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In this case, actual evidence that meets Part B of the code you posted.
I think we'll find out soon enough. Your premature judgment may indeed be correct. No need to be so indignant in discovering you were premature.
Interesting case. Also a tidbit... Falls Church, VA has a large amount of contractors working there, as it's a semi HQ for DISA (Defense Information Services Agency). Seems like that Imam picked a good place to try to influence service members and/or gov contractors.
In this case, actual evidence that meets Part B of the code you posted.
I think we'll find out soon enough. Your premature judgment may indeed be correct. No need to be so indignant in discovering you were premature.
Hospital: Ft. Hood shooting suspect awake, talking. He was taken into custody and eventually moved to an Army hospital in San Antonio, where he was in stable condition and able to talk
he's premature in every aspect of life.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7514
Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009 —
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News
http://gawker.com/5401562/how-abc-ne...al-qaeda-scoopABC News' Brian Ross has a breathtaking record of recklessly inaccurate, overhyped stories that don't live up to the headline. His scoop yesterday about Nidal Malik Hasan's "attempt to reach out to al Qaeda" was one of them.
Which wouldn't be the first time. Ross reported—inaccurately—after the anthrax attacks in 2001 that the powder contained a "potent additive...known to have been used by only one country in producing biochemical weapons - Iraq." He laundered CIA agent John Kiriakou's lie that the agency only used waterboarding once, for 30 seconds, when in fact Kiriakou wasn't even in the same country as the secret prison where his colleagues waterboarded two men a total of 266 times. He fell for the lies of Alexis Debat, a grifter and fraud who masqueraded as an intelligence expert. And he hyped his access to the phone records of DC madam Deborah Jean Palfrey for days, but only came up with the names of two low-level clients.
Rep.: Pakistan wire transfers traced to Hasan
By Angela K. Brown and Suzanne Gamboa - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Nov 13, 2009 18:35:50 EST
FORT HOOD, Texas — The Army psychiatrist charged with killing 13 people in a shooting spree at Fort Hood made or accepted wire transfers with Pakistan, a country wracked by Muslim extremist violence, a Republican congressman said Friday.
Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, the ranking GOP member of the House Homeland Security Intelligence Subcommittee, said people outside the intelligence community with direct knowledge of the transfers also told him Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan also had communications with Pakistan.
“He may have friends or relatives or whatever and this could be totally [innocent],” McCaul said in a telephone interview. “But if he is wiring money to Pakistan, that could be terrorist financing. If he was receiving money from Pakistan, that is more significant.”
McCaul said he does not know the direction of the transfers and communications, only that they passed between Hasan and Pakistan. He said the lack of additional information is why Congress should launch an investigation.
Hasan, 39, was charged Thursday with 13 counts of premeditated murder in a military court, and Army investigators have said he is the only suspect in the case and could face additional charges. His attorney, John Galligan, has said prosecutors have not yet told him whether they plan to seek the death penalty.
A pair of civilian police officers responding to last week’s attack, in which 43 people were also injured, including 34 with gunshot wounds, shot Hasan four times. Recovering in the intensive care unit at San Antonio’s Brooke Army Medical Center, Hasan has told his attorney he has no feeling in his legs and extreme pain in his hands.
Galligan said doctors have told Hasan he may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down. He called his client’s medical condition “extremely serious” and said Hasan didn’t flinch when Galligan touched his leg during a meeting Thursday, when one of Hasan’s relatives was able to see him for the first time since he was hospitalized.
Hospital spokesman Dewey Mitc said he could not confirm whether Hasan was paralyzed, since Hasan has directed hospital officials not to release any information about his condition or injuries.
The question of how Hasan spent his Army salary stems from the apparently frugal lifestyle he lived both in the small city of Killeen, Texas, outside of Fort Hood, and in the Washington, D.C., suburbs when stationed at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. In Texas, he lived in a rundown apartment that cost $350 a month and drove a 2006 Honda.
As an Army major with more than 12 years of service, Hasan earns just over $92,000 a year in basic pay and housing and food allowances, according to pay tables from the Defense Finance and Accounting Service. Hasan’s gross monthly salary is $6,325.50 a month, or $75,906 annually. He also gets $1,128 a month for a housing allowance and $223 a month for meals, which adds up to another $16,212 a year.
Military psychiatrists may also receive as much as $20,000 a year in incentive pay, according to the tables. But to get the bonus, they must meet certain requirements, such as agreeing to remain on active duty for at least one year after accepting the award. Hasan’s Army records are sealed due to the ongoing investigation, and it isn’t clear if he was eligible for the bonus or agreed to the conditions.
President Barack Obama has ordered a review of all intelligence related to Hasan and whether the information was properly shared and acted upon within government agencies. Several members of Congress, particularly Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, have also called for a full examination of what agencies knew about Hasan’s contacts with a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen and others of concern to the U.S.
Hoekstra confirmed this week that government officials knew about 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and the radical imam, beginning in December.
A joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI learned late last year of Hasan’s repeated contact with the cleric, who encouraged Muslims to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. The FBI said the task force did not refer early information about Hasan to superiors because it concluded he wasn’t linked to terrorism.
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Gamboa reportered from Washington. Associated Press writer Richard Lardner in Washington contributed to this report.
So nobody really knows anything about the transfers except that Republican members of intel committees in congress are really eager to talk about it.
I don't think he said "Allahu Akbar!" -- it was probably some random gibberish. And, if you put 50 monkeys in a room with PC's, they'll eventually bust out a 50-page PowerPoint presentation on the Koranic world view as it relates to muslims in the US military. Said monkeys will also give lifeless death stares to anyone challenging their ideas.
Are you having another fantasy about your morbid and lifeless sense of humor?Said monkeys will also give lifeless death stares to anyone challenging their ideas.
We can play with definitions all we want, but what we know for fact is that Muslim extremists are at war with the west, and this guy clearly chose to associate himself with that cause.
Call this an act of war/terrorism.... however you want to paint it, this man killed Americans in the name of an ideology...you can't dance around that fact.
Why does the fact matter so much? Would the case be much different if he had killed in the name of another ideology/religion?
What other religion is attacking free elected governments, and trying to replace with their Islamofacist govt?
Why do you libs always have to bunch up all religions to excuse the violence of Islam?
There are christian subcultures in every country in the Middle east. Never are they trying to overthrow their govt. or killing people in the name of Jesus. Even in Iran where they are being killed just for being Christian, they do not resist and fight with their church.
There are plenty. Why restrict yourself to islamofascism, so-called?What other religion is attacking free elected governments, and trying to replace with their Islamofacist govt?
BTW, when did *islamofascism* become a recognized world religion?
It's all about moral ethics, and consequentialism...if these muslim extremists believe that their actions are for the good in the end, then no matter what they had to do to get to that end, it is moral.
It flies in the face of Judeo-Christian ethics which we perceive as natural law(divine law), or right and wrong being independent of the will of man.
Exodus 32:27 is part of Judeo-Christian ethics too. Christians share it in common with Judaism and Islam.It flies in the face of Judeo-Christian ethics which we perceive as natural law(divine law), or right and wrong being independent of the will of man.
Fiery intolerance of false idols is a family resemblance.
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What other religion is attacking free elected governments, and trying to replace with their Islamofacist govt?
I take issue with the claim that islamofascism even exists as an ideologically, religiously or politically coherent movement at all, still less that it has any serious political extension.
The caliphate claptrap is pure conspiranoia on our side.
Mathew 26:52
Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
John 15:12-13
12 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
This is a far stretch even for you.
Intolerance of false belief is a common point. Kooks may take it to include Old Testament style rampages. The three Abrahamic creeds do have Moses in common.
I don't see how that's even controversial.
You are ridiculous. Just admit that you talked out of your ass.
Not at all. Why don't you consider the point?
The three major world religions relevant to this conversation include Moses.
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