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    This might be a good short-term solution to get us some more wins but IMO it would be evading the central problem than solving it.

    The problem is how will a 5-man unit with multiple offensive weapons mesh together. Whatever we do now, later in the season we are (hopefully) going to finish games with the 5-man unit of TD/Dice/RJ/Manu/TP. These guys need to understand how to keep everyone involved.

    The last decade or so, the Spurs' rotation had at most 3 offensive weapons to share among. So you had at least 2 players camping out beyond the arc waiting for some open looks. And Pop's offensive playbook with his crunch-time unit was relatively simple: TD in the post, or Manu/TD high pick-n-roll or TP breaking down the D.

    That was fine as long as we had Bowen and Horry standing still waiting for the pass. This year's team has different personnel. What we lost in 3-point shooting, we have gained in other areas (RJ attacking the basket, Dice and his mid-range game). Pop needs to diversify his playbook ASAP.

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    parker will realize, eventually, that he doesnt have to do all the scoring anymore

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    I know you think Hairston should get a look, timvp..
    +1

    Need to see what the youngsters can do. Even give Haislip some burn Ratliff didn't play tonight, see what he can do maybe he will play better then he did in preseason.

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    Good idea. Bench Duncan and start Bonner while you're at it.
    It's not like parker is the best player ever. Its not all about parker.. its about team basketball. The spurs played better as a team with hill starting at pg. Btw screw bonner he shouldn't even get playing time

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    I believe Pop will probably try it within the next five games. I think it will actually work as the long term starting lineup, but we'll see.

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    Pop feeling obligated on giving Finley and Mason PT out of respect will hurt this team more than help in the long run.


    Pop may be a great X's and O's coach, perhaps the best in the NBA.

    But his respect and loyalty with some players runs on fumes sometimes.


    I'm hoping Spurs are offered a can't say no deal for their expiring contracts, so this team can actually reach it's full potential.

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    I would start our best players like every other NBA team. Then manage the rotation as things develop.

    And to be honest, I don't know if Tony is out of shape or just not interested in playing D, but Pop needs to find out soon

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    It's not like parker is the best player ever. Its not all about parker.. its about team basketball. The spurs played better as a team with hill starting at pg. Btw screw bonner he shouldn't even get playing time
    wow

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    Pop feeling obligated on giving Finley and Mason PT out of respect will hurt this team more than help in the long run.
    I don't think he feels obligated to them. He's been more than kind to Finley over the years, since Fin is a Duncan-Popovich favorite. And RMJ just hasn't done much to prove that he's worthy of beating anyone out for minutes. My opinion is that RMJ will be gone by the trade deadline.

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    It's not like parker is the best player ever. Its not all about parker.. its about team basketball. The spurs played better as a team with hill starting at pg. Btw screw bonner he shouldn't even get playing time
    With your logic the team played better without Duncan should we sit him also because its about team basketball its not all about Duncan.

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    Pop feeling obligated on giving Finley and Mason PT out of respect will hurt this team more than help in the long run.


    Pop may be a great X's and O's coach, perhaps the best in the NBA.

    But his respect and loyalty with some players runs on fumes sometimes.


    I'm hoping Spurs are offered a can't say no deal for their expiring contracts, so this team can actually reach it's full potential.
    out of respect

    you dont know about basketball

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    Even though I like what Bogans has been doing defensively, I think Pop would rather have somebody who is much more dynamic like Hill, who is able to defend and score.

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    And RMJ just hasn't done much to prove that he's worthy of beating anyone out for minutes. My opinion is that RMJ will be gone by the trade deadline.
    Saw this day coming months ago. I hope he is packaged to bring in a solid wing behind Jefferson/ Manu or a solid legit big man next to start with Tim.

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    With your logic the team played better without Duncan should we sit him also because its about team basketball its not all about Duncan.
    Only if duncan isn't playing healthy. When duncan is healthy the spurs play better with him. Duncan usually works hard on defense and tries to get the team involved on offense.. parker on the other hand has been very weak on defense and usually doesn't get the team involved on offense.

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    out of respect

    you dont know about basketball
    I know I'm learning.

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    Only if duncan isn't playing healthy. When duncan is healthy the spurs play better with him. Duncan usually works hard on defense and tries to get the team involved.. parker on the other hand has been very weak on defense and usually doesn't get the team involved.
    Duncan looked pretty good tonight, and while parker is a scoring PG hes a much better distributor then Hill even when he's rusty. Offense would go pretty stagnant I believe if Hill became the primary ball handler for long streches.

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    no sweat, you're better than alot of others

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    Am I the only guy who liked it when Roger Mason started? I wish he started knocking down his 3's again.


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    no sweat, you're better than alot of others
    So since Parker dribbles the ball up the court does that make him a forward?

    Since he is moving forward towards his teammates?

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    Am I the only guy who liked it when Roger Mason started? I wish he started knocking down his 3's again.

    Maybe we should bring back Steve Smith and Steve Kerr too and start them since they can still hit the 3 at a high percentage.

    Who cares about defense anyway right?

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    So since Parker dribbles the ball up the court does that make him a forward?

    Since he is moving forward towards his teammates?
    is this a joke?

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    Duncan looked pretty good tonight, and while parker is a scoring PG hes a much better distributor then Hill even when he's rusty. Offense would go pretty stagnant I believe if Hill became the primary ball handler for long streches.

    Parkers main problem is that he holds on to the ball way too long and when he does that, nothing good comes out of it. He either ends up taking a bad shot of he sets somebody up for a bad shot. The main reason I want hill to start is because of his defense. With his energy on defense the rest of the team feeds off of it and obviously the spurs really need stronger defense if they have any shot at winning a championship.

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    It's an interesting idea.

    Another way to go would be to start Manu and make RJ the 6th man in the Manu role, which would lead to plenty of opportunities for him.

    ed if I know what to do except FREE DICE! That man needs to start.

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    Parkers main problem is that he holds on to the ball way too long and when he does that, nothing good comes out of it. He either ends up taking a bad shot of he sets somebody up for a bad shot. The main reason I want hill to start is because of his defense. With his energy on defense the rest of the team feeds off of it and obviously the spurs really need stronger defense if they have any shot at winning a championship.
    So do you believe in Hill's playmaking and PG abilities rather then Parker's.

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    Only if duncan isn't playing healthy. When duncan is healthy the spurs play better with him. Duncan usually works hard on defense and tries to get the team involved on offense.. parker on the other hand has been very weak on defense and usually doesn't get the team involved on offense.
    Parker does need to do a better job of getting others involved. But it doesn't mean he doesn't start. Parker has been asked over the past 2 years to do what he is doing now. Score.

    The offense's plan needs to change in order to make that happen. Parker driving the lane without a cutter to distribute to is what stagnates the whole thing most of the time he can't score off of penetration.

    This of course would mean a player or two actually having to move off the ball in order to make that happen as well. As it stands now...Parker penetrates and everybody waits.

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