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    listen people !! its a brand ing new team!! be hard on the old guys they should know better! as far as the new ones give em a break, by the fifteenth game if we play this poorly then i will be worried!! and as far aas trading yes it would be nice to get a camby kinda guy but pop needs to step up and figure out the rotation, theres alot of kinks to be worked out and by kinks i mean on the court (real nba play),not just because we had 4 days off. ill say even 20 games mark my words! do you actually think pop is going to continue to let his team play like this? tim duncan isnt going out like this! come on spurs fans lets project positive and quit acting like were in cali

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    So would you rather look at RJ's line of 14-3-3 on 5/9 shooting? Pretty respectable except for the fact that he was a sieve on the defensive end which doesn't show up in a regular box score.
    You're forgetting about the nine other players on the court. RJ's defense by itself doesn't explain his +/-.

    +/- is one of the most misleading stats out there, especially when considering one game.

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    Why not? It's a good measurement for how a player performed on a given night. I'm not claiming RJ, Duncan, Manu, and McDyess are the worst players on the team, I'm just saying they did not have a good game, especially RJ.
    Fail.

    It's a measurement of how all 10 players performed while said player was on the court. Theres far too many co-dependent variables involved to use it in this fashion.

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    we could panic all day, the best thing to do is think positive because everything we notice pop notices x10 that its right in front of him, hes a step ahead of us, and im sure he has an idea of what he needs to do

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    that we need Elson back and KT's googly eyes.

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    Fail.

    It's a measurement of how all 10 players performed while said player was on the court. Theres far too many co-dependent variables involved to use it in this fashion.
    You're right. Like all statistics in a team sport (as opposed to baseball), +/- is dependent on the other players involved in the game. In this case, RJ, the player with the third-most minutes on the Spurs tonight (after TD and Tony), while playing usually against the A-team of the Jazz and frequently along with TD, Manu, and TP was outscored. I agree that usually +/- is a poor indicator when looking at just one player for just one game but my point was to compare our best players against the Jazz' best players. That's why I put multiple players' +/- in my post. They wiped the floor with us and everyone who watched the game saw that when our A-team was on the court, our team defense was poor and RJ's man defense was not good. DeJuan and Tony played very well, the rest of the team was pretty lousy. That's all I'm trying to say and that's why I used the +/- to illustrate my point.

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    i actually do think the spurs need a legitimate perimeter stopper.
    We had one..

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    But he fits in so well with the spurs system. And now he's not on a bad team (lol, actually he still is) he can concentrate on playing defense and score when necessary

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    But he fits in so well with the spurs system. And now he's not on a bad team (lol, actually he still is) he can concentrate on playing defense and score when necessary
    LOL so now this is a bad team? Are you serious?

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    But he fits in so well with the spurs system. And now he's not on a bad team (lol, actually he still is) he can concentrate on playing defense and score when necessary
    the guy whos team just gave away a game to a really weak hornets team!!bahaha

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    I hate Spurs fans.
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    the guy whos team just gave away a game to a really weak hornets team!!bahaha
    The guy who's team just gave away a game to a really weak Jazz team!! bahaha

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    The guy who's team just gave away a game to a really weak Jazz team!! bahaha
    lmao bolding fail

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    But he fits in so well with the spurs system. And now he's not on a bad team (lol, actually he still is) he can concentrate on playing defense and score when necessary
    4 games...Lets bring up the destruction of the Mavs by the Wizards, or the pure ass beating they were taking up until a few minutes in the fourth of the Utah game...Its basketball...Its where happens...We win, we lose....It is very early on.

    I swear the baggery that goes on around here. Half of you ing Spurs fans are just as bad. I am a little worried too, but damn its only four games. Give it time.

    I too saw the game tonight where we had little to no defense, terrible rotations, disgusting chemistry, no offensive vision, and pure lights out bad shooting. It was one of those nights. I am only worried at the fact that those are two of "those nights" in the first four games. But again, it is still early...give it a rest for about 10-20 games...then start ing es.


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    Durr Hurr

    Richard Jefferson fail.

    Remembah when he was a better pickup than Shawn Marion?

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    4 games...Lets bring up the destruction of the Mavs by the Wizards, or the pure ass beating they were taking up until a few minutes in the fourth of the Utah game...Its basketball...Its where happens...We win, we lose....It is very early on.

    I swear the baggery that goes on around here. Half of you ing Spurs fans are just as bad. I am a little worried too, but damn its only four games. Give it time.

    I too saw the game tonight where we had little to no defense, terrible rotations, disgusting chemistry, no offensive vision, and pure lights out bad shooting. It was one of those nights. I am only worried at the fact that those are two of "those nights" in the first four games. But again, it is still early...give it a rest for about 10-20 games...then start ing es.


    u mad

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    It hurts so much.....

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    Durr Hurr

    Richard Jefferson fail.

    Remembah when he was a better pickup than Shawn Marion?
    lol I do. It lasted all of 1 game.

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    Asking or telling? Question or statement?

    But to answer, I am completely sane and I am not angry.

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    bowen is 38. can't live in the past.

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    listen yes the spurs sucked tonight, im just saying quit acting like your freakin team is undefeated, if the regular season meant rings you guys probably wait a minute... would still only have two, but anyway its about a larger picture something mark cuban has never thought about. and i would much rather be beaten by a well played jazz, and bulls team then to lose to the wizards, and a crappy hornets team. dirk can put up big numbers every year and your weak ass team still doesnt finish

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    listen yes the spurs sucked tonight, im just saying quit acting like your freakin team is undefeated, if the regular season meant rings you guys probably wait a minute... would still only have two, but anyway its about a larger picture something mark cuban has never thought about. and i would much rather be beaten by a well played jazz, and bulls team then to lose to the wizards, and a crappy hornets team. dirk can put up big numbers every year and your weak ass team still doesnt finish
    I realize you're new to being a spurfan and want to make a good impression, but slow down and try to type something other than a wall of words.

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    oh and mark my words were going to beat you on friday so i would get all your talking in before your too late

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    the guy whos team just gave away a game to a really weak hornets team!!bahaha
    That one too...

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    I realize you're new to being a spurfan and want to make a good impression, but slow down and try to type something other than a wall of words.
    ive been going to games since the hemisphere! i dont need anyones approval here, im a spurs fan regardless of posts kid

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