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Agreed. I don't think anybody is saying he is Artest, Bowen, Battier. I think what people are saying is, and this is on his D *only*, would you start Finley or even Mason over him? Malik is another question.
Agree. Sad, all these fans grasping at straws trying to see something that's just not there.
I mean, Udoka would be just as good but stronger.
Agreed. I don't think anybody is saying he is Artest, Bowen, Battier. I think what people are saying is, and this is on his D *only*, would you start Finley or even Mason over him? Malik is another question.
Pretty sad when we are getting so excited over a scrub that couldn't even be a starter on a bad team. However it still beats having Finely out there so I retract.
That's how bad it's become in Spurs land! :-(
Here's the thing though, the Spurs are good because they work harder than everyone else. It's never been because they had more talented players than everyone else (that's how the Lakers win).
So at this early stage, if you need to put Bogans in the court to instill that mindset then that's a good thing. Unfortunately though, I would think that Bowen even at 38 could have done the same thing.
You must be joking
I'm not seeing what all the fuss is about. Bogans did not impress me at all. He got abused at the defensive end by Brandon Roy repeatedly. At first he was doing a lot of fronting until Roy backdoor'd for an alley oop jam. After that he stayed between Roy and the basket and Roy blew by him easily several times, resulting in either fouls or easy layups.
There's no doubt about it. Bogans has earned himself another start.
As for Finley, I'd rather see he and Hairston switch roles. Finley would look better in a sport coat and time, sitting behind the bench.
Honestly, I support starting him. The Spurs need to be starting Blair or McDyess next to Duncan. That way, you have some inside presence with Tim and Antonio or rebounding if Blair is there and you have a wing defender. Plus with the starting unit, there is plenty of offense between Parker/Jefferson/Duncan.
+Fity
Dyess likes to play more off the bench, but I think it would be good for him to continue to settle into the system if he starts. Have Blair and Bonner come off the bench for hustle and floor spacing.
I like bogans he sticks to what he is suppose to do he's a hard nose dude
More Bogans, More McDyess.
Less Bonner Less Finley/ Mason.
I say insert him and McDyess into the starting lineup. Mason and Bogans should take nearly all of Finley's minutes. Bonner should never play.
I want to see ratliff to dammit I think hes got plenty left in the tank
I think defense is contagious... If you throw Bogans out there with Finley, Bonner and TP (who so far this season has had zero interest in playing the defensive side of the floor), then he fades into the general mediocrity. But when you have him out there with Hill, TD, and Gino you see good stuff. This is exactly why I'm not opposed to playing Bonner or Finley for short stretches, but they can't be playing both together and against the other team's best players.
If we want to set a defensive tone early, yeah, he should start.
Bogans plays with intensity and isn't intimidated. And I agree that his at ude is contagious. He isn't Bowen, but Bowen isn't even Bowen either anymore. I think everyone should be happy that Bogans showed that he can contribute to the team. Also, people should be happy that Finley and Bonner played less than normal. Isn't that what everyone was crying about after last game.
These are positive signs.
More positive signs:
RJ responded very well to Pop's challenge. That was great to see.
Hill brought great intensity and played well in Tony's absence. Not incredible but he contributed in a positive way.
Dice showed positives with his excellent jump shooting. If Dice can make that shot, which was one step inside the 3, then to me that's good enough to bench Bonner, especially when he misses three straight 3s.
(In fact, that's about the leash I would give Bonner - if he bricks 3 straight open three point shots then he's probably not going to contribute for the game.)
With Parker out for a week, we just might see Hairston get some time. This could be his best chance to for the whole year to make a case for himself. Let's hope he doesn't dissapoint.
Yes, Pop's experimentation is odd with small ball, but he made great strides tonight in playing Bonner and Finley less. When did that happen all of last year?
Sucked that we lost but I thought this game was our best game of the season, at least after the first 3 quarters. We shot poorly tonight but the effort to win was there and if that continues then we are headed in the right direction. If just a few more 3s dropped last night then we could have had a different outcome.
lmao at the usual suspects still hating on Bogans even after he plays well. Have we really fallen so far as to forget what Spurs basketball is even about?
I especially love how Bogans' defense was nothing more than average, so what's the big deal argument; as if average defense on the perimeter is something to scoff at when Jefferson, Finley and Mason are who you're relying on for your first line of defense..
What is spurs' basketball about?
Defense, you less wonder.
Oh, right.. defense.
That's why Pop starts Bonner & Finley and guys like you slobber on his endlessly.
Anybody should start over Finley and Bonner.
Those two are no NBA players anymore.
I love players who don't play scared. Bogans, for whatever shortcomings he may have, doesn't play scared. He's intense and aggressive. That is the mindset and at ude the Spurs need to inject in this team.
Same for Hairston. Would love to see him get some burn at the expense of Finley.
I wasn't even talking about Pop, fluid. I was talking about people still hating on Bogans when he is easily our best perimeter defender.
Absolutely. Until we can get a first-hand look at how much (or little) Hairston has progressed, Bogans is easily our best perimeter defender. Personally, I'd love for him to continue as starter.
Finley can rot on the bench, for all I give a goddamn.
Bogans looked his best as a Spur. But he is a scrub. Heck I'd rather have Ime.
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