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it better be Hairston
need some explosion
I've got an inside source telling me Finley will start at PG and Mason will move to PF in our lineup.
Pop is really anxious to see how this works.
it better be Hairston
need some explosion
The more I think about Haislip playing the more ridiculous it sounds. Let's bring in another bad defender and give Finley more minutes.
God help us.
Bonner isn't a "far better defender" than anybody. If you want to base things on preseason then Hill and Blair are the best players on this team. The guy was given a guaranteed contract, wouldn't it make sense at some point to see what he can do? He's theoretically supposed to be able to match-up with face-up four's. If he can't do that, fine, but don't act like he'd be a substantial defensive drop off from Bonner.
I'm not backpedaling at all. Realistically, unless Blair is playing ridiculous in his first rotation, I don't see him getting many minutes against the Raptors, only for the fact that there is no logical match-up for him. I never said he wouldn't play though.
I didn't say I'd rather the minutes go to Finley, but you and I both know they will (and Bogans) before they go to Hairston. Is that so and what exactly gives you credibility, the post count?
You haven't seen much, but you're going to tell me, who has, about his role on the team? I don't care about what he did with the Magic, I'm telling you on the Raptors, so far, he's mostly taken a back seat to Bosh and Bargnani. Turkoglu is a 15-17 point scorer and doesn't attempt a significant number of shots. If by chance he breaks out against the Spurs, Haislip theoretically may be able to match-up with him (the Spurs claimed he could spend time at the three guarding long three's).
No, it's about who could theoretically get into the game at hand. Hairston has no place playing against the Raptors, despite your and the majority of this board's obsession with him. Mahinmi would likely have less of a chance than Haislip in guarding Bosh or Bargnani.
McDonald projects Hill to start the Raptors game.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...72#post3818072
You guys get your wish. Hairston will in fact be active...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/s...Spurs_2-3.html
This is an inexplicable, if not surprising move.
It only seemed inexplicable to you.
Well then it must have been wrong. Because if something isn't the consensus opinion of those people who have high post counts, then it's automatically uninformed and incorrect.
It only seemed inexplicable to you.
This is no commentary of Hairston's game. I, like many, like virtually everything I've seen from the guy. But to me, for this specific game, at least, it was worth a shot to give Haislip some run.
I obviously have no problem with Malik getting the nod but, given the opponent, Haislip would make more sense given their personnel and the way Bogans just played.
I have a hard time believeing Malik will get any playing time and if you're going to pay Haislip on the hope he can help you with the long 3's and face-up 4's, why wouldn't you let him prove you right or wrong?
Post count? That may be important to some, but not to me.
If giving Haislip some run is the objective, wouldn't it be much more sensible to simply have him replace Ratliff on the active roster? You've made a case that Malik probably won't see many minutes. Well if you dress Haislip in Parker's place, you have 6 bigs. Honestly, who could possibly be more superfluous than a 6th big?
True, but when you've got a group of bigs that all have their own unique skill set, and your coach is admittedly coaching by the seat of his pants.. it might not be all that crazy to have another skill set on the bench to utilize depending how the game plays out; It makes sense for a game against a team with a bunch of perimeter-oriented bigs, even if not a regular basis.
OK, can't say I agree, but I do see your point.
I'm not sure I agree with my point either.
I mean, there's not really any duplication in the skill sets of their bigs, but I was just trying to make sense of his signing..
I guess he can be this year's James White, playing the role of the opposing team's star on the scout team?
I saw him more in the Sean Marks role; practice big.I'm not sure I agree with my point either.
I mean, there's not really any duplication in the skill sets of their bigs, but I was just trying to make sense of his signing..
I guess he can be this year's James White, playing the role of the opposing team's star on the scout team?
They placed a longshot bet that he could be of use against mobile 4s. Probably won't pay off, but you never know. Maybe he's channeling Bruce Bowen and staying at the practice facility until midnight doing defensive drills.
I'm seriously asking-because I kinda chuckled reading this- are you trying to be sarcastic and contemptuous of the head-cases who post a lot of crap but don't watch the games? Your descriptions of each player is great. If you weren't trying to be funny, oops.
See, Marks was a decent big to throw at Timmy and had more of a prototypical body. He makes sense as a practice big.
Haislip, on the other hand, isn't going to bring much but his athleticism. He's not going to really keep anyone sharp offensively with his defense and his offense wouldn't do much but make you stay cognizant of the three; it's not like he's going to work someone over in the post.
That's why I suggested the scout team.
If James White can play the role of LeBron, I guess there's no reason Haislip couldn't play a Dirk or Amar'e' for their defensive preparation.
You're right, it was a longshot they took on him. But, if it's me, and I gave him that contract, I'd at least want to throw him out there against one of those long 3's or mobile 4's, preferably early on, just to see if there's any chance that my bet might pay off.
That's just me, though..
Hill better be good and work his ass off. We're ed without TP.
look at the Raptors roster and rotation before trying to figure out what player to activate makes more sense.
on the guard positions they play Calderon-Jack-Wright-DeRozan, with Hedo also playing a lot of ball handling.
(there isn't a clear back-up for Hedo, who also doesn't play a pure SF)
assuming that most of the time RJ will match up with Hedo and Hill with Calderon, you have 3 match ups with good if not great athletes, all with average size, all play more of a physical style than a fines style. what Spurs player could you put at either of them? ok, that's why Hairston of course makes more sense than Haislip would.
and about the front court: we don't have the personal to stay with either Bosh or Bargnani. so why even think about it. jesus, it's a home game. think about the strengths and what THEY can't counter. that's (as mentioned by another poster) rebounding and a physical inside game. do we really think about sending out a 3rd string big to keep Bargnani from shooting a tree or two while we could build an inside presence with Tim, Blair and Dice they could never ever hold ground.
let's just shove them aside!
I was hoping that Pop would give Bogans more games as a starter...
lol...once he is wrong he resorts to post count smack.
Mountainballer makes a good point. From an athletic standpoint our bigs our not going to be able to stay with Bargs/Bosh anyway. We are better off using the bigs we have that are physical and can rebound...as controlling the boards could help us cancel out whatever liabilities we might encounter on the defensive end.
I keep forgetting that the Raps have Rasho off the bench. That is nice option to have. He is a solid 7 footer.
Thanks, and yes I was trying to add a little humour to my thread..It can get a little to serious around here sometimes and I can only take so many Bonner hate topics..
Like I said before, I've got no problem with Hairston getting the nod and, hopefully, he manages to stick there. But the difference is a short-term versus long-term outlook.
Bargnani and Hedo are pretty much the type of players the Spurs hoped they could put Haislip on. I haven't seen much of anything to indicate Haislip should have ever been brought in for his defensive capabilities, but the Spurs did. And they're paying him pretty decent for someone who's believed to be essentially a longshot/flyer acquisition.
I haven't seen or heard much from DeRozan to know just how well he's performing, but the only two players they have that are natural matchups for Hairston would be he and Wright. Plus, given Bogans last outing, Pop's Fin love, RJ's minutes, and Mason's role.. it's just hard to envision Pop playing Hairston against Toronto unless it's a complete blowout; I hope to see him play, even if it's only in a blowout in the Spurs' favor, but I'm just not real optimistic given what we've seen thus far.
So that's why I could see the logic in playing Hailslip. Neither is likely to see playing time but when you've got five bigs on the roster after Tim and 'Dyess that all have their own style of play and considerable warts, there's a chance that someone like Haislip could get a shot. If Bargnani or Hedo are having their way, Haislip's unique size and athleticism would be tempting; I mean, physically and athletically, there's no match for Haislip on the roster. It's much more likely that Hedo or Bargnani would become the headache and not Wright or DeRozan, as well.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I just don't see Pop throwing Hairston out against point-guards or playing him in front of Bogans, Fin or Mason. And if that's the case, give Haislip the chance to prove one way or the other if he can give you a return on your investment; not a huge investment, but one nonetheless.
You pretty much know what Hairston brings and how he could affect you both short and long-term. You cant really say the same for Haislip.
They could've payed a lot less for a scout team player..
Now take a deep cleansing breath....
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Awwwwwwwwwweee.
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