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    I blame Pop and Finley for this.

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    The co-author "favors a national health care program similar to those in Britain and Canada." The guy is also the creator of Physicians for a National Health Program
    So if you want a system like GB or Canada, then you will believe this study. I do not. This is an estimate. This is like the NRA coming up with a study about gun violence. It would clearly be biased.

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    "The uninsured have about a 40 percent higher risk of dying each year than otherwise comparable insured individuals," Himmelstein told AFP.
    "Putting that all together you get an estimate of almost 2,300 -- 2,266 veterans who die each year from lack of health insurance."


    This is a joke. Who posted it? - Deduct 10 points from integrity and try again.

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    Started, continued the war that sent them there.
    Had no heath care plan for these soldiers.

    Your hero.
    Eh, not my hero, but your logic is re ed........much like your posts.


    The numbers are for those under the age of 65. That means many of these people could have been say 55 years old.

    Are you blaming Bush for Vietnam now too?

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    Eh, not my hero, but your logic is re ed........much like your posts.
    Bringing attention to vets dying due to lack of medical care is "re ed"?
    Another selfish 'Pugnatin view.

    The numbers are for those under the age of 65. That means many of these people could have been say 55 years old.
    And therefore worthy of death. Oh wait, they still might vote.

    Are you blaming Bush for Vietnam now too?
    Do you have some information that he puppeteered that war also?
    Are vets who served in that war deserving of death also or should they be given medical care?

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/healthusinsurancemilitary
    WASHINGTON (AFP) – The number of US veterans who died in 2008 because they lacked health insurance was 14 times higher than the US military death toll in Afghanistan that year, according to a new study.

    The analysis produced by two Harvard medical researchers estimates that 2,266 US military veterans under the age of 65 died in 2008 because they lacked health coverage and had reduced access to medical care.
    Fire Pop.

    2,300 out of 1.5 million is a drop in the pond. 1 in 652. Yet this is somehow an epidemic.

    The government should fix its other problems first, like its crappy education system. Whats the point in making poor people live longer when they grow up to flip burgers and sell drugs?

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    Bringing attention to vets dying due to lack of medical care is "re ed"?
    Another selfish 'Pugnatin view.


    And therefore worthy of death. Oh wait, they still might vote.


    Do you have some information that he puppeteered that war also?
    Are vets who served in that war deserving of death also or should they be given medical care?
    See, here's the problem, you posted an article, then blamed Bush. I pointed out that Bush wasn't responsible for Vietnam, and then you decided to make the thread about healthcare again.

    You can't have it both ways, just admit that you tried for a backhanded jab that was borderline re ed, got called out on it, and the only thing you can think of doing is change the subject...................you should run for public office.

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    Fire Pop.

    2,300 out of 1.5 million is a drop in the pond. 1 in 652. Yet this is somehow an epidemic.
    Except all 1.5 million servicemen were not in need of healthcare in 2008.
    Nice try Sparky. Run the numbers again legitimately.

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    I pointed out that Bush wasn't responsible for Vietnam,.....
    and the only thing you can think of doing is change the subject.
    10/10 on the lameness hypo scale.

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    The government should fix its other problems first, like its crappy education system. Whats the point in making poor people live longer when they grow up to flip burgers and sell drugs?
    Votes.

    There is a reason a smaller and smaller minority are paying everybody's taxes.

    One man gets one vote. One man pays for 50 men. 50 men have 50 votes. One man has one vote.

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    "The uninsured have about a 40 percent higher risk of dying each year than otherwise comparable insured individuals," Himmelstein told AFP.
    "Putting that all together you get an estimate of almost 2,300 -- 2,266 veterans who die each year from lack of health insurance."


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    No kidding.

    That equates to about 0.15% of the veterans under 65 without health insurance. I wonder what the balance of them is considering how many of the Viet Nam vets are just under 65, and maybe lacking in health already.

    Now I wonder how that compares to the same number when cross checked by age of the American public at large, under 65. I'll bet the numbers are very similar.

    Without a control population, these numbers are meaningless, and probably nothing more than misdirection and propaganda.

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    Eh, not my hero, but your logic is re ed........much like your posts.


    The numbers are for those under the age of 65. That means many of these people could have been say 55 years old.

    Are you blaming Bush for Vietnam now too?
    Yes, lib s blame Bush for Viet Nam because he didn't get any medals like Kerry did.

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    votes.

    There is a reason a smaller and smaller minority are paying everybody's taxes.

    One man gets one vote. One man pays for 50 men. 50 men have 50 votes. One man has one vote.
    +1

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    10/10 on the lameness hypo scale.
    Really? That's the best you can do? You aren't very good at this are you?

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    "smaller and smaller minority are"

    ... getting everybody's money, and they are paying less %age taxes than a larger and larger majority.

    Warren Buffet admitted there is a class war (rich vs not rich) and his class is winning.

    It's amazing how you not-richers are so supportive of the rich ripping off the bottom 98%.

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