And from what I've heard from black people, I thought it wasn't racist if you were the minority? People should be able to say anything they want about the Chinese and it's just funny, right?

All that said, the commentator should have learned from the Kerr example. You really have to be ignorant to be an NBA broadcaster and NOT know about that incident.

I don't know the history about Chinaman or Chinese, I simply judge people by what they act, friendly or unfriendly, that's enough for me. There is a Chinese idiom saying: The world is originally peaceful, but mediocre minds made it full of conflict.

[MiamiHeat]

Dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature.

shut the up donnie

[Obstructed_View]

There is a Chinese idiom saying: The world is originally peaceful, but mediocre minds made it full of conflict.

That's excellent! Committing that one to memory.

[Indazone]

I‘m a Chinese, I do know Chinaman is considered a mean nomenclature, but to be honest, I don't quite know why it is and neither do I want to. I think if the commentator was just ignorance, I won't be pissed off.

All one has to do is watch a few episodes of Kung Fu to know how the word was was used during the early days of America and the Chinese Laundrymen and railroad builders. In fact most Chinese were banned from holding down any other type of work.

http://sun.menloschool.org/~mbrody/u...exclusion_act/

[ElNono]

I've never heard of that word used as an insult... Learn something new everyday.

At least I know what to call Rogue now when he's being a ....

[wijayas]

It is considered mean because 19th/20th century Americans used it as an insult, as if they were "below humans". I personally don't know how people do not know this. You don't have to watch much WW2/Korean War/Vietnam footage to realize that lots of GIs used it to describe ethic Asians as sub-human. The term as an insult predates those wars by a hundred years too.

Things are considered "wrong" based on their usage, not on whether or not people are offended by the term. Humanity has an obsession with assigning words to serve as insults to specific races. Sometimes the words don't make sense or seem innocuous, but it is what it is.

The commentator is a re .

Well said Sabar....

[Whisky Dog]

Getting pissed only makes the negative connotation stronger. Just ignore it and it won't bother you.

[Kamnik]

that sure is one angry asian dude.

I can see how gook, , nip, etc are offensive. But calling somebody from china a chinaman?

Whatever, i sure as didn't know that was offensive...but i'm never politically correct anyways.

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