Chris Broussard: More SJax rumors

[TDMVPDPOY]

MAN if jax continues with his 20 4 4 performance, it be hard for other teams to come up with a nice package to get him....cause the warriors will want equal value out of him....

[Mel_13]

Don't forget Bobcats in Stephen Jackson sweepstakes

November 5, 2009 4:53 PM
By Marc Stein

It's been about a week since we had any certifiable chatter to pass along on the Stephen Jackson trade front. That's not because the Warriors have slowed the search for trade partners -- to the contrary -- but because the most interested parties (Cleveland and Denver) are generally high-payroll teams that can't easily absorb Jackson's long-term contract. The Cavs and the Nuggets, furthermore, just aren't teeming with tradeable (and available) assets to hook Golden State.

What we can confirm, though, is that Charlotte has to be mentioned more prominently on the list of interested suitors. We've briefly noted the Bobcats' interest in a couple of previous entries, but further checking reveals that the Bobs have seriously explored the prospect of trading for Jackson, apparently undaunted by the fact that they weren't mentioned when Jackson announced late in the summer that he wanted to be dealt to Cleveland, New York or one of the three Texas teams...

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...on-sweepstakes

[DPG21920]

DJ Augustin/Bell for Jax works and would give GS cap room and a talent in DJ.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Say the Spurs could put together a package of some kind (expirings, Mahinmi, a pick let's say), the question then is where the does Jackson fit for us, and after years roaming the world as a gunner could he come back in here and abide by Pop and the system? Big question, that.

I love the guy's talent, but we can't afford him to come in here and disrupt everything.

[galvatron3000]

This team would have to rely too much on small ball, I thought that was a big time no-no to most people. Looks good on paper, but I don't think it'd work and I don't for a second think the Spurs have even the smallest interest in trading for Jax.

If you look ar who is missing from the current team then you have to say they are playing small ball now.

[Mel_13]

UPDATE: I’m hearing too that Charlotte has shown interest in trading for Jackson, but there is nothing serious, not yet anyway. The Bobcats haven’t presented an offer that the Warriors really like. The Bobcats have not offered Boris Diaw, which is probably the player the Warriors would be most interested in. I know from Jackson’s camp that Charlotte is not a place Jackson wants to go. If those talks persist, don’t be surprised if Jackson tries to scare the Bobcats away from a deal before they sign on for a trade.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009...8-warriors-90/



• What, nobody wants to trade for Stephen Jackson? No surprise that the disgruntled Warrior has not been moved. It's not just that he is a pain to deal with, but few GMs want to take on his money, at his age and with his reputation. Besides getting $7.6 million this season, he has three years left and $27.6 million on his deal. "He's 31," said one GM. "Do you really want Stephen Jackson when he's 34?"

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...arry_bird.html

[Chieflion]

DJ Augustin/Bell for Jax works and would give GS cap room and a talent in DJ.

I wonder why GS would do the trade. They already have Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry.

[Mel_13]

I wonder why GS would do the trade. They already have Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry.

The thing with GS is that they have made a succession of really stupid personnel decisions. Common sense that would apply to most FOs does not seem to apply there. I'm concerned that those idiots will wake up one morning and agree to include Anthony Randolph in a trade to one of the elite teams.

[mountainballer]

http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html
Ric Bucher: League sources: Add Miami to the teams interested in Stephen Jackson. And, according to a Jackson source, add Miami to his preferred list.

hmm. Heat would likely have to sacrifice some cap space 2010, but as it stands right now, they could take Sjax contract, re sign Wade AND still have enough cap space to go for a quality FA. (not a max FA though and they likely also wouldn't be able to re sign Haslem, if they acquire a FA).
or they get also rid of James Jones, who would be even more redundant, if they get Sjax. (I always thought J Jones would be interesting for the Spurs. still think so)

so, priority for them is re sign Wade. best chance to make this happen is a potential contender team. adding Sjax (for Q-Rich?) makes them already pretty good. if they also can get rid of Jones, they could go for Bosh or Amare, because a team with a core of Wade-Sjax-Beasley-Cook-Chalmers will look intriguing for either of them.
I can see this happen. if they even could manage to get Jones into the package for Sjax, the deal will be very attractive for them. they might be even willing to include Cook into the package, something that would make the package very attractive for the Warriors. (even if they don't need Cook, but I'm sure Nelson likes him)

[exstatic]

I don't see Miami doing it during the season. They have a plan they've stuck to almost as long as the Knicks, and I think they'll see it through. If they totally strike out next summer, then maybe they'll work something out as a consolation prize.

Trading for Jackson this year would put them out of the FA derby for any of the top (LeBron,Bosh) or second tier guys (Amare, Joe Johnson), who will only take the MAX salary. There are enough teams with money to make it a player's market.

[spursnatic]

Say the Spurs could put together a package of some kind (expirings, Mahinmi, a pick let's say), the question then is where the does Jackson fit for us, and after years roaming the world as a gunner could he come back in here and abide by Pop and the system? Big question, that.

I love the guy's talent, but we can't afford him to come in here and disrupt everything.

How the would he come in and disrupt everything?...We aren't playing well enough to disrupt anything?...But I really don't see how we would be able to get him anyways?...We are already way over the salary cap as it is, we would have to get rid of way to much to land Jackson...I would love to have Jackson back in black and silver, and I think he would work out good without any problems..No way would he come in here asking to be traded, he knows Pop and knows what Pop does and doesn't tollerate..I am all for it, if you could show me what it would take to get him?....

[mountainballer]

Trading for Jackson this year would put them out of the FA derby for any of the top (LeBron,Bosh) or second tier guys (Amare, Joe Johnson), who will only take the MAX salary. There are enough teams with money to make it a player's market.

well, I tried to demonstrate a scenario how they could stay a player in the free agency. no time to read? they need to get rid of Jones, then they will be able to still hand out the 16.2 million a max contract for Bosh (or Lebron) would cost them in the 1st year.
Jones is only guaranteed 40% of his 2010-13 salary. (about 6 million overall) Heat could even add some cash to cover a part of this. so, it shouldn't be impossible to find a taker for Jones.

(or he is part of the package. why not try Jones plus Wright plus teaser like money and pick?)

[Mel_13]

Jackson is now moving in the toxic asset category. IMO, GS will be lucky to get expiring contracts for him. It's becoming more likely that they will have to take back a bad contract to get rid of him.



Jackson's agent goes after Nelson

In an effort to get Golden State's disgruntled swingman Stephen Jackson traded as soon as possible, Jackson's agent, Mark Stevens, has gone on the offensive, attacking the credibility and character of Warriors coach Don Nelson.

In a telephone interview just moments after the Warriors lost to the Sacramento Kings Sunday night, Stevens lambasted Nelson, criticizing everything from his trustworthiness to his coaching ability. Leaving few stones unturned, Stevens gave his take on some controversies in Nelson's 31-year NBA coaching career.

"No one trusts Don Nelson," Stevens said. "When Nelson was in Milwaukee, Wayne Embry trusted him and brought him in, and he betrayed Embry. In Dallas, Mark Cuban took damn good care of him and his son [Donnie Nelson Jr.], and he betrayed Cuban. In Golden State, Chris Mullin hired him and trusted him and Nelson backstabbed him by reaching out to president Robert Rowell and blaming Mullin for everything that was going wrong with the Warriors."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4636820

[mountainballer]

Jackson is now moving in the toxic asset category. IMO, GS will be lucky to get expiring contracts for him. It's becoming more likely that they will have to take back a bad contract to get rid of him.

jesus, stop this! this thread will be flooded with proposals, that the Warriors will send us Sjax plus Randolph or Curry plus a pick if we send them our expiring contracts.

but yes, the Jackson camp is putting a lot of pressure on the Warriors. that one for sure.
I wonder why the Jazz are not in the talks. (maybe they are?) they really have a problem at the wing and they could offer several different packages that work. they could even work out a package, that sends out more money than brings back on Sjax. they could save quite some money short term, considering the lux tax.

btw. taking back another bad contract......
I assume the Warriors priority is to avoid that. they are around cap for next year, I'm pretty sure they want to become a player in the free agency. they will need to get rid of Sjax to start with, but need to also get rid of at least another 2 contracts. Maggette will be almost impossible to move, so it will be Azubuike and Turiaf. and that's something to look at for the Spurs. they might also be one of the few teams interested in Ian.

[wildbill2u]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Check out the at ude from Jax to his teammates and vice versa. This guy is a running sore and would not be a good addition to our team chemistry.

[bigbendbruisebrother]

The Warriors would like Manu Ginobili from the Spurs, but I can't see the Spurs parting with Manu.

[TDMVPDPOY]

MAYBE nelson should trade him to the spurs to screw the mavs, and whatever team he hates....

dont the spurs have a really good relationship with him? didnt we allow him in preseason training sessions 2 seasons ago?

[Ice009]

I really think the Spurs should see if they can get jack for expiring contracts.

Mason+Finley+Ian are 3 expendable players. I like Matt Bonner too much to trade him. Mason and Finley seem to be gaining smaller roles on the Spurs by the day, and they would fit in perfect with Nelly's system.

Does that work with out including Bonner money wise????

If that works PUT IN THE OFFER NOW.

[HarlemHeat37]

I think Bonner would be a piece that would be a key for Nelson though..

I'd love Jackson, but if we're going to make a trade, it should definitely be for a big man..

[MaNu4Tres]

The only way we trade Bonner is if it's for a big man.

Ratliff is looking like anything but reliable. Then again that could be a premature statement since the season is still very young.

[MaNu4Tres]

I wish we had shopped Mason heavily in the off-season whenever the Jefferson trade went down. Then again there's still some hope.

[HarlemHeat37]

Mason/Bonner/Finley for Jackson/Turiaf works..I don't know if I do it though, depends on other options for big men..

Turiaf is a very good shot blocker, but his individual defense is pretty average..

[Mel_13]

Don Nelson: "It's harder than to trade that guy."

November 11, 2009 5:07 PM
By Henry Abbott

Don Nelson was on radio station KNBR in San Francisco talking about Stephen Jackson. He couldn't have been clearer that he's no longer assuming things will work out.

“We know Jack wants out, we’re trying to accommodate him," he explains. "It’s harder than to trade that guy. He’s got his history; he’s got a long-term contract. We’re trying.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...trade-that-guy

[senorglory]

3 years, $28 million? Too much from us for an aging SJax. We could afford him on his way up, maybe we will be able to again afford him on his way down, but we can't pay his peak market price, put too much a crimp in our style.

We need that money for future big men.

[MaNu4Tres]

Mason/Bonner/Finley for Jackson/Turiaf works..I don't know if I do it though, depends on other options for big men..

Turiaf is a very good shot blocker, but his individual defense is pretty average..

Post #55 in the thread.

I think Turiaf would be a great addition. Love his game and energy and like you said shotblocking.

His contract is reasonable as well.