No Gasol = Old Kobe

[da_suns_fan]

Hey, you're the one making a big deal out of .05.

It's impossible to put up 1.8 shots per game nitpicker.

You either put up 1 or 2 shots, you cannot put up 1.8. Which will it be?

And answer the question.

Sure weasel, he's shooting "about" two shots more per 36 minutes over his averages for the first four games last year. His assisst numbers are way down too.

And also remember his shooting percentage is WAY down while his teammates are shooting lights out.

Thus, the numbers say Kobe = .

[Allanon]

Sure weasel, he's shooting "about" two shots more per 36 minutes over his averages for the first four games last year. His assisst numbers are way down too.

And also remember his shooting percentage is WAY down while his teammates are shooting lights out.

Thus, the numbers say Kobe = .

Does a .05 "round up" cause a 1 or 2 shot variance in a REAL game?

It's simple as 1.8. There is NO such thing as 1.8 shots, dumb .

It's 1 shot not 2. You know this. Don't try to bring in other variables to cover up your stupidity.

So answer the question.

Does Kobe taking 1 shot more per 36 minutes while his 2nd best player is out make him "Old Kobe" again?

[da_suns_fan]

More?

Hollinger calculates Kobe's number one in usage rate, even ahead of Carmelo:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...seasonType%3d2

And Carmelo is shooting at a much better percentage as well.

Yep, the numbers continue to point to Kobe "just being Kobe".

[Allanon]

More?

Hollinger calculates Kobe is number one in usage rate, even ahead of Carmelo:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...seasonType%3d2

And Carmelo is shooting at a much better percentage as well.

Yep, the number continue to point to Kobe "just being Kobe".

Don't bring in this to cover your stupidity. You didn't look at his minutes when you made this thread .

Just trying to back track your way out.

You know...the Kobe that shoots thirty times a game and only passes as a last resort (which often results in a turnover).

Kobe is averaging 24 shots a game (two more than his closest compe or) and almost 12 free throws a game. Meanwhile, he has a 1:1 assist/turnover ratio.

So much for his "metamorphosis". He's still the same bag he always was.

Wow 1 whole shot more

[da_suns_fan]

Don't bring in this to cover your stupidity. You didn't look at his minutes when you made this thread .

Huh? Because I pointed out Kobe leads the league in shots taken means I cant also point out that he leads the league in "usage rate" as well?

Per minute or overall, Kobe is chucking it up!

And again, the worst part is he's doing it while his teammates are shooting so well.

[da_suns_fan]

Does a .05 "round up" cause a 1 or 2 shot variance in a REAL game?

It's simple as 1.8. There is NO such thing as 1.8 shots, dumb .

It's 1 shot not 2. You know this. Don't try to bring in other variables to cover up your stupidity.

So answer the question.

Does Kobe taking 1 shot more per 36 minutes while his 2nd best player is out make him "Old Kobe" again?

Id just like to point out that you rounded down from 1.8 to 1 when it was convenient and this was AFTER you rounded .55 to 6 (up) when it was convenient.

So your "shot is a shot" argument falls on deaf ears.

You got CAUGHT, weasel.

[Allanon]

Huh? Because I pointed out Kobe leads the league in shots taken means I cant also point out that he leads the league in "usage rate" as well?

Per minute or overall, Kobe is chucking it up!

And again, the worst part is he's doing it while his teammates are shooting so well.

Huh? Because I pointed out Kobe leads the league in shots taken means I cant also point out that he leads the league in "usage rate" as well?

Per minute or overall, Kobe is chucking it up!

And again, the worst part is he's doing it while his teammates are shooting so well.

No you weasel. Look at the thread you created.

No Gasol = Old Kobe

You rounded up 24 shots and made it into 30 then you nitpicked me for .05 rounding up. WTF kind of hypocrisy is this?

Kobe's shooting 1 more shot than he did with Gasol. Your argument has failed.

If you had a different thread le perhaps; but your argument is that Kobe without Gasol shoots 30 times.

It's right here. Don't try to back-track and weasel your way out

You know...the Kobe that shoots thirty times a game and only passes as a last resort (which often results in a turnover).

Kobe is averaging 24 shots a game (two more than his closest compe or) and almost 12 free throws a game. Meanwhile, he has a 1:1 assist/turnover ratio.

So much for his "metamorphosis". He's still the same bag he always was.

[Baseline]

Last time I checked, Kobe was getting bounced in the first round (or missing the playoffs all together) before Gasol came around.

Da_Suns_Fan is right on the mark.

What has Bryant ever done without Shaquille or Gasol? Nothing.

He even missed the playoffs entirely one year. That's truly impressive.

[da_suns_fan]

No you weasel. Look at the thread you created.

No Gasol = Old Kobe

You rounded up 24 shots and made it into 30 then you nitpicked me for .05 rounding up. WTF kind of hypocrisy is this?

Kobe's shooting 1 more shot than he did with Gasol. Your argument has failed.

If you had a different thread le perhaps; but your argument is that Kobe without Gasol shoots 30 times.

It's right here. Don't try to back-track and weasel your way out

Sorry pal, but Kobe IS shooting 30 shots a game. See...I figured that number from his fields goals plus his free throws...it was my best guess estimate, and easily a lot more than last year. And thats not the same as you trying to prove theres no change in Kobe by conveniently rounding numbers (TWICE) to hide the fact that he's shooting two more times than he was at this point last year (which is stupid considering he played 81 games with Gasol and hes shooting much more right now than he did for the season last year).

Now...would you prefer "AllaWeasel" or "Weasellon"?

[Allanon]

Id just like to point out that you rounded down from 1.8 to 1 when it was convenient and this was AFTER you rounded .55 to 6 (up) when it was convenient.

So your "shot is a shot" argument falls on deaf ears.

You got CAUGHT, weasel.

Not at all dumb_suns_fan.

You can round that .6 if you like. It doesn't change a thing.

You can't shoot 1.8 shots in a game. Either 1 or 2.

So answer the question.

Does Kobe shooting 1 extra shot per game with his 2nd best player out make him "Old Kobe" again?

[da_suns_fan]

Not at all dumb_suns_fan.

You can round that .6 if you like. It doesn't change a thing.

You can't shoot 1.8 shots in a game. Either 1 or 2.

So answer the question.

Does Kobe shooting 1 extra shot per game with his 2nd best player out make him "Old Kobe" again?

No, shooting two more shots per 36 minutes while shooting a much worse percentage and averaging less assists and more turnovers and leading the league in usage rate despite all this makes him "the old Kobe".

Or is it just "Kobe". See, I believe he really never "changed". I think the Lakers just go through Gasol more to hide Kobe's selfish decision making.

[Allanon]

No, shooting two more shots per 36 minutes while shooting a much worse percentage and averaging less assists and more turnovers and leading the league in usage rate despite all this makes him "the old Kobe".

Or is it just "Kobe". See, I believe he really never "changed". I think the Lakers just go through Gasol more to hide Kobe's selfish decision making.

Again where is this 2 shots?

You said 1.8. How does 1.8 become 2? There is no such thing as .8 of a shot. That is 1 extra shot.

Answer the question dude, I've asked 4 times.

"Does Kobe shooting 1 extra shot per game with his 2nd best player out make him "Old Kobe" again?"

[da_suns_fan]

Again where is this 2 shots?

You said 1.8. How does 1.8 become 2? There is no such thing as .8 of a shot. That is 1 extra shot.

Answer the question dude, I've asked 4 times.

"Does Kobe shooting 1 extra shot per game with his 2nd best player out make him "Old Kobe" again?"

Ive answered you like three times AllaWeasel.

You cant shoot 1.8 shots, but 1.8 means you USUALLY shoot two and on occasion, shoot 1. But USUALLY, its two (by a long shot). Thus, claiming that he's shooting one more time a game is disingenuous. Very weasel like. Also, youre picking out four games of last year versus the 81 games he played with Gasol.

And I dont care if the second best player is out considering Andrew Bynum is shooting 57% and Odom is shootig 48% while he's shooting 42%. Its inexcusable. PASS THE BALL, KOBE!!

[Allanon]

Ive answered you like three times AllaWeasel.

You cant shoot 1.8 shots, but 1.8 means you USUALLY shoot two and on occasion, shoot 1. But USUALLY, its two (by a long shot). Thus, claiming that he's shooting one more time a game is disingenuous. Very weasel like.

And I dont care if the second best player is out considering Andrew Bynum is shooting 57% and Odom is shootig 48%. while he's shooting 42%. Its inexcusable. PASS THE BALL, KOBE!!

You are delusional because you have answered 0 times . This ain't a trick question. It's a simple yes or no you can even answer A or B.

"Does Kobe shooting 1 extra shot per game with his 2nd best player out make him "Old Kobe" again?"

A. YES
B. NO

[da_suns_fan]

You are delusional because you have answered 0 times . This ain't a trick question. It's a simple yes or no you can even answer A or B.

"Does Kobe shooting 1 extra shot per game with his 2nd best player out make him "Old Kobe" again?"

A. YES
B. NO

Does Kobe shooting TWO more times per 36 minutes over his first four games last year and even more times per game versus the 81 games last year even though he's not shooting well and his teammates are and he's turning it over at a ridiculous rate make him the "Old Kobe"?

I say a resounding "YES". Thats why I started this thread!

[Allanon]

I'm too much of a punk to admit I was wrong

I knew your little ass was a punk. Can't even answer a simple question.

Anybody reading this thread can see this.

[da_suns_fan]

Well, Im done for the day.

We've learned something today about AllaWeasel. He will conveniently round numbers on per minute basis to help his argument.

Not QUITE as bad as when Monos changed a quote from seven seconds or less or the time he added in a story that didnt exist in the same book, but close.

[Allanon]

Well, Im done for the day.

We've learned something today about AllaWeasel. He will conveniently round numbers on per minute basis to help his argument.

Not QUITE as bad as when Monos changed a quote from seven seconds or less or the time he added in a story that didnt exist in the same book, but close.

Hahah. yes, run away little punk.

This is just too easy.

ps. there's no such thing as .8 of a shot in a REAL game

[da_suns_fan]

I knew your little ass was a punk. Can't even answer a simple question.

Anybody reading this thread can see this.

Im not the one claiming .55 = .6 or 1.8 = 1.

[Allanon]

Im not the one claiming .55 = .6 or 1.8 = 1.

ps. Tell David Stern to implement an additional .8 of a shot into the game

Then get back to me punk

[Allanon]

What? No extra .8 of a shot David Stern?

B-B-But dumb_suns_fan says that there is such a thing.

Where are you dumb_suns_fan? Tucked 'yer tail and ran?

lol .8 of a shot
lol 1 shot more makes Kobe a ballhog

[cobbler]

Last time I checked, Kobe was getting bounced in the first round (or missing the playoffs all together) before Gasol came around.

Players do not win or lose championships. Teams do. Show me one shread of evidence that a single player won without support from his #2 etc.

Kobe is a volume shooter. It's not breaking news. Kobe is arrogant. Again, nothing new here. The majority of superstars are. And it is also nothing new to see a Laker or Kobe hater tossing out meaningless and ignorant posts like yours above. All that matters is which TEAM wins the championship. I dont care if they put 11 all stars on the team with Kobe as long as they win the le. How many les has Nash won with or without Shaq? With or without Amare? Does it matter? What matters is... and I am sure you feel the pain... the Suns are 0 for life. Keep on hatin.





Last night

Fish - 8 shots
Artest - 11
Odom - 12
Bynum - 15
Bryant - 25

Kobe forced a few, granted... but the shot distribution teamwise is not that absurd.

[Allanon]

Seriously, though no more insults from me da_suns_fan. This is just going to degenerate into you talking about my dad and me talking about your mom. I know this and you know this.

You should have just left it alone and I would have too. But you decided to come back and throw insults instead. Even your supporters can't back you up on this; they are reasonable.

And I'm going to be reasonable too, I'm done.

[carrao45]

Bynum deserves more shots.

And the Lakers deserve more Defense and Rebounding from Bynum...

[cobbler]

Sorry pal, but Kobe IS shooting 30 shots a game. See...I figured that number from his fields goals plus his free throws...it was my best guess estimate, and easily a lot more than last year. And thats not the same as you trying to prove theres no change in Kobe by conveniently rounding numbers (TWICE) to hide the fact that he's shooting two more times than he was at this point last year (which is stupid considering he played 81 games with Gasol and hes shooting much more right now than he did for the season last year).

Now...would you prefer "AllaWeasel" or "Weasellon"?

Gotta laugh at the irony of Suns fan getting all over Allanon for rounding a % that lead to +/- of one shot.... then estimates total shots based on free thows. If you miss the shot and are fouled.... it's not a shot. That is fact.

Did you ever consider all the free throws Kobe gets while in the penalty? At the end of games when dribbling out the clock only to get fouled and sent to the line? No shots were taken. Im sure though, since you are so pissy about a half shot... that you must have calculated this in your estimate!