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I am going to assume you have no proof of a fabrication.
Google "Curveball."
I am going to assume you have no proof of a fabrication.
just the proof that they didn't exist.
You mean you refuse to google "Curveball"?
You're ignorant and lazy and incurious.
I didn't know they were part of the evil republicans.
Thanks for the lesson.
So how can you post such garbage? Trying to keep up with Propaganda Dan?
Come on WH, you're better than that. This should show you that VCS is not a reputable group.
We need to get out of Afghanistan. Nothing to win there. Every few years we send in a division or so, clear out some of the rats, and leave again.
Iraq is winding down. Lets just get 'em home and caller' a day.
Then neither is the US Department of Defense. There would be no need to make estimates if the DoD actually reported the statistics it most assuredly keeps.
We now have 3 pow's in Afghanistan that we will more than likely never see again. The longer we're there, the more of this is going to happen and it's not even like the Vietnam war much less WWII that you get 'em back once it's over.
How would you like your kid to be fighting in a war that if you're taken prisoner it's ..'Oh well'.
Nobody does.
I am simply appauled that such mis-information in propagated.
The VCS incorrectly adds casualties, than calculates the numbers without intelligent thought to 370,000 brain truamas? WTF? My assumption is that they took the 18.5% of the 1.9 million, which is OK for the 350,000 PST. I won't try to dispute the mental trauma that war causes. Then they take the 19.5% number with the number of sopldiers rather than of injured soldiers. Now that way the added the numbers, I don't know what it should be, but I say they intentionally played with the DoD and RAND numbers. I will make a guess that the brain trauma will be about 19.5% of 49,665 minus what the illnesses were. If that reduces us to 20,000, then 19.5% is about 3,900. A far more reasonable number than 370,000, which is larger than the number of injured soldiers.
How does one get brain trauma without being injured?
Baaah...each of those numbers is a unique person with a unique injury. Virtually everyone I know, without exception, had gone to Iraq or Afghanistan and come back free from injury or mental disability. One put a down payment on a resort motel on a lake with the money he made, which is quite good apparently. But everyone I know has walked away from it in fine shape. Just a job. Which is not to say all do and that people haven't suffered and served and gaven their all and I would hope we will care for them to the best of our ability.
I heard the latest on how many had served in Iraq or Afghanistan and I believe the number was 3 million. So, contrary to popular belief, it's not the same people over and over and over. EVERYONE I know did one tour and that was that. My own son did ONE tour, and that was that. HE came home, enrolled in school, and goes on with his life.
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Still, a very significant number of casualties. DOD lowballs it. Veterans groups err on the other side. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. You can argue about the true number, or you can reflect on the sacrifice made. It is already considerable, no matter what the true number is.
Well, when you select a Veteran's group that counts many soldiers twice, how can be believe your take on the issue?
The 50k number in wiki is likely an older number. The 90k number is definately wrong. Maybe the true number is about 55k.
I wonder if your loved veteran's group count for time sickness and time last inlcuded women's monthly cycles, stubbed toes, etc. Since they spun the numbers, I wonder just how far they did?
Yeah. One also must put into perspective the reasons for each of these wars and the consequences applied to even being in them.
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