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    W4A1 143 43CK? Nbadan's Avatar
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    I think, because of Mr. Hasan, it will be a lot harder for anyone to express anything resembling sympathy towards Islamic Extremists. If anything good comes from this episode, it'll be that.
    So, any soldier who expresses sympathy for an enemy is a traitor? OK

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    No micca, I'm not. But you're obviously thinking about it.

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    Apropos of nothing, micca likes to sex up the thread.

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    The world is to dangerous a place right now to let the american left goveren. Actually the only place they should be allowed to goveren is in Mr. Roger's nieghborhood...

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    Future Jihadists who expose themselves as Hasan did, in the months leading up to this week's terrorist attack, probably won't be given the chance Hasan was given to wreak carnage. It's a shame he wasn't taken more seriously.
    It's also a shame that the military didn't take Hasan's slow mental-slide downward seriously by deciding to reactivate him anyway...and that they didn't act when Hasan complained of being called a 'camel-jocky' by some of those he was going to war with...

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    Yoni and Darrin? Definition of terrorism and applicability to this case? It's not self-evident: that's the lazy man's argument. Real men make their case.

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    No micca, I'm not. But you're obviously thinking about it.
    I'm sure you've heard this alot in your life but........you're a real nice guy,but I really don't see you that way.

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    Yoni and Darrin? Definition of terrorism and applicability to this case? It's not self-evident: that's the lazy man's argument. Real men make their case.
    Real Men? precious please...

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    So, any soldier who expresses sympathy for an enemy is a traitor? OK
    I misspoke, I should have said, Islamic Extremist positions. But, on your point, if they do so at the expense of fellow soldiers, yeah; it's traitorous. So, OK.

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    Yoni and Darrin? Definition of terrorism and applicability to this case? It's not self-evident: that's the lazy man's argument. Real men make their case.
    Hasan was no more or less a stereotypical terrorist than were the 19 who boarded those planes on September 11.

    The last words out of any of their mouths was Allahu Akbar!

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    It's also a shame that the military didn't take Hasan's slow mental-slide downward seriously by deciding to reactivate him anyway...and that they didn't act when Hasan complained of being called a 'camel-jocky' by some of those he was going to war with...
    He wasn't going to war he was going to be in the rear with the gear.And yes the media said he was being harrased for being a muslm, and if you're calling his at udes a slow mental slide downward we'd have to be emptying mosques all around the civilized world and giving them mental health care workers.

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    Hasan was no more or less a stereotypical terrorist than were the 19 who boarded those planes on September 11.

    The last words out of any of their mouths was Allahu Akbar!
    That's not responsive. Pointing to one or two cir stantial details and saying they fit a stereotype doesn't make the case for you.

    How do you define terrorism Yoni, and how does Hasan's mass shooting qualify?

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    Hasan was no more or less a stereotypical terrorist than were the 19 who boarded those planes on September 11.
    They were all officers in the US armed forces?

    I'm going to say he is less stereotypical for that fact. I'm interested to see what the entire background here is, but many here will believe only what their ideologies will permit.

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    Islamic Extremist positions
    What positions were those? Why was he reactivated?

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    They were all officers in the US armed forces?

    I'm going to say he is less stereotypical for that fact. I'm interested to see what the entire background here is, but many here will believe only what their ideologies will permit.
    They all assimilated into their environments.

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    Let's see... It's fellow soldiers fault for harrasing him about being a muslim.

    It's the military's fault for not recognizing a trained mental health worker was in fact crazy(this will be the Obama approved position, and so the one the media pushes)

    It's the looming threat of going to Iraq.

    It's the ing twinkies he ate.


    But no where is it the he was hearing in the mosque.
    No where is it the thousand and thousands of Imams preaching death to the west.
    No where is it any result of Islam,because that's politically inncorrect, so that's verboten.
    So we promote a cretin in our own military who hates the west because it's politically correct,and then we refuse to deal with the truth because that's politically inncorrect, and now we will crucify the military,because that IS politically correct.
    Kinda reminds ya of fannie Mae.

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    Let's see... It's fellow soldiers fault for harrasing him about being a muslim.

    It's the military's fault for not recognizing a trained mental health worker was in fact crazy(this will be the Obama approved position, and so the one the media pushes)

    It's the looming threat of going to Iraq.

    It's the ing twinkies he ate.
    touche'

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    NBADAN is up to his same old terrorist sympathizing bull . move along, move along.

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    They all assimilated into their environments.
    Hasan was born and raised in America -- and many of the 9/11 terrorists didn't assimilate at all. You think Hasan was a sleeper agent from birth?

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    "But at the same time, there is considerable evidence that Hasan could also be categorized as a typical European-style recruit to fundamentalist Islam. He was not a poor street kid in rags, he was middle class. He was the product of a family of West Bank Palestinians who first took refuge in Jordan before moving to the United States to seek safety and wealth. "

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    "But at the same time, there is considerable evidence that Hasan could also be categorized as a typical European-style recruit to fundamentalist Islam. He was not a poor street kid in rags, he was middle class. He was the product of a family of West Bank Palestinians who first took refuge in Jordan before moving to the United States to seek safety and wealth. "
    How the does anyone connect any of that to terrorism? Because his parents immigrated from Jordan? Palestinian?


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    "But at the same time, there is considerable evidence that Hasan could also be categorized as a typical European-style recruit to fundamentalist Islam. He was not a poor street kid in rags, he was middle class. He was the product of a family of West Bank Palestinians who first took refuge in Jordan before moving to the United States to seek safety and wealth. "
    So are you saying he was recruited?

    Does "Chris W." have evidence he was part of a conspiracy?

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    So, attacking someone because they propose a opinion that you are unable to intelligently debate makes their opinion worthless - check....
    You really have no basis to debate this. In every way whatsoever (legal, dictionary) this was terroristic. Also very hypocritical of you to refer to him as crazy for labeling the terrorist.

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    nbadan is up to his same old terrorist sympathizing bull . Move along, move along.
    +1

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