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For the record of course i would love to have fedor fight in the UFC as I was talking in the past but whatever. He still have 2 fights under m-1 promotion. i wonder what they can figure out?
They weren't two years ago and now everybody making a big deal that there are 2 or 3 HWs in the ufc Fedor would have major problems with
For the record of course i would love to have fedor fight in the UFC as I was talking in the past but whatever. He still have 2 fights under m-1 promotion. i wonder what they can figure out?
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma....ail&gid=198826
...Jerry Millen, M-1 vice president, said Emelianenko is free to fight Lesnar if UFC drops its demands regarding co-promotion. Millen said the more-experienced Emelianenko would "smash" Lesnar, a former college wrestling champion and World Wrestling Entertainment performer whose "ranking looks manufactured."
Added Millen: "Fedor's not ducking anybody. If UFC wants to prove it has the best fighters, step up and co-promote. Fedor just wants to be treated fairly. The UFC business model is to own the souls of their fighters. Fedor doesn't have to do that, and if the fans scream loudly enough, we can make that happen."...
Yes they were 2 years ago, everyone was saying Fedor needed to come to the UFC after Pride was bought by them and that was about 3 years ago.. There's nobody for him to fight in SF at all.. That is the point. Where will he get the most pub? The UFC. Where will he get the biggest fights? The UFC. Where will he secure his legacy? The UFC.They weren't two years ago and now everybody making a big deal that there are 2 or 3 HWs in the ufc Fedor would have major problems with
Yes lets have M1 a non-existant mickey mouse operation come in and dictate the terms of a Fedor fight and take money from the UFC they don't deserve so the UFC can put on a fight with Fedor, who has never made any company any money.. Great idea..
UFC will never co-promote ever and they should not have too..
The Fedor comment was in jest. He has no reason to drop weight, unless he wants to prove to he's the best P4P fighter. Sorry if you Fedor lovers were offended. lulz.
If he really wanted to face Lensar, he'd drop the bull "ask" of co-promotion.
..and to the other comment. There is up and coming talent all the time, you don't necessarily have to fight for X number of years to be a contender, or top contender. 2 or 3 years, though, is definitely enough time for someone to make a case as a top contender.
I do agree with you here on almost every pointYes lets have M1 a non-existant mickey mouse operation come in and dictate the terms of a Fedor fight and take money from the UFC they don't deserve so the UFC can put on a fight with Fedor, who has never made any company any money.. Great idea..
The one thing I do not agree is that he already secured his legacy
How has he secured his legacy? From fights in 2005..
lol at this thread. Last year every ing mma fan in the world wouldnt shut the up about "The UFC's heavyweights ing suck!!!!" "Affliction has the best HW's in the world!"
You throw in Lesnar and a and suddenly the UFC is the cream of the crop of the HW division. news flash. Outside of about 5 HW's, all MMA HW's are pretty much average or suck a . Fedor doesnt need to chase Lesnar. hes the king of mma, no matter where he fights. Dude just needs to retire in his throne.
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LOL Fedor doesnt give two s about his legacy or American publicity. Hes not GSP. If it was his decision he would probably be in the UFC imo.. but m-1 is stubborn and i dont think he really gives a .
You obviously didnt watch Pride...
Thats like saying Tom Brady needs to win another Super Bowl to secure his legacy because he hasnt won one since 2005..
What walking re said this??
Fedor doesn't have to Chase brock but Brock sure as dsoesn't have to chase him either. He is fighting in the best MMA company with the best compe ion, not Fedor. And the UFC heavy class is very very good right now. Brock, Cain, Carwin, Kongo, Gonzaga, Mir, Nog, dos Santos etc.. That's a good class of fighters and yes i know he beat Nog down years ago but i would love to see him fight Brock, Shane, Cain, Mir and Kongo. He beats Kongo, Mir, and maybe Shane and Cain but still i want to see those fights. He has no fights in SF that mean anything.. Rogers, he beat so what's left is Overeem, if he ever feels like getting off the juice and coming back from Japan..Fedor doesnt need to chase Lesnar. hes the king of mma, no matter where he fights. Dude just needs to retire in his throne.
There was a time when Affliction had Arlovski, Sylvia, Fedor, and Barnett.
I heard it everywhere including this forum.
I watched Pride and he was great there but some of the Pride guys that came to the UFC and fell apart hurt his record there big time. Cro-Cop gave him a of a fight, everyone said he'll come to the UFC and own the division? How'd that one work out?? Nog's been up and down at best in the UFC. And a bad comparison on your part. Everyone knows who Tom Brady is, Fedor here in the US really nobody knows who he is. So hardcore fans like you put him on a mountain and say he is untouchable, everyone else shrugs their shoulders..
Nog is the only one on that list with a legitimate resume. Kongo and Gonzaga beat a old stained version of Cro Cop. Mir.. has never beat anyone signifigant in his career. Lesnar, Cain, Carwin are all rising stars but neither have really yet to prove themselves. IMO you have to have 4-5 legitimate wins. Dont even bring up Dos Santos.. You would have put Rogers on the list if he was in the UFC.
Arlovski was inconsistant in the UFC and so was Tim, so i don't see how anyone could feel that way at all. Two so so heavies left the UFC and went elsewhere big deal.. They've both done nothing since leaving..
Right.. but both were considered "bad ass" in their early UFC days.. thats why im not sure why everyone is so sold on Cain and the whole crew.. Arlovski looked untouchable when he first hit the scene too.
Right there is the problem with the Fedor Argument as Oligarchy has been saying.. You champion his Pride record with the * of guys like Nog and Mirko were at their best there so the UFC records mean nothing. Cro-Cop got his ass kicked in the UFC and that was seen as one of Fedor's big fights. Oligarchy is dead on with those points.. If Fedor was in the UFC it would not matter but he isn't so it does..
LOL sure we all thought cro cop would dominate but Mirko didnt think he would. The Cro Cop and Nog of pride would have dominated the UFC. CC even admitted he lost the fuel in the tank. Nog should be undefeated in the UFC. Mir fight doesnt really count when he had staph. And what does it matter if American fans dont know who Fedor is. Are you that ignorant to think that MMA is only popular in the U.S. and the American opinion is the only one that matters. The real MMA fans know he is the best. Who gives a if average joe doesnt know the truth and thinks Cain would smash him.
No way of knowing this, i'm not much for guessing games..
What i do know is Cro Cop sucked in the UFC and Nog has been good but not great..
He fought and got beat, he didn't look any better against Randy to me. He just had a smaller less powerful guy in front of him who should be fighting at 205 and has no power in his hands..Nog should be undefeated in the UFC. Mir fight doesnt really count when he had staph.
I'm simply point out that nobody knows who he is here, when you threw Tom Brady line at me..And what does it matter if American fans dont know who Fedor is.
Good for them, i'd rather know he is the best by seeing the man fight big fights against great fighters. Not cans in a second rate promotion..The real MMA fans know he is the best.
Point is.. Fedor is the best on the planet, no matter what public opinion in the U.S. is. We would all like to see him in the UFC. Its not happening for a while so get used to it, but dont try to take any credit for what the guy has done in his career just because he is not fighting Cain or Lesnar next month. He will be in the UFC before too long either because he feels the pressure of American fans and does not sign another deal with m-1 or what i think will happen.. Strikeforce will fold in the next 2 years and he will see its his only option other than retirement, because im not sure Dream will be around either.
To be honest i don't know who Tom Brandy is
All i know is that I can drink brandy
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
by Jake Rossen ([email protected])
Dana White has a better understanding of media relations than virtually any sports personality alive. Beat writers want inflammatory quotes; White gives it to them. It’s the reason he’s such a pervasive presence, and it’s helped make his brand synonymous with combat sports. Geniality is boring. Meltdowns create hits and move copy.
Saturday’s Strikeforce telecast is an open invitation to solicit White, because everyone involved knows what they’re going to get. It’s approaching performance art.
“CBS made its biggest mistake partnering with a tiny, small show with a roster no one cares about,” White told Yahoo Sports Wednesday. (Wind him up and watch him go.) “Just because you read on MMA.TV that someone is a superstar doesn’t make it true. This should prove that no one out there gives a [expletive] about Fedor.”
White is referring to the roughly 5.5 million viewers who tuned in for the Fedor Emelianenko/Brett Rogers bout, a number that bests the 4.7 million who tuned in to see Anderson Silva embarrass James Irvin in the summer of 2008. And if you believe White went on to proclaim that “no one gives a [expletive] about Anderson Silva,” you are an interesting person.
Thankfully, Yahoo’s contributor left the recorder on. “If I hear any of you guys [sportswriters] calling Fedor the best pound-for-pound, I’m going to go postal,” White raved. “Do you think Brett Rogers would have lasted two minutes with Brock [Lesnar]? What do you think Cain Velasquez would do to him?”
What Velasquez would do to him is speculation, but we know what Emelianenko would do to the guy about to fight Velasquez for the UFC’s number-one contender’s slot: Emelianenko punched a hole in Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira’s head on three separate occasions. So either he’s really a pretty good fighter, or White concedes he’s granting le opportunities to washouts.
This could go on for days. Some purists are going to seize up at the mention of these comments, but a sizable number of fans with a more recreational interest take White at his word. Strikeforce really didn’t need an Emelianenko. They needed a Dana White.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles...ound-vii-20864
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