Hey, BR, I'm against badfish too. How bout me, BR, do I get some support? You porkin' yer mother withstanding.
son better than being alone in every thread like you have been. god bless
I like [alone] just dandy, BR. I ain't nobody's fart catcher.
Well so you admit it. Dirk is one of the most efficient players of all time. Good. FG% aint everything man. Even thought you are treating it as such.
Any when it comes to fg%, Dirks crappy rookie year is what is keeping him out of that. He shot at 0.405 that year. And has never average lower than .461 after that.
His MVP year he shot .502
And BR im the one bringing in facts you sad piece of horse .
GD, the fandoms are cross breeding. It's complete anarchy!
I certainly admit that he is one of the best of all time in efficency.
The argument, in case you haven't grasped it yet, which is alarming since i have mentioned it like 5 times, was that he isn't one of the most efficient OFFENSIVE players of all time.
He clearly isn't... and your claim of ownage is well... owned!
BTW... He's not in the top 250 in Offensive rebounds, Offensive rebound %, or Assists. I'm trying to think of another "offensive" parameter that he could be tops in... do they have a stat for calling timeouts or something?
Kudos though to your back peddling skills!!!!
Last edited by cobbler; 11-08-2009 at 07:27 PM.
The thing is, dumbass, is that you are basing offensive efficiency on one single statistic FG% Which I already said he would be on that list if not for his crappy rookie year.
Lets look at other OFFENSIVE things
Here is EFF. FG % http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ct_career.html
Dirk is on the list
Offensive win shares- http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ws_career.html
Dirk is one the list, very high on list
FT % http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ct_career.html
Dirk is top 15
TO Percent http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ct_career.html
Dirk is high on the list
And check this out
- Nowitzki earned a decade-best 137.6 Win Shares during the regular season.
- Nowitzki finished fifth in the decade with 17.4 playoff Win Shares, but while Nowitzki played in only 97 playoff games, no one above him played him in fewer than 133 games.
- Nowitzki is an almost perfect blend of productivity and efficiency. Among players with at least 400 games played during the decade, he had the 15th-highest usage percentage, the 8th-lowest turnover percentage, and the 6th-highest offensive rating.
Just admit it you lost Laker fan
lol at these Maverick fans still trying to fool others that Dirk is a great PF .... I'll give you "damn good" at best, but he is VERY FAR from "Great". the dude can't even average 10 rebounds per game ... talk to me whenever Dirk puts up 20 and 10 over his career like Tim Duncan does. then maybe you will have a leg to stand on. , Dirk has never once in his career averaged a double, double LMAO!!!
I guess two years of averaging 9.9 rebounds doesn't count?
108th on the list of EFF.FG% is not best of all time... 108th on any list isnt best of anything.
Win shares?
FT%... ill give you that one 15th is up there.
TO %.... where is your common sense argument here? He's a forward/center?
He's not in the top 250 in FG%, Offensive rebounds, Offensive rebound %, or Assists. Those are the major contributing parameters. I gave you FT%.
You can pull all the obscure stats you want out of your ass but it changes nothing.
You claimed ownage... you FAILED.
Now.... Failure % is another thing. Dirk, you, and all Mav's own that one!
have a nice day!
2 years out of a 15 year career? Classic!I guess two years of averaging 9.9 rebounds doesn't count?
LOL son those two years have to hurt ... so close to 10, but white boy just didn't have what it took to get the job done.I guess two years of averaging 9.9 rebounds doesn't count?
Dirk is a career 8 rebound per game PF. what a joke! ... it is a direct slap to the FACE to all of the NBA's greatest PF's in history that SOME of you actually consider this guy one of the best. lol truly pathetic.
I wonder if there's been more guys in the history of the nba to put up 90/40/50 or average 20/10...
Plus I'll take 23/8.5 over 20 and 10 for a career.
Win shares?
FT%... ill give you that one 15th is up there.
TO %.... where is your common sense argument here? He's a forward/center?
He's not in the top 250 in FG%, Offensive rebounds, Offensive rebound %, or Assists. Those are the major contributing parameters. I gave you FT%.
You can pull all the obscure stats you want out of your ass but it changes nothing.
You claimed ownage... you FAILED.
Now.... Failure % is another thing. Dirk, you, and all Mav's own that one!
have a nice day!
15th-highest usage percentage, the 8th-lowest turnover percentage, and the 6th-highest offensive rating.
Owned.
Didnt say he was best of all time. He is on the list (in front of people like MJ)108th on the list of EFF.FG% is not best of all time... 108th on any list isnt best of anything.
And way to laugh on win shares because you dont have a response.
And to have to 8th lowest TO percent is a great stat. No matter what position you play
Good try though. You got raped, stop trying to laugh your way out of it.
Damn sons, the almighty Zach Randolph has had a handful of 20/10 seasons. Every gm will take him over Dirk in a heartbeat.
sons I may actually be able to look past Dirk's lack of rebounding if he actually had a decent shooting percentage. LMAO 472% .... oh yea... 22, 8, and a below average shooting percentage sure are GREATNESS!!! LMAO
In what situation is 47% shooting for a non post player not good?
Does this mean Chris Paul is only just "good" because of his 47% career shooting percentage?
son no one is trying to compare a guy like Randolph to Dirk nor is anyone saying that Randolph is great .... YOU MAVERICK FANS are the ones who are constantly bragging and claiming that Dirk is one of the best PF's to ever play the game! anyone with a brain who isn't a biased, homer Dallas fan can tell that simply isn't true ... he is absolutely NOWHERE NEAR being one of the best. nowhere near the top.
again ... Dirk is a damn good player, but far from "Great"
& don't ferget, like Cobb said: we have those 15 NBA World les.
ok sons, name every PF ever that's better than him.
son Chris Paul has 4 seasons under his belt and his shooting percentage is doing nothing but going up every year .... talk to me again in about 10 years whenever Paul's career shooting percentage is well over 50% and Dirk's has sunk down to 45-46%.
You can claim ownage all you want... just like you claim the 2006 le. Now you are using "decade" and back peddling from "all time".
I agree Dirk is a very good player. One of the greatest of all time is laughable. One of the greatest of all times in offensive efficency is arguably (see the above ownage) absurd.
I am off to go to the game.... catch you later.
...again... You are one the the leaders "all time" in failure to ring so kudos for that!
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