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    or the lack of available doctors.
    Sure. That's certainly the article's unsubstantiated claim.

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    there's already a serious shortage of primary care docs in many areas of the country, as they flee to the higher paying specialties, higher and higher pay being their primary motivation, not curing patients, which is a sometime side-effect.

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    there's already a serious shortage of primary care docs in many areas of the country, as they flee to the higher paying specialties, higher and higher pay being their primary motivation, not curing patients, which is a sometime side-effect.
    how do you propose to change that.

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    the shortage of doctors, and nurses, US compares very low in docs per 100K residents vs other countries, is another way the US medical system is ed up.

    The med schools and docs and professional associations will fight like to keep the doctor supply low, the barriers to entry and to providing medical care, high. It's in their financial interest, low supply is another upward pressure on higher costs.

    Like the entire ed up medical system, getting more docs trained, and more para-medicals trained, will be extremely complicated and expensive. ie, more costs.

    I don't have a solution.

    One way would be to import docs and nurses from overseas, but that already is hurting the delivery of health care in foreign countries.

    Another way would be to pay for patients to be sent where there aren't such shortages. Not in primary care of course, but in surgeries and major diseases.

    US has a superbly dysfunctional medical care system, NOT the best in the world.

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    how do you propose to change that.
    I bet it has nothing to do with the free market.

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    I bet it has nothing to do with the free market.
    These graphs are the free market at work...
    I guess we shouldn't do anything at all about it
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    the shortage of doctors, and nurses, US compares very low in docs per 100K residents vs other countries, is another way the US medical system is ed up.

    The med schools and docs and professional associations will fight like to keep the doctor supply low, the barriers to entry and to providing medical care, high. It's in their financial interest, low supply is another upward pressure on higher costs.

    Like the entire ed up medical system, getting more docs trained, and more para-medicals trained, will be extremely complicated and expensive. ie, more costs.

    I don't have a solution.

    One way would be to import docs and nurses from overseas, but that already is hurting the delivery of health care in foreign countries.

    Another way would be to pay for patients to be sent where there aren't such shortages. Not in primary care of course, but in surgeries and major diseases.

    US has a superbly dysfunctional medical care system, NOT the best in the world.
    When we can train our own people I don't see the point in bringing in doctors or nurses better to find away to attract and educate people here.Yes I know that the medical assocciations influence the number of people certified, but really they can only do this with the direct cooperation of the goverment.

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    So from the right's scramble to change the subject, we can conclude that the effect of tort reform on health costs is negligible.

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    These graphs are the free market at work...
    I guess we shouldn't do anything at all about it
    Do you have a link to that?

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    It's in Manny's OP @ "USA Health Care Costs".

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...20addition.pdf



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