He's still a really good player but not an All-NBA player anymore.
I think thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard
Why the would Timmy need to score 20ppg when the Spurs just added 20ppg in place of Bowen? Timmy is still shooting over 50% and his # of shots per game is down to 11 from 14.
There's only 1 basketball and many hungry mouths to feed.
Look at Duncan's rebounding numbers..he's almost at 12 rebounds a game and that's good for #3 in the NBA.
Timmy's giving up some of his shots to and is rebounding like mad...and for this he gets labeled as "serviceable"?![]()
The comeback to this is: Look at the All-NBA team. Tim Duncan made it every year he's been in the league (12 times). The last 2 years he has "slipped" to 2nd team behind some combo of Howard or Garnett or Dirk. If that doesn't make him one of the top 3-5 big men in the league today I don't know what does.
I think you'd trade him for Dwight today just because Howard is younger. I don't think you'd trade him for Dirk or Garnett.
I don't think anyone else would even be in the discussion of a trade. Amare? Thanks, no. Gasol? Closer but I don't think so. Yao is done, probably. Shaq is too old.
Tim's abilities then and now and his real contributions and greatness won't ever be appreciated until after he retires. He's the best PF in the history of the NBA for a reason. And for all you doubters the best part is that Tim Duncan doesn't give a tinker's damn what you think. Underestimate Tim Duncan now at anytime at your own risk.
Cool. The last big man for the Spurs who kept getting called serviceable was Rasho.
Clearly, Tim = Rasho.
what local radio said this garbage? im surprised they have enough balls to go on and say something like this in S.A
To hear the story, some believe that the 2006 Spurs were just more Rasho minutes away from a le.
So if "Tim = Rasho" and if "more minutes for Rasho = le," then Pop just needs to give Tim more minutes and ensure a le.
I knew some crap like this was coming from some when we won two in a row and looked better than when he was in there, you could see it coming from a mile away.
He is still an all star and all NBA player when healthy, I would not really call that just servicable. He has lost a step or two true indeed and we all know that, but he is still Tim Duncan at times and thats enough.
Simply re ed and idiotic.
This always has been and always will be TD's team until the day he retires. So Tony scored 3 more ppg than him last year, the overall impact Tim has on the game (both sides of the ball) is still miles ahead of anyone on this team including Tony. He's coming off of a 19,11, and 2 season when was the last time a 'serviceable' big man put up those numbers? Or unless theyre basing their assertion on the 5 games Timmy has played this season, 4 of which were blowouts and in which minutes where limited which would make them even more re ed for going off of such a small sample. Barring any major injury, Timmy will still make All-NBA and All-Defensive Teams.
OK. so give me 6 big men better than him in this league.
If healthy the above is complete BS as Duncan consistently does the things that win and do not always show up in the stats. If healthy he will also still average near or above 20 and 10 and was near the top of rebounds and PER leaders when injured.
Agreed.
If he wanted to, Tim could put up 20 every night but he doesn't need to and I think he likes it that way.
A typo. In my haste and shock of hearing what I heard...I didn't spell check.
Though the word "serviceable" shouldn't need to be spell checked.
My bad.
It's kind of a strange comment that isn't really backed up by anything..
Duncan is putting up 15 PPG, 12 RPG, 2 APG, 1.5 BPG on 54% shooting in just 29 MPG..Duncan is currently #1 on the team in defensive +/- which is expected..while he is no longer elite defensively, he's still good enough to impact a game, especially when you consider that he has very little defensive support around him in the frontcourt(this should change with McDyess picking up on the system, and now that Bogans is actually stopping people on the perimeter)..
Duncan is #3 in the NBA in rebounding despite only playing 29 MPG, which is pretty crazy..the only big men with a higher PER are Bosh and Howard(barely)..he's easily a top 5 big man passer in the NBA, which makes him valuable no matter what..
Pretty impressive for a guy that still hasn't gotten in a basketball rhythm yet..Duncan has only had 1 bad game so far, and then we learned that he played that game(Portland) on a bad ankle that was injured the night before, so he probably shouldn't have even been playing..
The only guy comparable to Duncan if we're looking to compare is KG, and he's putting up worse numbers than Duncan..these guys have stacked teams, they don't have to carry them, especially not in November..
That's so true. I can remember during the 2005 run, that was practically his nickname.
The question I had then and I restate now is, what the does serviceable mean? Who on our team is servicing Tim? Or is Tim servicing someone else. I don't get the label.
I get the implication though--Tim is less than he was. The same was said of David Robinson in 2003, but his defense and rebounding helped us clamp down and win the championship.
As for Tim's offense, Allanon is right. In 1999 our offense consisted of dumping the ball to Tim in the post. 10+ years later, the team has more scorers and more offensive versatility. Tim's just not going to get the touches he did then, but it doesn't mean he isn't an effective offensive player.
Was that local show host SpursTalk's own loveable Peter Burns?
...he's apt to say just about anything. 'Just sayin'
We are a jump shooting team now. Even Tim Duncan settles for lame 15ft shots mainly.
If TD can just be stout on defense come playoff time, I will be happy.
He's Tim Duncan though. Tim Duncan. God bless him. Damn this league when TD is retired and gone.![]()
Moreso than in years past but the Spurs are still averaging 41.43 points (42% of their points) in the paint/game and they do have slashers in TP, RJ and Manu.
like every other season they say hes just getting too damn old OH wait what they clinched their division oh wait theyre facing l.a in wcf then its man timmy is still the best power forward to play the game!! watch these guys are so stupid timmy i think will be just as good as hes ever been watch what happens mid season, and watch them swallow their words it happens every damn year
I'll take Duncan's "service" any day of the week.
Don't know who it was. But I wouldn't buy a ticket to listen to their "professional" opinion if I did.
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