Shooting at FT. Hood

[tlongII]

This is a list of designated terrorist organizations by national governments and inter-governmental organizations, where the proscription has a significant impact on the group's activities. Many organizations that are accused of being a terrorist organization deny using terrorism as a military tactic to achieve their goals, and there is no international consensus on the legal definition of terrorism.

This listing does not include states or governmental organizations, which are considered under state terrorism, or unaffiliated individuals accused of terrorism, which are considered under lone wolf terrorism. This list also excludes groups that might be widely considered terrorist, but who are not officially so designated according to the criteria specified above.

Abu Nidal Organization
Abu Sayyaf Group
Achik National Volunteer Council
Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj
Al-Aqsa e.V.
Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
Al-Badr
Al Ghurabaa
al-Haramain Foundation
Al Ittihad Al Islamia
al-Qa'ida
al-Qa'ida in Iraq
al-Qaeda Organization in the Islamic Maghreb
Al-Umar-Mujahideen
All Tripura Tiger Force
Ansar al-Islam
Ansar us-Sunna
Armed Islamic Group
Asbat al-Ansar
Aum Shinrikyo
Babbar Khalsa
Babbar Khalsa International
Baluchistan Liberation Army
Communist Party of India (Maoist)
Communist Party of the Philippines/
New People's Army
Continuity Irish Republican Army
ann na mBan
Deendar Anjuman
Dukhtaran-E-Millat
Egyptian Islamic Jihad
Euskadi ta Askatasuna
Fatah al-Islam
Fianna na hEireann
Gama'a al-Islamiyya
GRAPO
Great Eastern Islamic Raiders' Front
Hamas [1] [2]
Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami
Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami (Bangladesh)
Harakat ul-Mujahidin
Harakat-Ul-Mujahideen/Alami
Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin
Hezbollah [3] [4]
Hizb ut-Tahrir
Hizbul Mujahideen
Holy Land Foundation
for Relief and Development
Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council
Informal Anarchist Federation[5]
International Sikh Youth Federation
Islamic Army of Aden
Islamic Jihad — Jamaat of the Mujahideen
Islamic Jihad Union
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Irish National Liberation Army
Irish People's Liberation Organisation
Irish Republican Army
Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan
Jaish-e-Mohammed
Jamaat ul-Furquan
Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen Bangladesh
Jamiat ul-Ansar
Jamiat-e Islami
Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front
Jemaah Islamiya
Jund Ash Sham
Kach/Kahane Chai
Kanglei Yaol Kanba Lup
Kangleipak Communist Party
Khalistan Commando Force
Khuddam ul-Islam
Kurdistan Freedom Falcons
Kurdistan Workers' Party
Lashkar-e-Toiba
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam [6] [7]
Libyan Islamic Fighting Group
Loyalist Volunteer Force
Manipur People's Liberation Front
Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group
Mujahedin-e Khalq [8]
Muslim Brotherhood
National Democratic Front of Bodoland
National Liberation Army
National Liberation Front of Tripura
Nuclei Armati per il Comunismo
Nuclei di Iniziativa Proletaria
Nuclei Territoriali Antimperialisti
Nucleo di Iniziativa Proletaria Rivoluzionaria
Orange Volunteers
Palestine Liberation Front
Palestinian Islamic Jihad
People's Congress of Ichkeria and Dagestan [9]
People's Liberation Army
People's Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-
General Command
Real IRA
Red Brigades for the construction
of the Combative Communist Party
Red Hand Commando
Red Hand Defenders
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia
Revolutionary Nuclei
Revolutionary Organization 17 November
Revolutionary People's Front
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front
Revolutionary Struggle
Saor Éire
Saviour Sect
Shining Path[10]
Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan
Social Reform Society
Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage
Stichting Al Aqsa
Students Islamic Movement of India
Supreme Military Majlis ul-Shura of the United Mujahideen Forces of Caucasus [9]
Takfir wal-Hijra
Taliban
Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi
Tamil Nadu Liberation Army
Tamil National Retrieval Troops
Ulster Defence Association
Ulster Freedom Fighters
Ulster Volunteer Force
United Liberation Front of Asom
United National Liberation Front
United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia
Vanguards of Conquest
World Tamil Movement

[tlongII]

Obviously the list above is not exclusively limited to muslim terrorists groups, but it is clear that they are the vast majority.

[MannyIsGod]

Numbers of groups are not numbers of terrorists like you brought up earlier. Please do not move the goalposts YOU erected. And what cons utes a "vast majority"? I see quite a large percentage of groups on that list that have nothing to do with Muslims.

[mFFL03]

I've heard some reports that he maybe pulled this stunt to avoid being deployed.

I don't buy that.....if he wanted to not be deployed he could have just pulled a plaxico.

[makedamnsure]

um.....anyways....my prayers are with those affected by this tragedy.

[MiamiHeat]

i am sorry for the families but i don't want to hear this anymore.

so i'm out of this thread and will be ignoring all news of this incident.

[tlongII]

Numbers of groups are not numbers of terrorists like you brought up earlier. Please do not move the goalposts YOU erected. And what cons utes a "vast majority"? I see quite a large percentage of groups on that list that have nothing to do with Muslims.

That is a weak counter-argument Manny! It is logical to infer that the number of groups is relevant to the number of individuals.

[MannyIsGod]

That is a weak counter-argument Manny! It is logical to infer that the number of groups is relevant to the number of individuals.

Then prove it? Its not even a counter argument, so maybe thats why its so "weak". It simply points out that you haven't done what you said.

But like I said, if its so logical then you will be able to easily prove it.

I eagerly await your data.

[tlongII]

Then prove it? Its not even a counter argument, so maybe thats why its so "weak". It simply points out that you haven't done what you said.

But like I said, if its so logical then you will be able to easily prove it.

I eagerly await your data.

Orly? I said that the vast majority of terrorist groups were Muslim and I think that is obvious. I already gave you the data.

[tlongII]

Or maybe you want some sort of written proof that Al Queda is muslim?

[Texas Chili Dog]

They reported this guy is still alive. So why did they tell us he was dead for the last several hours?!

[Viva Las Espuelas]

um.....anyways

yeah. Times infinity plus 1.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

They reported this guy is still alive. So why did they tell us he was dead for the last several hours?!

That's the weird part. All the news people were wearing pie on their face. Maybe an attempt to see what his accomplices would do if he had any. Who knows.

[ploto]

U.S. Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is believed to be the lone shooter of some 43 people on Fort Hood, Texas, and he survived being shot by a civilian police officer, the base commander said.

In a televised press briefing tonight, Army Lt Gen. Robert Cone corrected earlier reports that said Hasan and the police officer, who shot him several times, were killed. Rather, he said, both are recovering at a nearby hospital.

All but two of the victims are Soldiers, Cone said.

Cone confirmed the iden y of Hasan, reportedly a psychiatrist on the base who was scheduled soon to deploy, but would not say more about the suspect. Hasan has been in the company of a Criminal Investigative Division officer since the midday shooting, he said.

In answer to a reporter's question, Cone said of the suspect, "I would say his death is not imminent." Hasan is not yet talking to investigators.

Three other Soldiers were initially detained for questioning, but later released. After interviewing more than 100 people at the scene, Cone said, investigators determined there was only one shooter.

While investigators haven't ruled out terrorism in the case, Cone said, the evidence doesn't suggest it.

The shooting began about 1:30 Central Time at Hood's Soldier Family Readiness Center where Cone said Soldiers from multiple units were crowded into the center for a scheduled weekly "make up time" for medical and dental appointments.

Casualties were high due to the enclosed location, but would have been much worse were it not for the training and quick reaction of the Soldiers, Cone said, adding that he was on the scene quickly after the shooting began.

"Suffice it to say...the American Soldier did a great job," he said.

From the reports of eyewitnesses, he said, the Soldiers - "many of them combat lifesavers" -- reacted instantaneously, ripping off parts of their own clothing to treat the wounded.

"I credit the first responders," he said. "God bless these Soldiers and Department of Army civilians. As horrible as this was, it could have been much worse."

Some 600 people attending a college graduation of 138 Soldiers in an adjacent building were unharmed because first responders secured the building, he said.

The suspect is believed to have used two handguns in the shooting, one a semiautomatic, Cone said. And in responding to a question, "As a matter of practice, we do not carry weapons on Fort Hood," he said. "This is our home."

However, Cone said, "We will increase our security presence here in the coming days."

The FBI is working the investigation, along with military and other law enforcement, he said. The base was on lockdown until 7 p.m., a base spokesman said.

For now, Cone said, Fort Hood officials are focused on caring for the wounded, securing the base, notifying victims' families and providing grief counseling. A family hotline is available to obtain information at 254-288-7570.

Cone, who received a call from President Barack Obama soon after the shooting, said he was grateful for an outpouring of support. "It is truly overwhelming the offers of support we have had from around the nation," the general said. "Tomorrow at Fort Hood, we return to normalcy, schools will be open."

The Central Texas base is the military's largest, covering some 340 square miles and is home to 40,000 Soldiers. And, according to its Web site, is known as "The Great Place" for its quality of life for Soldiers and their families.

http://www.army.mil/-news/2009/11/06...hood-shooting/

[MannyIsGod]

How many non-Arabic terrorists are you aware of?

Do you want to do a count of Arabic/Muslim terrorists vs others?

Orly? I said that the vast majority of terrorist groups were Muslim and I think that is obvious. I already gave you the data.

No Tlong, you moved the goalposts. At the start you didn't even say Muslim terrorists, you say non-Arabic. Then you grouped them together (Arab and Muslim are too completely different things). Now you're talking about GROUPS.

[MannyIsGod]

Also - go ahead and go through your list there. Out of the 129 you have listed, I Know at least 45 or so are not Muslim and I suspect there are about another 10 or so that have Indian names and are probably not Muslim. Out of the ones that are Muslim, there are also some ing charities on there (I believe one is even based in the United States) so I think their inclusion is rather suspect.

You may barely make a case for a majority, but I don't know how you can make a cast for a "vast" majority (which you never qualified to begin with - what is it again?).

Did you look at the list and see a bunch of funny sounding names and just assume they were all Islamic?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

From the story above:

While investigators haven't ruled out terrorism in the case, Cone said, the evidence doesn't suggest it.

So, Twank, why exactly did you bring up terrorism in relation to this case in the first place? Clearly because the guy who perpetrated the crime has an Islamic-sounding name. All your justifying posts since then have merely been covering your arse for your blatant xenophobia.