Can Kobe become Player of TWO Decades????

[Culburn369]

even a rapist is loath to you though. Actually you can hardly get attractive enough to draw a with two smelly dumb holes located in your face and crotch respectively, even your anus isn't so dumb since it sometimes does make sounds by farting.

woot!

[mingus]

Kobe was too late in his efforts to get Shaq to leave, the damage had already been done - Shaq was "da man" in lala land for those three 'chips, successfully excluding Kobe Bryant entirely from the player of the decade discussion for the last decade. he's was really ed either way, though, because if he'd tried to get him to leave earlier, he wouldn't have won anything. it was a no-win situation for Mr. Kobe.

maybe this decade, but we shall see. he'll be 35 by the time it hits mid-point. he'll have to do a eva lot in the first five years of this decade becuse he'll be up there in age halfway through.

[SpursDynasty]

Kobe only led his team to 1 championship.

[Shaolin-Style]

Weren't the lakers a terrible team for a year or two there who had the fairweather la fans hating kobe's guts until Pau Gasol showed up to save him?

And how quickly so many people with Shaq's decline forget his dominance in those 3 championships.

Aside from injuries Duncan has sustained hes always been a championship contender this decade, kobe was out of the picture for a while there so no, Kobe isn't the best of this decade, and certainly not the last decade.

[Culburn369]

Without Kobe in Portland in the 2000 Playoffs, we don't make the initial strike of the 3-peat. God only knows what would've happened if we hadn't gotten that first one. Media was all over Daddy already over his "being a champion at every level" malarkey. Kobe stopped it there and it didn't come back until Daddy rang/sans Kobe in '06. It then took Kobe 3 years to get it stopped again by ringin'/sans Daddy a few months back.

[Culburn369]

Kobe only led his team to 1 championship.

Yes, the 2000 NBA Championship.

[Culburn369]

Aside from injuries Duncan has sustained hes always been a championship contender this decade

His chronological inability to repeat leaves a stain upon his steps.

[Laker-fan-in-SanAnto]

His chronological inability to repeat leaves a stain upon his steps.

And first round exit 4-1 against the Mavs

[MaNu4Tres]

1 Finals MVP in 6 tries.


Enough said.

[Allanon]

Come to think of it. after "ringing sans Daddy", Kobe's transcended the decade discussion. Kobe will leave the decade discussion for the other guys to battle out.

Right now, Kobe's looking at a couple more Rings, MVP's and a shot at GOAT or #2 GOAT.

[Stand]

You obviously look for gay undertones. I personally prefer to look for your mom's snatch.

Actually I don't have to go looking for them. Yours are so just glaringly obvious they can't be ignored. So again is it to much to ask for you to keep those comments to yourself and your boyfriends?

Actually, you provided opinion. No matter how many times you repeat your opinion, it's still opinion. FAIL.

Actually, I provided fact. Thanks for FAILING, again. You do it so well that maybe you should try and make a career of it. Oh wait...

Hey if you like to spin around, feel free to.

You can spin it, dance away from it, weasel out of it, or just plain tuck. The fact of the matter is the question was asked and you are doing everything in your power to not answer it.

Nope you dumb . You posted where to look. I'm not doing your homework for you. Sorry.

God damn you are a whole other level of stupid. You have said so much dumb ass that you can't even keep up with it. So again, I already posted what you said. And once again I will have to ask you to try and keep up with the conversation. I mean how many times am I going to have to stop and wait for you to catch up?

Wrong again. I never shed blood but sweat and tears yes.

Oh I bet you shed plenty of tears.

Hey your mom has ghetto standards. I didn't come looking for her, she saw my black and was stuck on it. She likes the bonus gas station beef jerky I bring her too. We eat those instead of smoking a cigarette after I'm done pumping her.

Really it is cute that my momma is what you dream about. I think you might be aiming to high though.

Oh look, you didn't ask a question. Shocking.

It's sad that Koko the sign language talking gorilla has better comprehension than you.

Hey, you were the one to bring up momma's, don't be a hypocrite. Besides, don't be butt hurt now that I'm ing that ho, it's a public service.

Hypocrite...hahahaha...I swear you are about as dumb as box of rocks.

[Allanon]

Actually I don't have to go looking for them. Yours are so just glaringly obvious they can't be ignored. So again is it to much to ask for you to keep those comments to yourself and your boyfriends?

You were the only one that brought up the comments being "gay". Don't deny your looking for them. I had only brought up ing your mom, not your dad.

Actually, I provided fact. Thanks for FAILING, again. You do it so well that maybe you should try and make a career of it. Oh wait...

Actually you provided opinion. Thanks for FAILING again. You do so well, that probably is your career.

You can spin it, dance away from it, weasel out of it, or just plain tuck. The fact of the matter is the question was asked and you are doing everything in your power to not answer it.

I am not going to ask a stupid question. Learn to write a question or spin away.

God damn you are a whole other level of stupid. You have said so much dumb ass that you can't even keep up with it. So again, I already posted what you said. And once again I will have to ask you to try and keep up with the conversation. I mean how many times am I going to have to stop and wait for you to catch up?

Don't be this stupid. I am not going to do your homework for you. Quote it or keep making excuses.

Oh I bet you shed plenty of tears.

More of your misguided opinion? Hahah how typical of you

Really it is cute that my momma is what you dream about. I think you might be aiming to high though.

Nah, you said it yourself. Your mom's the filthy ho aiming for the "special kids". You have conveniently "forgotten" this eh?

It's sad that Koko the sign language talking gorilla has better comprehension than you.

It's so sad you have your head so far up your ass you can't smell the pwnage.

Hypocrite...hahahaha...I swear you are about as dumb as box of rocks.

Don't cry to momma after YOU talked about my momma and I started in' yo momma.

Simple as that; hypocrite. I swear you're as dumb as a box of tampons.

[Stand]

You were the only one that brought up the comments being "gay". Don't deny your looking for them. I had only brought up ing your mom, not your dad.

Fella, if you are walking around wearing a pink speedo and a feather boa it's going to be pretty hard not to notice. I'd have to be blind not to see what your flaunting. But whenever you are ready to come out of the closet I am sure you will have lots of Rapist fans there waiting to support you.

Actually you provided opinion. Thanks for FAILING again. You do so well, that probably is your career.

Actually, I provided fact. Thanks for FAILING, again. I'm starting to think you won the Mega Power Ball Fail jackpot.

I am not going to ask a stupid question. Learn to write a question or spin away.

You lack the ability to ask any other type. But regardless it isn't about you asking a question you clueless . It is about you ANSWERING the question that has already been asked.

Don't be this stupid. I am not going to do your homework for you. Quote it or keep making excuses.

I love it that you bring up pwnage when you clearly no longer know what you are trying to argue about. What exactly would I need to quote?

More of your misguided opinion? Hahah how typical of you

The truth might hurt, but it is still the truth. Now go cry yourself to sleep.

Nah, you said it yourself. Your mom's the filthy ho aiming for the "special kids". You have conveniently "forgotten" this eh?

I haven't forgotten what I said or changed what I said. The only difference is that I have gotten the full picture now, and know that this is one of your crack induced pipe dreams. Again it is cute that you are aiming so high.

It's so sad you have your head so far up your ass you can't smell the pwnage.

If not knowing about the subject you are talking about, being unable to support your bunk information with anything remotely like a legit source, blatantly ignoring facts that shoot down said bunk information, avoiding questions at all cost, not being able to keep up with the conversation at multiple points, and just being an in general dumb MF is pwnage. Then yes indeed, you are doing a fine job. Might fine.

Don't cry to momma after YOU talked about my momma and I started in' yo momma.

Where did I talk about your momma? Quote it or it doesn't exist.

Simple as that; hypocrite. I swear you're as dumb as a box of tampons.

Please do us all a favor and stop using words you clearly don't understand the meaning of.

[Allanon]

Fella, if you are walking around wearing a pink speedo and a feather boa it's going to be pretty hard not to notice. I'd have to be blind not to see what your flaunting. But whenever you are ready to come out of the closet I am sure you will have lots of Rapist fans there waiting to support you.

Now you're fantasizing about me wearing a feather boa? Sorry little fella, but I ain't into dudes...I'm into skanky ho's like your momma.

[quote]
Actually, I provided fact. Thanks for FAILING, again. I'm starting to think you won the Mega Power Ball Fail jackpot.

Actually, you provided opinion. Thanks for FAILING again. Check back with me when you get some facts.

You lack the ability to ask any other type. But regardless it isn't about you asking a question you clueless . It is about you ANSWERING the question that has already been asked.

You stupid , you have to ask a question to get an answer. Basic logic, duh.

I love it that you bring up pwnage when you clearly no longer know what you are trying to argue about. What exactly would I need to quote?

You never had a clue to begin with, it's been pure pwnage.

The truth might hurt, but it is still the truth. Now go cry yourself to sleep.

The only thing that hurts is your mom's asshole when it gets puckered by the dark meat.

I haven't forgotten what I said or changed what I said. The only difference is that I have gotten the full picture now, and know that this is one of your crack induced pipe dreams. Again it is cute that you are aiming so high.

Actually, I'm ing your mom, so that's aiming pretty low. But like I said, it's nice of her to give her time and ass to us "special kids".

If not knowing about the subject you are talking about, being unable to support your bunk information with anything remotely like a legit source, blatantly ignoring facts that shoot down said bunk information, avoiding questions at all cost, not being able to keep up with the conversation at multiple points, and just being an in general dumb MF is pwnage. Then yes indeed, you are doing a fine job. Might fine.

Stop Bull- ting me. You have provided nothing but opinion on Kobe. Don't come in here with your weak-ass opinions. Provide some facts or leave me alone with your mom.

Where did I talk about your momma? Quote it or it doesn't exist.

You quoted it yourself a few posts ago. I ain't doing your homework for you. Find it yourself, buddy; I'm too busy porkin' mommy.

Please do us all a favor and stop using words you clearly don't understand the meaning of.

Please do us all a favor and stop being stupid. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. BTW, be a good son and buy your momma a box of condoms, she's run out.

[Stand]

Now you're fantasizing about me wearing a feather boa? Sorry little fella, but I ain't into dudes...I'm into skanky ho's like your momma.

It seems like the half of you that is fighting to bust out of that closet is harming you overall continued mental state. Just embrace what you are man.

Actually, you provided opinion. Thanks for FAILING again. Check back with me when you get some facts.

Actually, I provided fact. Much like your ability to use the quote function you FAIL, again. Thanks for playing.

You stupid , you have to ask a question to get an answer. Basic logic, duh.

Well usually that is how it works. Of course with you I ask you a question and then you spend the next 10 pages alternating between out right avoiding and then denying a question was asked. So clearly when it comes to basic logic, you FAIL.

You never had a clue to begin with, it's been pure pwnage.

So what do I need to quote again? FAIL.

The only thing that hurts is your mom's asshole when it gets puckered by the dark meat.

There you go crying those Kobe and Fisher crocodile tears.

Actually, I'm ing your mom, so that's aiming pretty low. But like I said, it's nice of her to give her time and ass to us "special kids".

Exactly, you are aiming for my mom and so you are aiming high. if you were aiming for the guy, who going by your other comments you would probably prefer, who washes my car you would be aiming. Sorry son, but it isn't about them it is about you.

Stop Bull- ting me. You have provided nothing but opinion on Kobe. Don't come in here with your weak-ass opinions. Provide some facts or leave me alone with your mom.

And that is exactly why you have been PWNED son. You can't address one single one of your multiple FAILS.

You quoted it yourself a few posts ago. I ain't doing your homework for you. Find it yourself, buddy; I'm too busy porkin' mommy.

Much like I thought. You can't quote it b/c it doesn't exist. FAIL.

Please do us all a favor and stop being stupid. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. BTW, be a good son and buy your momma a box of condoms, she's run out.

Damn son, the FAILS are starting to add up. I'm raping you worse than a poor white girl locked in a room with Kobe. Your turning out to be a real glutton for punishment, but then that is probably your pillow biter side.

[Allanon]

It seems like the half of you that is fighting to bust out of that closet is harming you overall continued mental state. Just embrace what you are man.

Don't put your gay tendencies on me. Like I said, nothing personal, I just like ing that ho momma of yours.

Actually, I provided fact. Much like your ability to use the quote function you FAIL, again. Thanks for playing.

Actually you provided OPINION. Repeating your opinion doesn't make it fact. Try again.

Well usually that is how it works. Of course with you I ask you a question and then you spend the next 10 pages alternating between out right avoiding and then denying a question was asked. So clearly when it comes to basic logic, you FAIL.

No usually that isn't how it works. You haven't disproven . Go get some facts and get back to me. Until then, it is opinion.

So what do I need to quote again? FAIL.

I dunno, you can find some quotes about your mom leaving no hole unexplored if that's your thing. SUCCESS!

There you go crying those Kobe and Fisher crocodile tears.

Nah, those are yo momma's pussy is stank tears. Don't get them confused.

Exactly, you are aiming for my mom and so you are aiming high. if you were aiming for the guy, who going by your other comments you would probably prefer, who washes my car you would be aiming. Sorry son, but it isn't about them it is about you.

Sorry son, there you go with the gay comments again. How many times have I told you I like that skanky ass of yours.

And that is exactly why you have been PWNED son. You can't address one single one of your multiple FAILS.

Son, get out of here with that. You've been constantly pwned and don't even realize it.

Much like I thought. You can't quote it b/c it doesn't exist. FAIL.

. Try again, son.

Damn son, the FAILS are starting to add up. I'm raping you worse than a poor white girl locked in a room with Kobe. Your turning out to be a real glutton for punishment, but then that is probably your pillow biter side.

The only FAILure here is you son. But that's ok I've been tearing up your mom's piehole in more ways than you count. I'm thinking about going to Colorado and bringing that along. This is FUN, Son!

[Obstructed_View]

Kobe is already the undisputed player of the 2000's decade(4 rings, 6 Finals, 4-1 gainst TD in the playoffs, etc.).

By that criteria, Robert Horry is the undisputed player of the 2000's decade.

[An Unbiased Fan]

By that criteria, Robert Horry is the undisputed player of the 2000's decade.

Horry doesn't have multiple All-NBA/All-D 1st team selections like Kobe.

[Chucho]

Duncan: 3 les, 2 MVPS, 2 Finals MVPs, highest winning percentage in over twenty years, never missed playoffs

Kobe: 4 les, 1 MVP, 1 Finals, missed playoffs once

Shaq: 4 les, 1 MVP, 3 Finals MVPs, missed playoffs once

I'd go Duncan, Shaq, Kobe based on accomplishments. Kobe, Shaq, Duncan in star power.

[mavs>spurs2]

Duncan: 3 les, 2 MVPS, 2 Finals MVPs, highest winning percentage in over twenty years, never missed playoffs

Kobe: 4 les, 1 MVP, 1 Finals, missed playoffs once

Shaq: 4 les, 1 MVP, 3 Finals MVPs, missed playoffs once

I'd go Duncan, Shaq, Kobe based on accomplishments. Kobe, Shaq, Duncan in star power.

[Stand]

Don't put your gay tendencies on me. Like I said, nothing personal, I just like ing that ho momma of yours.

Actually I do take it personal when you come on to me. Really though it is perfectly fine that you want to act like you are keeping your pillow biting firmly in the closet, but it is also clear that you don't understand the "don't tell" part in "don't ask, don't tell". Keep it between you and your daddy. Wait my bad, you probably don't know who your dad is. FAIL at life, son.

Actually you provided OPINION. Repeating your opinion doesn't make it fact. Try again.

I actually I provided FACT. Repeatedly ignoring facts doesn't make it opinion. Try again.

No usually that isn't how it works. You haven't disproven . Go get some facts and get back to me. Until then, it is opinion.

If that usually isn't how it works then why did you say otherwise? Are you so far lost that you can't even remember what you said from your very last post? But anyway, ignoring you confused ramblings and getting back on topic, answer the question. Oh yeah, that is a double FAIL, son.

I dunno, you can find some quotes about your mom leaving no hole unexplored if that's your thing. SUCCESS!

I already quoted where you said my mom explored all of your holes. So actually that's a....wait for it.....FAIL, son.

Nah, those are yo momma's pussy is stank tears. Don't get them confused.

My Ebonics translation book tells me that you just said you got your pussy hurt and that is why you have been crying for the last ten pages.

Sorry son, there you go with the gay comments again. How many times have I told you I like that skanky ass of yours.

Didn't you hear that mentally unstable peoples opinions don't count? So really you can say it till you are blue in the face.

Son, get out of here with that. You've been constantly pwned and don't even realize it.

And once AGAIN that is exactly why you have been PWNED, son. You can't address one single one of your multiple FAILS.

. Try again, son.

As some in the closet said, "quote it or it doesn't exist." So try again with your FAIL, son.

The only FAILure here is you son. But that's ok I've been tearing up your mom's piehole in more ways than you count. I'm thinking about going to Colorado and bringing that along. This is FUN, Son!

Oh, but of course you find it fun to get repeatedly raped. So while in reality this is just another FAIL, in your case you can probably call that one a success.

[Allanon]

Actually I do take it personal when you come on to me. Really though it is perfectly fine that you want to act like you are keeping your pillow biting firmly in the closet, but it is also clear that you don't understand the "don't tell" part in "don't ask, don't tell". Keep it between you and your daddy. Wait my bad, you probably don't know who your dad is. FAIL at life, son.

Hahah, even after this long, your mongo brain can't realize that you're the one finding the gay situations. Look, don't blame me if your mom likes letting black guys her. That likes it rough and hard; that's why she came looking for me.

I actually I provided FACT. Repeatedly ignoring facts doesn't make it opinion. Try again.

Actually, you provided opinion. Repeating your opinion over and over again doesn't make make it a fact. Thanks for playing.

If that usually isn't how it works then why did you say otherwise? Are you so far lost that you can't even remember what you said from your very last post? But anyway, ignoring you confused ramblings and getting back on topic, answer the question. Oh yeah, that is a double FAIL, son.

Hahah, what a delusional little you are. You still have done nothing but provide opinions. Get back to me when you have some FACTS, son. Fail.

I already quoted where you said my mom explored all of your holes. So actually that's a....wait for it.....FAIL, son.

Delusional yet again. You never quoted that. God you're so stupid you can't even remember what you wrote.

My Ebonics translation book tells me that you just said you got your pussy hurt and that is why you have been crying for the last ten pages.

Not at all Masta', we's black peoples gots the thick skinz and big s to poke them holes in yo momma's snatchies.

Didn't you hear that mentally unstable peoples opinions don't count? So really you can say it till you are blue in the face.

Hey if you'd like to come out of the closet that's fine by me. I never brought up the gay stuff, you repeatedly tried to bring up gay talk. Nothing against gays and sexuals, but I only like putting the meat to your mom.

And once AGAIN that is exactly why you have been PWNED, son. You can't address one single one of your multiple FAILS.

And once again, you have failed to do anything but provide opinion. Your heads so mixed up in your delusions of grandeurs that you haven't come up with anything pwn worthy.

As some in the closet said, "quote it or it doesn't exist." So try again with your FAIL, son.

Sorry , I ain't doing your homework. Don't be lazy.

Oh, but of course you find it fun to get repeatedly raped. So while in reality this is just another FAIL, in your case you can probably call that one a success.

No, no son, you're confused. It's your mom that likes to play the rape game; how do you think you were born? She let's me tie her up and start slapping her around with mah . Maybe that's where you're getting this from. She told me she wants be like Kate. SUCCESS!

[Obstructed_View]

Horry doesn't have multiple All-NBA/All-D 1st team selections like Kobe.

That wasn't in the criteria you listed. And if you're going to add those to the list, Kobe just got curbstomped by Tim Duncan.

[mogrovejo]

Kobe only led his team to 1 championship.

When he wasn't even the best player in the league, he just had a terrific supporting cast.

Weren't the lakers a terrible team for a year or two there who had the fairweather la fans hating kobe's guts until Pau Gasol showed up to save him?

Yeps.

Mogrove....your a ING idiot...


There are so many variables in your idea that close games are won out of luck. What is a close game? The definition varies for each person. A good team can battle back from 20 points and might come up a short....a bad team will rarely battle back from 20 so there is no loss counting against their close games record. East/West talent ratio. West has a higher quan y of quality teams.

Bottom line...the team with more talent and the better team will win FAR more close games than a ty team. If you don't want to ing believe this than God help you. No graph can ing prove me wrong either....

The article defines what a close game is.

Bottom line, the history proves you wrong. Saying that teams with more talent win far more close games than a ty team is like saying that the Lakers record versus the C's in finals is not 2-9 or that the Spurs didn't beat the Mavs 92-83 yesterday. That graph isn't just made up, it isn't a speculation or an hypothesis. It's hard data: the scores of NBA games. You're basically saying that you don't believe in the scores of past NBA games. Can you understand how dumb, nonsensical and bizarre that is? Not as dumb as saying that Kobe was the player of the decade, but still...

75% is too high, that's obviously alot more wins than losses and would prove the quality of a team is very important in determining close games.

The Graph says 60% is the correlation so that's the line for the bet.

I take 60% and over. Mogro says 60% and under.

We'll test this correlation graph.

Deal Mogro?

OK Mogro, here's the bet. If you still stand by your words that this is luck let's see you put your sig where your mouth is.

Your graph says that quality of team doesn't factor in much in win/losses. They project 60% win total in close games.

The Bet is:
The graph shows 60%. I'll spot you 5% and give you 65%.

I will take Over 65% Laker wins in close games, you take UNDER 65% Laker wins in close close games. 65% exactly results in a tie.

Close wins defined by the Article with the graph says 5pts or less. At the end of the season, we count up all the Laker 5pt games and figure out the win/losse percentage based on all of them.

Loser puts what the winner wants in loser's sig.

Do you accept this SIG bet?

Uh? It's amazing: you still haven't understood the graph. If you are so statistically illiterate, why don't you ask for explanations?

Do you even know what a correlation is? It's a relationship between 2 or more variables or set of data. Which are those variables here? Winning % in close games and winning % in non-close games. Unlike you dumbly seem to think, the graph isn't supposed to be a predictor of how many close games teams are going to win. They don't project 60% of wins in close games or anything of that kind. Btw, if you knew how to read the graph, you'd see that it points out a correlation around 0.45. So, what you're saying is simply nonsensical. Even if it wasn't, we don't even know what is going to be the Lakers winning % on non-close games, so how could we make a bet on the dependant variable value? And if my point is that close games are decided by luck, why would I take such a stupid bet, like % of close games won? Luck is, by definition, not controllable, and such a bet would simply be won by the luckiest guy. I don't like bets based only on luck. If you could read the graph, you'd see some teams win almost 90% of their close games - and it isn't because they're any good, because some of those have losing records.


"Your graph says that quality of team doesn't factor in much in win/losses" - no it doesn't. It says that the importance of quality in close games is grossly mitigated - the reason teams have superior records is because they win lots of blow-out games - obviously because they have quality. I don't know how can I explain this better. You're a lost cause.

"OK Mogro, here's the bet. If you still stand by your words that this is luck let's see you put your sig where your mouth is."

Agreed. I say the Lakers winning so many close games is luck and they won't keep it up - I've been saying that since the first post. If you disagree, put your sig where your mouth is: accept the bet that they will keep winning close games at this pace or that they'll keep this overall winning %. This is the only bet that makes sense considering our positions (unless you're once again backing out).

I can't keep this conversation going on forever. 2 or 3 days have passed. Accept the bet like a man or my bet with Lakaluva will take effect.

[Allanon]

The article defines what a close game is.

Bottom line, the history proves you wrong. Saying that teams with more talent win far more close games than a ty team is like saying that the Lakers record versus the C's in finals is not 2-9 or that the Spurs didn't beat the Mavs 92-83 yesterday. That graph isn't just made up, it isn't a speculation or an hypothesis. It's hard data: the scores of NBA games. You're basically saying that you don't believe in the scores of past NBA games. Can you understand how dumb, nonsensical and bizarre that is? Not as dumb as saying that Kobe was the player of the decade, but still...

Don't be stupid. Where does that graph contradict what I was saying. I said QUALITY teams such as the Lakers. You're trying to push the failures of other teams on me. What I say applies to the LAKERS; prove that wrong.

Uh? It's amazing: you still haven't understood the graph. If you are so statistically illiterate, why don't you ask for explanations?

I can understand the graph just fine. I see the correlation for OTHER teams included in with the Lakers. I say this correlation does not apply to a quality team like the Lakers.

Do you even know what a correlation is? It's a relationship between 2 or more variables or set of data. Which are those variables here? Winning % in close games and winning % in non-close games. Unlike you dumbly seem to think, the graph isn't supposed to be a predictor of how many close games teams are going to win. They don't project 60% of wins in close games or anything of that kind. Btw, if you knew how to read the graph, you'd see that it points out a correlation around 0.45. So, what you're saying is simply nonsensical. Even if it wasn't, we don't even know what is going to be the Lakers winning % on non-close games, so how could we make a bet on the dependant variable value? And if my point is that close games are decided by luck, why would I take such a stupid bet, like % of close games won? Luck is, by definition, not controllable, and such a bet would simply be won by the luckiest guy. I don't like bets based only on luck. If you could read the graph, you'd see some teams win almost 90% of their close games - and it isn't because they're any good, because some of those have losing records.

Again, how does any of this contradict what I was saying? How does this apply to the Lakers?

"Your graph says that quality of team doesn't factor in much in win/losses" - no it doesn't. It says that the importance of quality in close games is grossly mitigated - the reason teams have superior records is because they win lots of blow-out games - obviously because they have quality. I don't know how can I explain this better. You're a lost cause.

So WTF are you arguing about. This is exactly what I am saying minus the "blow out games" qualifying factor.

"OK Mogro, here's the bet. If you still stand by your words that this is luck let's see you put your sig where your mouth is."

Agreed. I say the Lakers winning so many close games is luck and they won't keep it up - I've been saying that since the first post. If you disagree, put your sig where your mouth is: accept the bet that they will keep winning close games at this pace or that they'll keep this overall winning %. This is the only bet that makes sense considering our positions (unless you're once again backing out).

Don't be stupid. The Lakers are on a 100% close game winning percent. Why would I take your bet at 100%? That's idiotic. I never once said the Lakers would win 100% of their close games. If you can quote where I said this, I'll take your 100% bet. But you won't find it.

On the other hand you presented a graph that says the correlation is minor between quality of team and wins in close games. It says it's about 60% which would indeed mean that quality doesn't really matter.

I think the Lakers are beyond the scope of your graph.

I will give you an extra 5% so the line is drawn at 65%.

Even your fellow Boston Celtic fan says 65% would be fair. I get over 65% and you get under 65%

Either stand by your words or back out like a pussy, it's up to you.