Strip Club Visits Contradict Contrived Stereotype Of Fort Hood Shooter

[whottt]

so what you are saying is....
we can't just flood their country with s and expect democracy?
what happened to you theory of a pussy whipped nation being rational?
i say just send every run of the mill celebutant to the ME and in five years we'll either have a pussy whipped ME or less trash reality shows, either way its a win!

That actually not anything remotely close to what I am saying...and they have s in the ME anyway. I don't considers pros ution a sign of femal liberation anyway, it's pretty much total subjugation of them and the first manner in which it was done.

In any case, I probably should have this discussion with someone who has the slightest clue about September 11th...because if anything this ties him even closer to the Islamic ideology of Usama Bin Laden with regards to what is proper conduct among infidels...

You see not only was it ok for those 9/11 guys to go into a strip club according to Usama, he encouraged it.


Anyway, it's not really woth the effort of explaining this, I'll save that effort for someone who has actually read something he's said. You'd think if someone was going to involve themselves in discussions about what is and is not Islamic terrorism they might to take the time to actually listen to something he's said at some point.

[Galileo]

Fort Hood Mystery

by Michael Gaddy

First is the report the perpetrator was dead and then hours later the revelation that he was still alive. Exactly how long does it take to determine if a person is dead or alive? Could it be no one knew whom the shooter or shooters were and a story had to be concocted for public consumption? What happened to the two other "suspects" that were detained? What did they do to qualify as suspects and more importantly, what information surfaced that led to their release? One of the suspects reportedly stated he "was with the shooter."

Second is the number of victims from a single shooter. Let us not forget this shooting did not occur at the mall, it occurred on a military installation where the victims had been trained in military tactics and some were combat veterans. We are to believe they did nothing to stop a single shooter and he was allowed to reload several times and continue shooting and the only thing that stopped him was the arrival of a police officer after the gunman had gunned down over 40 people?

Third was the shutting down of communications in and around Ft. Hood for hours. While the Army and the media will explain this in various scenarios, it also provided the Army with a chance to create whatever story it was they wanted to provide the public on the terrible tragedy. Of course we all know the Army would never distort or lie about the facts involving the deaths of innocents. Well, there is that My Lai thing. People on the ground have told me cell phone towers were jammed to prevent unauthorized dissemination of information after the shooting. Again, the Army would not want any information contrary to the company line emerging from this disaster.

MORE:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/gaddy/gaddy72.1.html

[Galileo]

Second Gunman In Custody At Army's Fort Hood - Report

Nov 9, 2009

DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

A second gunman is in custody after a shooting at the Army's Fort Hood in Texas in which at least seven people were killed and 12 wounded, reports KCEN-TV of Waco. The report comes about two hours after a first suspect was captured, shortly after gunfire broke out.

Authorities say the gunmen were dressed in fatigues, though it's not confirmed whether they are military personnel. It's also not known if the victims were military personnel or civilians.

The incident reportedly began at Fort Hood's theater and then moved to the Soldier Readiness Processing Center, Killeen City Public Information Officer Hillary Shine told Fox News. A graduation ceremony was scheduled to take place Thursday.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-mar...ort-hoodreport

[whottt]

This enitre discussion about whether or not he is a terrorist is a stupid one anyway.


#1. This was a not a terrorist act. At least as I define the term. It' pretty stupid to claim it is actually. This was not a civillian target and the primary purpose was not harm them. This was a military target aimed at military personnel. That is not terrorism as I define the term.


#2. That doesn't mean he's not a terrorist. A terrosit is anyone who subscribes to a terrorist ideology, and this guy clearly does.


Even if it's just promoting the distrust and persecution of muslims, which is also pretty obviously what Usama wants to do.

[Wild Cobra]

This enitre discussion about whether or not he is a terrorist is a stupid one anyway.


#1. This was a not a terrorist act. At least as I define the term. It' pretty stupid to claim it is actually. This was not a civillian target and the primary purpose was not harm them. This was a military target aimed at military personnel. That is not terrorism as I define the term.


#2. That doesn't mean he's not a terrorist. A terrosit is anyone who subscribes to a terrorist ideology, and this guy clearly does.


Even if it's just promoting the distrust and persecution of muslims, which is also pretty obviously what Usama wants to do.

Yep, I tend to believe he just cracked.

[DarrinS]

It was PTSD -- PRE traumatic stress disorder.

[panic giraffe]

That actually not anything remotely close to what I am saying...and they have s in the ME anyway. I don't considers pros ution a sign of femal liberation anyway, it's pretty much total subjugation of them and the first manner in which it was done.

In any case, I probably should have this discussion with someone who has the slightest clue about September 11th...because if anything this ties him even closer to the Islamic ideology of Usama Bin Laden with regards to what is proper conduct among infidels...

You see not only was it ok for those 9/11 guys to go into a strip club according to Usama, he encouraged it.


Anyway, it's not really woth the effort of explaining this, I'll save that effort for someone who has actually read something he's said. You'd think if someone was going to involve themselves in discussions about what is and is not Islamic terrorism they might to take the time to actually listen to something he's said at some point.

i didn't even mention anything about pros ution. meant as in the sense...but you're too busy reading bin laden to read anyone else, right?

[whottt]

Yep, I tend to believe he just cracked.

I tend to believe they anyone who murders someone period is always a little cracked, whether are a terrorist or not. It changes nothing.

This guy does not have to have received any direct orders from any terrorist organization or any organization period to be classified as a terrorist or a traitor. He simply has to be sympathetic to their causes and show a willingness to act on their behalf.

[panic giraffe]

I tend to believe they anyone who murders someone period is always a little cracked, whether are a terrorist or not. It changes nothing.

This guy does not have to have received any direct orders from any terrorist organization or any organization period to be classified as a terrorist or a traitor. He simply has to be sympathetic to their causes and show a willingness to act on their behalf.

so by that logic, should a neo-nazi face nurmberg like trials for subscribing to a belief?

from what i've read so far on the guy its not so much as he felt sympathetic to their cause as he was passionate about american intervention in the ME.

[whottt]

i didn't even mention anything about pros ution. meant as in the sense...but you're too busy reading bin laden to read anyone else, right?

It's not my fault you said when you meant . I suggest you take it up with the dictionary, maybe you can do that before you read up on Usama and 9/11...you might even go to a house to really figure it out.

[panic giraffe]

It's not my fault you said when you meant . I suggest you take it up with the dictionary, maybe you can do that before you read up on Usama and 9/11...you might even go to a house to really figure it out.

maybe you should learn what an idiom is in between lessons fm bin laden

[whottt]

so by that logic, should a neo-nazi face nurmberg like trials for subscribing to a belief?

Logic? My logic says that is not my logic since you left off a rather important part of what I said and the change was fundamental.

And in answer to your question as you posed it, no, if that were they case I'd be in favor of pretty much every lib on this forum being incarcerated in Gitmo. And I'm not.

from what i've read so far on the guy its not so much as he felt sympathetic to their cause as he was passionate about american intervention in the ME.

Well since the terrorists are first and foremost passionate about American intervention in the ME, like say, the US Army being based in Saudi Arabia, their military and financial support of Israel(those are a couple of those little reasons cited for 9/11 by Usama, you really would do yourself a huge favor to actually read up on anything concerning 9/11 btw)...I'd say that definitely qualifies as being sympathetic to their cause, and ...add in that whole murder of 13 people thing, that really clinches sympathy for their cause, but I'm just silly and prone to drawing linear obvious conclusions like that.


You are probably right though, the strip club probably does prove beyond all doubt he's just crazy, I mean, no terrorist or anyone about to engage in a terrorist act would ever go into a strip club. And that really should be the end of it.

[whottt]

maybe you should learn what an idiom is in between lessons fm bin laden

It's not my fault you think means more than it means pros ute and that hardly ever means pros ute.

Already adressed earlier, by the way, I'm just waiting on a post card from you when you visit the house.

[panic giraffe]

It's not my fault you think means more than it means pros ute and that hardly ever means pros ute.

Already adressed earlier, by the way, I'm just waiting on a post card from you when you visit the house.

i will, as soon as i pull the cash from the automatic clerk machine.

nice to know you don't want me at gitmo.

[whottt]

You've been duped.

No Mr. Galileo, I have not been duped.

You want to know why? Because I have always included the possibility that the Bush Admin was behind 9/11 in my decision making.


While I find you to be one of the more interesting posters and have enjoyed the fact that you actually own people on faulty logic more than anyone wants to admit....it doesn't really matter.

I don't really know exactly what your 9/11 theories are and am not going to pretend to...if it's got anything to do with radio controlled planes I'll pass on that one.



But you see, you could tell me that Usama Bin Laden is actually a Pro-Western Operative working entirely at the disposal of the Bush Admin and working entirely to actually increase the US presence in the ME, you could the entire concept of Islamic Terrorism is a Jewish Conspiracy or whatever you want...and that the WTC collapse was aided with explosives and the entire thing was a government/zionist whatever plot...


And it would not change anything my eyes, I mean I already fully support the worst we can do to whoever is behind it.

It would not have changed my vote in 2004. It would not have changed my vote in 2008 once McCain recanted his statement about staying Iraq against the will of the Iraqi Govt.


And I would still believe the threat of a nuclear terrorist act against the US is a very real one. I don't care who is controlling what...the foot soldiers are real, and it's only a matter of time till they are in control one way or another. And a particular generation of that particular group want nuclear armageddon...period, not conditional upon controlling or influencing us. Hopefully we got all of that generation in Iraq and Afghanistan...but somehow I don't think we did.


I did not vote for Bush in 2000, in fact I threw a storm about it, and I accurately called that night, we would be increasing our presence in the ME, and we would likely be back in Iraq very soon.



These were not particularly difficult insights to come by given the policies of Mr. Bush's Father, how he ran his baseball team and the corrupt fashion he governed the state Texas and influenced the University of Texas, and who his backers were.

BTW, it's also not to hard to look at Obama' track record(which consitutes of Obama advancing Obama himself, and literally nothing else) and see who his backers are...and it's at best as bad as anyting that was behind Bush. In fact the guys behind Obama make the guys behind Bush look like chidren. And he'ds got lot more of them behind him too.

I was also not in favor of the Iraq War, in fact I was completely opposed to it.

I'll just spell out my philosophy for ya, on why I wasn't duped...


Because pulling out of Iraq was the absolute stupidest move.

If you hit someone with a car, you cannot undo that by driving off, it doesn't miraculously mean you did not hit the man with the car, it does not make the deed go away, whether you did it intentionally or accidentally, or he deserved it or not, and so when you drive off, especially when everyone knows you hit the guy with the car, the only thing you accomplish by doing that, is become less of a human being, more of an idiot, and a coward, a known unrespected coward idiot that will never be trusted again, and in addition to tall that the consequences for the person you hit with the car, and yourself, become much much more dire.

And that's not even taking into account what you wll face from the guy you hit should he walk away from it.

And there is absolutely nothing you could tell me about 9/11 that would change my opinion on that.

You can talk to me about illegal immoral wars till you are blue in the face, and pulling out will not suddenly make it legal and moral or something that never happened, and there's still sombody lying there, that you just hit with a car.


Best to do the right thing at that point.

When you are about to drive off a cliff rapidly, you do not throw the car in reverse, it will do nothing but strip your gears and ensure you go over the cliff. You gently apply the breaks and you steer the car away from the cliff.

Once you are over the cliff, you definitely do not keep trying to put the car in reverse....you start looking for the best position to be in when you hit.


What we have now is a car that has gone off a cliff and collection of idiots arguing about whether the car should be in drive or reverse....the difference between them is that the idiot trying to put the car in drive at least realizes we are going to hit no matter what whereas the guy who wants it in reverse does not, he thinks putting it in reverse is somehow going to put us back up on the cliff. IOW, he's a thoroughy hysterical idiot, either that or he wants to crash with no landing prep.

I was not duped.

[clambake]

uh oh.

[EmptyMan]

Does affirmative action apply to Muslims in the military?


Just when I thought this bat- circus country could not get any crazier.

[Drachen]

and since he's at BAMC they could just take him to paradise and have a girl "coax" the truth as to why he went on this rampage...j/k, line the er up for a firing squad.

Paradise?? are you trying to get him to kill more people??

[Galileo]

Fort Hood Shooting 'Oddities'

By Lori Price, Updated: 10 Nov 2009

CNN: Over one hundred shots were fired in the attack. (Logic dictates that 'over one hundred shots' were not fired by a single individual, surrounded by military personnel and special police forces.)

CNN: FBI was investigating Major Nidal Hasan six months ago.

Curiouser and Curiouser: -Video surfaces of alleged shooter, Major Nidal Hasan, attending Homeland Security Task Force conference --Major Hasan's name appears on page 29 of The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Ins ute's 'Thinking Anew—Security Priorities for the Next Administration' --Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force - April 2008 - January 2009. The report is dated 19 May 2009.

Numerous media accounts: Major Hasan's neighbors, medical trainers, colleagues, friends, cousin, uncle, grandfather-- even the store owner to where he bought his food -- all heap praise on Major Hasan's temperament. This appears to be psy-ops, six ways to Sunday. --LRP

The alleged shooter received his medical degree from the military’s Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md., in 2001 and is a graduate of Virginia Tech. Early on Thursday, he showed no signs of worry or stress when he stopped at 7-Eleven for his daily breakfast of hash browns, said Jeannie Strickland, the store's manager. "He came in (Thursday) morning just like normal," she said, "nothing weird, nothing out of the ordinary."

http://www.legitgov.org/attack_on_fort_hood_051109.html

[panic giraffe]

Paradise?? are you trying to get him to kill more people??

haha
that place is stanky to say the least.

[panic giraffe]

so galileo, what if the wounded just say it was him and him alone? or do you think they will be silenced too?

[admiralsnackbar]

so galileo, what if the wounded just say it was him and him alone? or do you think they will be silenced too?

By Harry Reid

[Galileo]

so galileo, what if the wounded just say it was him and him alone? or do you think they will be silenced too?

Let's hear from all the witnesses, including the ones who saw two men with rifles.