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  1. #26
    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    Ooops...D-Fish is a great person....
    the good ones don't cheapshot people

  2. #27
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    I would have to say Yao.
    He's pretty sweet bent over for everybody sans the Lakers. At that point he rises up quite splendidly.

  3. #28
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    Are you gay? Are you really a Celtics fans?

    And LOL at this:

    Tim Duncan is the #21 for the Spurs always waving his arms like a little girl and grumbling about the refs when getting back to defence, not that guy you're thinking about.

    Btw, your sig is pathetic. I loved 80s basketball and still do, but the laziest D-League team these days has more defensive intensity than those guys.
    It's pretty dumb to reduce defense to just intensity. Ofc maybe you are a kg fan....
    Anywats, go watch some ball 80s ball kid. Defense is not about blocks/steals. That's espn defense with it's "intensity". Real defense is about contesting every shot, not getting complacent, and playing SMART while being physical enough as not to foul. That's real intensity.. keeping your cool not going for the highlight block/steal. A smart hard foul, a charge etc... but those won't come up on espn.


    @text highlited: how many banners do they have there? I guess they have so many that they don't even show them anymore.

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    Geez, why are the other Celtics fans here so apologetic and sissified about the Cs here? It's like they want to be accepted or some and feel like they have to fit into the narrative built by the Lakers fans/KG haters here.

    Hey kid, Larry Bird was a meaner, cheaper, evil SOB in 1 day of his life than all the guys in the current roster putted together for their entire lifes and you have him in your sig.

  5. #30
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    Are you gay? Are you really a Celtics fans?
    do you really want me to rant about your orientation? or your mom? .. i thought so.

  6. #31
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    the good ones don't cheapshot people

    .4 Baby!


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    Defense is all about intensity chest pounds. Everyone knows that.

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    Geez, why are the other Celtics fans here so apologetic and sissified about the Cs here? It's like they want to be accepted or some and feel like they have to fit into the narrative built by the Lakers fans/KG haters here.

    Hey kid, Larry Bird was a meaner, cheaper, evil SOB in 1 day of his life than all the guys in the current roster putted together for their entire lifes and you have him in your sig.

    You just don't seem to understand that i never implied what you say and i know very well how larry played. The fact that you are unable to read any of my posts in which i have stated more than once that i DO NOT like our moral quality as a team should be obvious... kid.

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    It's pretty dumb to reduce defense to just intensity. Ofc maybe you are a kg fan....
    Anywats, go watch some ball 80s ball kid. Defense is not about blocks/steals. That's espn defense with it's "intensity". Real defense is about contesting every shot, not getting complacent, and playing SMART while being physical enough as not to foul. That's real intensity.. keeping your cool not going for the highlight block/steal. A smart hard foul, a charge etc... but those won't come up on espn.

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    @text highlited: how many banners do they have there? I guess they have so many that they don't even show them anymore.
    LOL

    Newsflash: actually blocks have been declining a lot since the 80s, kid. I don't even watch ESPN, by intensity I mean actually playing defence. If you had actually watched a single game from the 80s, you'd see the difference is quite apparent. Contesting every shot? Are you crazy? They wouldn't contest half of the shots.

    What banners are you talking about? There where?

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    You just don't seem to understand that i never implied what you say and i know very well how larry played. The fact that you are unable to read any of my posts in which i have stated more than once that i DO NOT like our moral quality as a team should be obvious... kid.
    Why do you say I'm unable to read your posts? I understand you do not like the "moral quality" of the team, whatever that means.

    What was the last Celtics team of which you liked the moral quality?

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    do you really want me to rant about your orientation? or your mom? .. i thought so.
    So, you're a ? That explains a lot.

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    LOL

    Newsflash: actually blocks have been declining a lot since the 80s, kid. I don't even watch ESPN, by intensity I mean actually playing defence. If you had actually watched a single game from the 80s, you'd see the difference is quite apparent. Contesting every shot? Are you crazy? They wouldn't contest half of the shots.

    What banners are you talking about? There where?
    The banners in the d-league smart ass.. i was saying if they play such a great defensive game they should have banners just as us who won those games by playing good d, but that's impossible 'cause there are no banners in the d-league.... hope you appreciate a explained and did not call you a (insert expletive here) just for fun.

    Blocks have been declining alot because defense has been declining alot: the majority of good blocks are positional not spectacular. Few people block positionally (ex tim duncan). Furthermore, most blocks are now fouls to the likes of dwades lebron kobes, since the jordan rules of superstars now apply to all. So your argument is null and void.

    I did not say they contested every shot, though they did it more than you see it today at many teams. Also contesting shots is just a part of the defensive game. You contest plays(i'd love to see that in the game right now etc). You foul. You rotate. etc. basics... those basics lack much more now than back then, hence that's what i mean with defensive basketball.

    All your arguments have been proved null.

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    Why do you say I'm unable to read your posts? I understand you do not like the "moral quality" of the team, whatever that means.

    What was the last Celtics team of which you liked the moral quality?

    do i have to like the moral quality to appreciate ball?

  14. #39
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    So, you're a ? That explains a lot.
    you're as smart as they can be.

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    The banners in the d-league smart ass.. i was saying if they play such a great defensive game they should have banners just as us who won those games by playing good d, but that's impossible 'cause there are no banners in the d-league.... hope you appreciate a explained and did not call you a (insert expletive here) just for fun.
    Of course they have banners in the D-League. They play a great defensive game for the standards of the NBA 25 years ago.

    Blocks have been declining alot because defense has been declining alot:
    LOL. You were the one saying that defence is not about getting blocks (and it isn't).

    Defence hasn't been declining. Anyone who says that is just trolling or knows nothing about the league.

    the majority of good blocks are positional not spectacular. Few people block positionally (ex tim duncan). Furthermore, most blocks are now fouls to the likes of dwades lebron kobes, since the jordan rules of superstars now apply to all. So your argument is null and void.
    What? I've attended lots of workshops, I've read many basketball books, seen many videos, I've played the game, coached it, but I never heard of that distinction between positional and spectacular blocks. Why can't a "positional block" be spectacular? What's a block that isn't positional? Or a "positional block"? Do you mean weakside blocks vs. blocks got playing on-the-ball defence?

    I did not say they contested every shot, though they did it more than you see it today at many teams.
    It's not even close. Seriously, just watch a game. Players today are just bigger, faster, can play quasi-zones, coaches are more prepared, scouting is much more advanced.

    Also contesting shots is just a part of the defensive game. You contest plays(i'd love to see that in the game right now etc). You foul. You rotate. etc. basics... those basics lack much more now than back then, hence that's what i mean with defensive basketball.
    Stop with the cliches already. They don't make you look smart. There's nothing more boring than guys complaining about the like of fundamentals and defence of today's game. Do you also think players can't shoot FTs these days because they lack fundamentals and are lazy bas s?

    All your arguments have been proved null.

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    that nobody cares about forum

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    Especially a Boston guy. I can see a Spurs guy ruminating over it though.

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    How does one eve think of like this, "I wonder if these players are morally righteous."
    Par for the course here. Your ability for higher thought ends at Purple and Gold = Los Angeles.

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    Especially a Boston guy. I can see a Spurs guy ruminating over it though.


    Certainly not a Lakers guy either......

  20. #45
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    As long as I'm winning, kid.
    Touche.

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    Are you talking on court morality or off court morality?

    Cuz huge difference, on court jackass can be model citizens, see bruce bowen for a model of that idea.

    Also what is the basis of morality?

    Just because they are being covered as the good guys of sports don't make them saintly.

    For example, if your basis of a moral person is someone who doesn't cheat on their wife, then your going to find a short list of that, as almost all NBA players cheat at one point, 30 different cities, thousand pussies per city, the chance of most NBA players cheating on their wife or girlfriend is huge. Wouldn't be surprised if TD and Battier did it at least once. Wouldn't be surprised at all.

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    Wouldn't be surprised if TD and Battier did it at least once. Wouldn't be surprised at all.
    TD would bust his nut, cry, & tell on himself...then have Robinson rebaptize him in the Red River.

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    TD would bust his nut, cry, & tell on himself...then have Robinson rebaptize him in the Red River.
    Nah, I doubt TD is that saintly, no such thing IMO, all the saints died thousands of years ago...

    The definition of saint these days in the NBA is relegated to following:

    -The number of Te al Fouls and Flagrant Fouls
    -The number of times you've punched a player or fan
    -The number of times you've asked for a trade publically

    If you score a zero on those three, your a saint!

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    what about Brandon Roy? does he even have his ears pierced?

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    Dragic to Spurs!!! Kamnik's Avatar
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    Some of the duchiest stuff I ever seen.

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