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None so blind as those who will not see
they can't find comfort without the label, manny.
None so blind as those who will not see
Maybe you can explain it to me then Darrin.
Well, for starters, he was supposed to giving a medical presentation and instead presented that.
According to those in attendence, when he was challeneged on some of his ideas, he was visibly upset and just stared the person down.
I like what it says on slide 46 (or is it 48?).
"We love death more than you love life."
Who is "we"?
I'm not talking about the presentation Darrin. I'm not able to see what he or others said in those slides, am I? When I look at the slides I don't get some sort of video camera into the actual presentation, do I?
As for the we love death, I believe that is a quote or a misquoted Osama Bin Laden saying. If its attributable to Hasan then more depends on the context of what he was trying to say, but if its just a quote then in the reference of the other slides he's framing how Muslims may view the war.
Its quite possible the entire presentation was given not out of religious extremism but out of a desire to not server given what he viewed as a personal conflict. In fact given the presentation and the aftermath, I find that far more likely.
Then he should have declared himself a conciensious objector rather than yelling out "Allahu Akbar" and murdering 13 people.
Actually, a true conciensious objector would have difficulty murdering anyone.
Manny,
If something looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, why are you so reluctant to say it's probably a duck?
I agree Darrin, he should have taken a different route and not killed anyone. Really, that's an amazing stance you've brought up.
I wonder if we can get others to agree that Hasan murdering people was bad?
I should know better by now. I know you're incapable of having a nuanced conversation so why am I surprised when we're discussing a group of slides and you jump to WELL MURDER IS BAD?
Because I want to actually see if its a duck. Why are you in such a hurry to call it a duck? Does it change anything? Are the victims any less dead? Why is the discussion focused on Hasan and not on what the Army may have failed to do?
Army equals government. Our politicians have failed us not the Army.
The Army dropped the ball jack. it happens..it's ok.
why are you so reluctant to wait until all of the facts are out before making stupid claims?
Is anybody else having trouble understanding this statement?
He rarely makes much sense in fact he's taken aback how politicians don't live up to their campaign promises. he's short bus special.. but we love him nonetheless
I still fail to understand why it's anyone elses fault other then the crazy guy that shot everyone?
We have an accountability issue in this country.
If I smell smoke in my house, my fire alarm goes off, and then I see flames outside my window, I might just think there's a fire -- but that's just me.
The Army made mistakes -- the main one being that they couldn't recognize Hasan for what he is. There's that saying, what is it, something about connecting the dots?
By the way, calling the 911 hijackers jihadists, islamic extremists, or terrorists doesn't change 911 and doesn't make the victims of 911 any less dead. BUT, learning to recognize our enemy may prevent future terrorist attacks and that is PRECISELY the point.
It's the feminization and psycho-babble-ization of America, and, more specifically, the American left.
Uh. Wow.
let's work in some more buzzwords that mean nothing. It's a nice replacement for actual analysis.
The right is desperately trying to politicize this and make the left accountable. Darrin's posts prove it.
It's easy to understand. Our Army does what our government wants. You get that part, right. Lets say it again. Our Army does what our government wants. (makes the CIA BS Obama is doing even more stupid everyday)
This bag should have never been in the Army. BUT the politicians make the rules and they had no choice but to put him in and as they learn about him, keep him!. Could you imagine a German in the US Army durning WWII saying " I am German first"
"Lets let the fat ass become a police officer even though he can't run"
"Lets not give anyone a promotion because no minorities past the test."
This thinking makes our country weak! Dumbass.
You could conclude that the act was an act of terrorism given that:
[A] he commited a dangerous act or crime (mass murder)
[B] against civilians/non-combatants (enlisted men at home, not armed, and not yet deployed for battle)
[C] with the apparent intent to cause a shift in policy (to force the US Army to change its current policy on non-deployment of Muslim enlisted men who like the shooter would ask not to be forced to fight other Muslims).
I see Christians often proclaiming God before country. That's no excuse for Hasan's actions, but it is true.
Your problem is -- you can't read, you stupid .
I was addressing johnsmith's point about there being a lack of accountability in this country, specifically PERSONAL accountability.
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