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    In every way whatsoever (legal, dictionary) this was terroristic.
    Give the definitions. Make the case this fits in every way. You haven't yet. All I see is circularity and fiat from you guys who say this was terrorism.

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    You really have no basis to debate this. In every way whatsoever (legal, dictionary) this was terroristic.
    I'm not quite sure it meets every definition.

    premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents

    --US Code

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    Typical racists ( the brilliant Whott doesn't like Magic Negro because of HUSSEIN as middle name) here keying off on the guy's religion rather than on his very nasty, dispiriting job and the pressures of Repugs' continuous bogus no-win wars.

    I read today where other soldiers on that base are not surprised somebody went nuts. Not the first, not the last. These damaged soldiers will be murdering themselves and Americans for decades to come.

    The fruits of OBL's WTC attack are still dropping.

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    Give the definitions. Make the case this fits in every way. You haven't yet. All I see is circularity and fiat from you guys who say this was terrorism.
    No. You can try and prove why it is not. I think this way of thinking is ridiculous. We are talking about you libs who are offended by the name branded to a mass murderer. If I understand correctly, you are saying that because he is muslim he was called a terrorist. Had he been white, he would not have been called a terrorist.
    What if he was a white muslim? McVeigh was a terrorist, right?

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    No. You can try and prove why it is not.
    Already done.
    I think this way of thinking is ridiculous.
    I think your spouting absolutes coupled with your complete inability to back them up is ridiculous
    We are talking about you libs who are offended by the name branded to a mass murderer. If I understand correctly, you are saying that because he is muslim he was called a terrorist. Had he been white, he would not have been called a terrorist.
    What if he was a white muslim? McVeigh was a terrorist, right?
    If i understand correctly, you are saying he fits every definition of terrorist.

    He doesn't seem to fit the definition I posted from the US Code, unless there is something I'm missing.

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    We are talking about you libs who are offended by the name branded to a mass murderer.
    I'm not offended a bit. I'm just not sure the label fits. Your argument that it does isn't very convincing so far.

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    I'll give it to you though, you sort of tried. Seems like everyone else ran away from it.

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    Hasan was born and raised in America -- and many of the 9/11 terrorists didn't assimilate at all.
    Many of them did.

    You think Hasan was a sleeper agent from birth?
    No.

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    This act might be terrorism, but in order for that to fit the case you're going to have to prove there was a political goal at the center of the actions. It doesn't matter what he yelled out or what his name was but rather what his goals were for this attack.

    If the man simply went crazy and shot up a bunch of people then I don't see how you could call this terrorism.


    No matter what you call this those soldiers are still dead. It doesn't change it one bit. Its sad to see how large the terrorism catch all has become. I want to see proof of political goals before I call this guy anything more than a mass murdering head.

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    This act might be terrorism, but in order for that to fit the case you're going to have to prove there was a political goal at the center of the actions. It doesn't matter what he yelled out or what his name was but rather what his goals were for this attack.

    If the man simply went crazy and shot up a bunch of people then I don't see how you could call this terrorism.
    That suggests terrorists are sane.

    No matter what you call this those soldiers are still dead. It doesn't change it one bit. Its sad to see how large the terrorism catch all has become. I want to see proof of political goals before I call this guy anything more than a mass murdering head.
    I want to see the military cull anyone else that remotely believes, behaves, or speaks like this mass murdering head.

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    This guy is a . USA gave him everything he has. When they asked him to go to the war his political and religous views all of a sudden were a big ing deal. What does this lil do? Kill his fellow soldiers. It's obvious this ass should have never been in the military. The polticians need to stay out of who can go join or not.

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    That suggests terrorists are sane.
    Are you suggesting all of them are not?

    I want to see the military cull anyone else that remotely believes, behaves, or speaks like this mass murdering head.
    Thought police. Not surprised at all.

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    Many of them did.
    Really? In what way did they assimilate to the US?

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    This guy is a . USA gave him everything he has. When they asked him to go to the war his political and religous views all of a sudden were a big ing deal. What does this lil do? Kill his fellow soldiers. It's obvious this ass should have never been in the military. The polticians need to stay out of who can go join or not.
    How do you know that politicians had anything to do with his selection or retention?

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    That suggests terrorists are sane.
    They are. Having opposing viewpoints does not make them insane nor does their choice to kill themselves as part of their acts.

    I want to see the military cull anyone else that remotely believes, behaves, or speaks like this mass murdering head.
    I'm not sure how effective that would be or how possible it is, but I would like our military to remove people who are not suitable and show signs of wanting to kill their fellow servicemen.

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    Hasan was no more or less a stereotypical terrorist than were the 19 who boarded those planes on September 11.

    The last words out of any of their mouths was Allahu Akbar!
    the funny thing is, that they report him never saying anything along that line. Not even after or before.

    So the fact he didn't want to be deployed was coincidental in this atrocity?

    It is just easier to believe that all muslims are crazy and that he just pulled a gun out one day, after being there for so long, and decided to shoot everybody.

    What political goal was he trying to achieve? Sounds like a psychopath that was driven over the edge through all the war drama he has to listen to as a psychiatrist.

    Analyze the stimulus, and make your conjecture from there on. Don't just spew some bigoted statement.

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    I guess the next serial killer that happens to be muslim is a terrorist too.

    O wait, theives and w.e too!

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    Let's see... It's fellow soldiers fault for harrasing him about being a muslim.

    It's the military's fault for not recognizing a trained mental health worker was in fact crazy(this will be the Obama approved position, and so the one the media pushes)

    It's the looming threat of going to Iraq.

    It's the ing twinkies he ate.


    But no where is it the he was hearing in the mosque.
    No where is it the thousand and thousands of Imams preaching death to the west.
    No where is it any result of Islam,because that's politically inncorrect, so that's verboten.
    So we promote a cretin in our own military who hates the west because it's politically correct,and then we refuse to deal with the truth because that's politically inncorrect, and now we will crucify the military,because that IS politically correct.
    Kinda reminds ya of fannie Mae.
    Yea, I guess during that 8 year period, he just chose a random day to do it since he was pushed by his religon. And not the fact his sorry ass didn't want to honor the contract he made with the military.

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    Are you guys saying that 1. He is not a terrorist and/or
    2. What he did was not an act of terrrorism?

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    Are you guys saying that 1. He is not a terrorist and/or
    2. What he did was not an act of terrrorism?
    I am saying your contention that the act fits every definition of terrorism is false.

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    Are you guys saying that 1. He is not a terrorist and/or
    2. What he did was not an act of terrrorism?
    If he had been Caucasian and christian, would you still think he was a terrorist?

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    I wonder how much more blood will be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.
    your joking right?

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    Are you guys saying that 1. He is not a terrorist and/or
    2. What he did was not an act of terrrorism?
    he's a muderer and any murder committed is a terroristic attack on another person..

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    I'm a POW!





    Damn Iraqi's were probably going..'take her back...take her back!'

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    Alleged Fort Hood Shooter Tied to Mosque of 9/11 Hijackers

    Sunday , November 08, 2009

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    NEW YORK —
    The family of the alleged Fort Hood shooter held his mother's funeral at the same Virginia mosque that two Sept. 11 hijackers attended in 2001, at a time when a radical imam preached there. Whether the Fort Hood shooter associated with the hijackers is something the FBI will probably look into, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.
    The family of Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the Army psychiatrist who killed 13 and wounded 29 at the Texas military base, held his mother's funeral at the Dar al Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, Va., on May 31, 2001, according to her obituary in the Roanoke Times newspaper.
    In 2001, Anwar Aulaqi was an imam, or spiritual leader, at the Washington-area mosque. Aulaqi told the FBI in 2001 that, before he moved to Virginia in early 2001, he met with 9/11 hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi several times in San Diego. Al-Hazmi was at the time living with Khalid al-Mihdhar, another hijacker. Al-Hazmi and another hijacker, Hani Hanjour, attended the Dar al Hijrah mosque in Virginia in early April 2001.
    In his FBI interview, Aulaqi denied ever meeting with al-Hazmi and Hanjour while in Virginia.
    Aulaqi, a native-born U.S. citizen, left the United States in 2002, eventually traveling to Yemen. He was investigated by the FBI in 1999 and 2000 after it was learned that he may have been contacted by a possible procurement agent for Osama bin Laden. During this investigation, the FBI learned that Aulaqi knew people involved in raising money for Hamas, a Palestinian group on the U.S. State Department's terrorist list.
    Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, outreach director at Dar al Hijrah, said he did not know whether Hasan ever attended the mosque but confirmed that the Hasan family participated in services there. Abdul-Malik said the Hasans were not leaders at the mosque and their attendance was utterly normal.
    The Falls Church mosque is one of the largest on the East Coast, and thousands of worshippers attend prayers and services there every week. Abdul-Malik said it's a mistake for people to conflate regular attendance at a mosque with extremism.
    Many Muslims pray at the mosque multiple times a day, he said. "It's part of family life. It's like going out for ice cream after dinner."
    Faizul Khan, former imam of the Muslim Community Center in nearby Silver Spring, Md., where Hasan also worshipped, said he was not aware that Hasan had attended services at Dar al Hijrah but said it would not be unusual for Hasan to attend more than one mosque concurrently.
    Khan said he did not recall Hasan mentioning having been taught or preached to by Aulaqi.
    The London Telegraph first reported the potential link between Hasan and the mosque.
    Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey said Sunday it's important for the country not to get caught up in speculation about Hasan's Muslim faith, and he has instructed his commanders to be on the lookout for anti-Muslim reaction to the killings at the Texas post.
    He says focusing on the Islamic roots of the suspected shooter could "heighten the backlash" against all Muslims in the military.
    Casey says diversity in the military "gives us strength."
    Casey declined to answer questions about the investigation into the shooting, but said evidence to this point shows that Hasan acted alone. He toured Fort Hood on Friday with Army Secretary John McHugh.
    Casey appeared on ABC's "This Week" and CNN's "State of the Union."

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