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    http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido...ny-house-seat/

    BTW, Huffington Post just had an article yesterday pointing out the divisive, negative impact Sarah Palin has had on previous races.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shanny..._b_343116.html

    This is the best news of Election Day, IMO. More evidence that the Republican party has officially imploded, and Sarah Palin pulled the trigger.

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    This is the best news of Election Day, IMO. More evidence that the Republican party has officially imploded, and Sarah Palin pulled the trigger.
    Overblown, IMO.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/124010/Ge...2010-Vote.aspx

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    No, the biggest news of election day is:

    "All politics is local".

    What happened in NY has more to do with NY23 than Sarah Palin.

    What happened in Virginia and New Jersey has more to do with Virginia and New Jersey than it does Barrack Obama.

    This is going to remind all politicians of that truism; and they will act accordingly; since many are up for election (in their respective localities) one year from today. I think Americans are pissed, and no politician, Democrat OR Republican is particularly safe.

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    what is weird is that no one republican or dem is safe and yet independents just can't win.

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    what is weird is that no one republican or dem is safe and yet independents just can't win.
    Well, from what I gather the Conservative Party has won elections in that district before, but no Democrat has won that district for 100 years.

    Joe Lieberman won his re-election bid as an Independent. Jesse Ventura won his governorship on MN as an Independent. Mayor Bloomberg was elected in NYC as an Independent. Just to name a few...

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    Steele needs to be replaced.

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    no, the biggest news of election day is:

    "all politics is local".

    What happened in ny has more to do with ny23 than sarah palin.

    What happened in virginia and new jersey has more to do with virginia and new jersey than it does barrack obama.

    This is going to remind all politicians of that truism; and they will act accordingly; since many are up for election (in their respective localities) one year from today. I think americans are pissed, and no politician, democrat or republican is particularly safe.
    +1

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    oh and of course Bernie Sanders has been elected repeatedly in VT as a Socialist.

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    Steele needs to be replaced.
    Steele owes his job to Barack Obama. Does he not know he's Token Black Guy in the Repuglican Party?

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    Maybe the GOP has learned it needs to take its voters seriously. When you nominate an unpopular candidate in an undemocratic fashion, you risk a third party split and a Democratic victory.

    No matter what ended up happening in NY's 23rd, it's clear the local GOP bosses screwed the pooch.

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    "Might the media, with really very few other elections to cover, be stuffing one hundred thousand pounds of their bull into District 23's five-pound bag?"

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    Democrat won by a few percentage points over a guy no one heard of a couple weeks ago. That's quite a mandate.

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    The Best Of Both Worlds?


    Clearly, I overestimated Democratic power in New Jersey, which I assumed was more or less unbeatable despite Corzine’s low approval ratings and weak polling. The pick-ups in both gubernatorial races were impressive, and it seems to me that the scale of the win in Virginia was significant and not easily dismissed in a state that had been trending Democratic for the last several cycles. Even taking into account that Corzine had once trailed Christie by double digits, a statewide Republican win in New Jersey certainly signals dissatisfaction with the status quo at the state level. Certainly lower turnout favors the more mobilized party, and Republicans made the most of this today. Exit polling indicates that protest votes against Obama were more or less offset by support for him, but there appears to be much less enthusiasm on the Democratic side. Oddly enough, the one race in which there seems to have been overperformance in the Democratic effort was in the House special election that doesn’t have much significance.



    What is more encouraging to me is that the wins by Christie and McDonnell show that competent center-right candidates interested in governance and all those “parochial” local issues can tap into voter discontent and win electoral victories. Hoffman’s possible defeat suggests that campaigns dominated by the presence of national activists, empty sloganeering and indifference to local interests may not gain traction even in those districts that are traditionally inclined to favor the politics of someone like Hoffman. Those of us who would like to see Democratic domestic agendas thwarted without empowering the Palins of the world may have managed to get exactly the results we would wish to have.

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    Steele owes his job to Barack Obama. Does he not know he's Token Black Guy in the Repuglican Party?
    I suppose racism is alive and kicking in the USA

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    GOP Radicals? Are you serious? Hoffman was not a radical - he was a conservative. But I guess to the resident libs here that means radical. The radical was Scozzafava - a true liberal masquarading as a Republican. If you're going to act like a liberal, then join the democrat party!

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    GOP Radicals? Are you serious? Hoffman was not a radical - he was a conservative. But I guess to the resident libs here that means radical. The radical was Scozzafava - a true liberal masquarading as a Republican. If you're going to act like a liberal, then join the democrat party!
    You're so ing dumb. You think every politician, on either side, should be an extremist. And that is what you and Rush and Palin and Hoffman are- extremist, radical trash. And such a moron you don't even know it.

    I mean lol at people so ing dumb and spiteful that they cut off their own noses and then cheer about it.

    You think there aren't DINO's out there? You think moderates have no place in either of our parties? you crookshanks, see how well that works out for you... or America.

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    You're so ing dumb. You think every politician, on either side, should be an extremist. And that is what you and Rush and Palin and Hoffman are- extremist, radical trash. And such a moron you don't even know it.

    I mean lol at people so ing dumb and spiteful that they cut off their own noses and then cheer about it.

    You think there aren't DINO's out there? You think moderates have no place in either of our parties? you crookshanks, see how well that works out for you... or America.


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    I mean lol at people so ing dumb and spiteful that they cut off their own noses and then cheer about it.

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    Well, considering the democrat is more conservative than the republican, I'm OK with the results.

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    Well, considering the democrat is more conservative than the republican, I'm OK with the results.
    It's true - the radicals did help the democrat - but the radical was Scozzafava, not Hoffman.

    Also, her name and Owens name were on the ballot TWICE because they were endorsed by two different parties - and she got 5% of the vote. You think it might have turned out differently had she not been on the ballot?

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    Well, from what I gather the Conservative Party has won elections in that district before, but no Democrat has won that district for 100 years.

    Joe Lieberman won his re-election bid as an Independent. Jesse Ventura won his governorship on MN as an Independent. Mayor Bloomberg was elected in NYC as an Independent. Just to name a few...
    my point is that the dems and GOP are not in danger at all. there is no emergence of a third party on the horizon at all.

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    http://www.casavaria.com/cafesentido...ny-house-seat/

    BTW, Huffington Post just had an article yesterday pointing out the divisive, negative impact Sarah Palin has had on previous races.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shanny..._b_343116.html

    This is the best news of Election Day, IMO. More evidence that the Republican party has officially imploded, and Sarah Palin pulled the trigger.
    lol, this is why I am so thankful I saw the game for what it is and quickly got over it all.

    I'd hate to give a about this pointless garbage. It is extremely comical seeing how much hatred the americants have conjured up for Palin.

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    Mayor Bloomberg was elected in NYC as an Independent. Just to name a few...
    he ran as a republican.

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    Steele owes his job to Barack Obama. Does he not know he's Token Black Guy in the Repuglican Party?
    wow. you are a damn loon

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    According to Viguerie (who complained that dubya and head were too leftist), Repug party is now ALL teabaggers, so even center-right Repugs are to be purged.

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