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Bonner is trash.
you smoke too much weed.
Bonner is trash.
sequ is trash
"Bonner" and "good defense" don't normally go together, but I guess you could say he wasn't terrible. Aldrige was pretty bad all-around tonight and I'm not sure that it was because of Bonner. Having said that, it wasn't Bonner's defense that killed the Spurs early tonight.
I think it was the team as a whole...no offensive rhythm (you mentioned Tony not knowing when to pass or shoot) and no energy. RJ was attrocious on defense early and got benched because of it. Manu was off, Duncan was flat, Bonner was missing shots...all-around pretty terrible start that couldn't be blamed on any one player.
Last edited by AFBlue; 11-07-2009 at 01:53 AM.
Bogans should continue to start
you should stop getting high.
Did I watch a different game? I didn't think he was all that impressive. The spurs still sucked on defense and had no energy in the 1st quarter. That's all it took and while they fought back time after time they just brain farted all over the place to lose whatever momentum they had.
Not saying it was all on Bogans but the lineup change didn't help the Spurs any tonight. No rebounding, missed rotations, and lacked energy.
dont leave out Blake using tony for 5 points in the first five minutes...
Apparently you did Warrior fan.
Bogans had a damn nice night.
someone has to play some D. TD is immobile. TP is going throught the motions. Manu fouls too much. Don't get me started on MF, Roger and Jefferson.
Guess we were watching a different game. They made some gaffs on offense that messed up the momentum but the game was there for the taking in the 4th. Bogans not only forced the ball out of Roy's hands but prevented his teammates from passing it to him at all while Keith was on him (like a shutdown corner on a star receiver). We'll see how this develops but the effort was there.
He had some nice moments but it wasn't anything special. It won't hurt to start him a few more games to see how it goes but there was no difference to the start of the game with him in the starting lineup.
Again, did you miss the good defense?
I know thats a strange vocabulary word in northern california "defense"
I liked Bogans tonight. He looked pretty solid defensively. I just wish I could say the same for the Spurs interior defenders.
I would give him another shot at starting. I think Bonner should only be playing spot minutes. Ratliff or one of the inactives could take his spot.
At least he started for ECF champion most of the regular season. He is a proven veteran.
Personally I'd like to see Mason Jr. start, provided he can show some of that defensive intensity and energy he had in the second half on a consistent basis. He just brings more scoring to the table.
BUT, I'd much rather go back to the Spurs of a couple years ago where they were willing to sacrifice some offensive gains to be stout defensively. If Bogans starts it won't be the end of the world.
Like I said though, ideally Mason Jr. brings credible defense early (along with shooting/scoring) and Bogans is brought in as the "chiller".
bonner is garbage.
Hill gets beaten off the dribble way too easily for me... i think he might be slightly over rated on defense.
Probably has the rep because of his long arms.
Bogans definitely earned that starting spot with the way he was able to cool Roy down. I hope he earns a finishing spot too though.
Bogans starting and Hill in, we held them under 100. That's better than we did against the Jazz.
Bogans was on Andre Miller to start out the game, and I didn't see Miller doing much in the early going.
Bogans did his job...it wasn't flashy and it didn't show up in the stat line...but he did his job, and he did it well.
They help, when he gets the block from behind. I think he had two of them tonight.
I'm a Mason backer, but if Bogans can help keep star perimeters in check to start the game I'd be for bring RMJ off the bench to heat up the offense....unless we're talking about brinking Jefferson off the bench and starting the both Mase AND Bogans.
This team's championship formula has always include a stopper, Bowen, in the lineup, even if it almost meant playing 4-on-5 offensively.
So, while Bogans might not be Bowen, the Spurs also didn't have an offensive player like Jefferson playing alongside Tim and Tony in the starting-5, while keeping Manu on the bench. Bogans is obviously a downgrade from Bowen but RJ's a big enough upgrade over Fin on both ends that it should be doable; I'm not sure they've got a better option currently.
I still have no clue why they haven't given Hairston a shot, given how well he played and the early stage of the season, but at least Bogans is a step in the right direction and a player that resembles Bowen on both ends; hopefully those spot-up 3's will start falling as he builds confidence through playing time.
If they've got Bonner on the floor, their perimeter defense needs to be stout.
If they've got Finley and Jefferson on the perimeter together, their interior defense has to be stout.
If they've got Finley and Bonner starting together, shoot me in the face.
His recovery time is rediculous though. Hill played "swarming" defense down the stretch and was directly responsible for at least one opposing shot-clock violation and a couple rushed last-second shots.
His over-aggressive closing is more a function of inexperience and not knowing his opponent...things he can work on as he matures. He certainly has the physical skills to be a lock-down defender and the "makeup" to live up to that potential.
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