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    The spurs will not win with tim and Tony consuming all the shots. They take away from better athletic players like Jefferson and George Hill. The defense sets in when we post up tim. Tim should not be our main weapon anymore. On to parker. He is coming off an injury but this same happened last year. We lost him for 5 games or so and plugged in George. We were getting team chemistry goin and then Tony comes bak and messes that up to. Tony should focus on distributing to better and healthier players when his game aint going on as opposed to trying to break off his shooting rust..pathetic. RJ dissapears thanks to Tim and Tony. RJ shouldnt adjust to Tim and Tony..Tim and Tony must adjust to him and the rest of T.E.A.M

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    Duncan and RJ actually had a good amount of plays together tonight..a lot of handoffs up top, and Duncan looked to get it to him after he'd get it in the high-post..it just wasn't there..Duncan played an efficient game tonight, and he wasn't stopping the ball, so there shouldn't be any criticism there..

    It's not on Tony and Tim to adjust though, it's on the coach..

    Jefferson's game isn't suited to be dribbling up top and getting by his man..that's not his game..he can do it once in a while, but that's not his style, and it's not efficient enough to be that of a #1 scorer..that's what he's doing in these bad games though..he's also becoming a spot-up shooter next to Tim and Tony..

    Pop is the coach..he needs to mix it up..Jefferson's game is best suited when he catches the ball on the move to the basket, when he comes off screens for curls, when he catches it in the post..that's the adjustment he has to make..

    Tony is a shoot-first PG, so it's not going to be easy to mix them together..Pop is one of the best though, so he'll get it..

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    Duncan played well though. Tony hogging the damn ball like he is Iverson is the problem and was sometimes last year, he plays too much one and one and gets a bad shot in the end.

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    rj is a slasher NOT a spot up...tp is treating him like finley and others..this takes away a lot of rj's slashing ability...coz by the time tp hand the ball to rj, there just isn't enough time on the clock for rj to get his shots anymore...tp + rj is just not a good combo thus far offensively ...coaches need to work them better together...

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    I agree with the notion that this isn't a player personnel problem. It's a coach problem.

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    Manu is clearly the best passer on the team. RJ, and to some extent Blair, have benefited from being on the court with him.

    I so agree with the recent Buck Harvey article, where he stated that inasmuch as RJ was going to have to adjust to playing with TP and TD, THEY would also have to do likewise. Couldn't agree more.

    All the players, but TP, specifically, need to look for RJ and ensure he's involved. He's already shown what a valuable weapon he'll be to this team. It's stupid to have him on the court as an expesive decoy.

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    It's not exactly Tony's fault..he has a coach..

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    A coach that still plays Finley over a younger Roger Mason Jr?! PATHETIC

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    ^^ Exactly. Let's stop blaming the players. If the team as a whole is less than the sum of the individual parts, it's a coaching problem. I'm surprised Spurs fans are still taking it easy on Pop given his recent track record:
    - Giving Finley more minutes through the last 2 seasons
    - Giving Bonner more minutes
    - Not playing Hill enough last season, especially in the playoff loss vs Dallas

    Pop got it right when he said something to the effect of "If We Don't Win, I should be Fired"

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    This is not intended to blame TP. However, he IS the PG and as such, a coach on the floor, to a large degree. Therefore, his responsibilities of quarterbacking the team include sensing when his teammates are getting off, who is on a roll, running the offense, taking advantage of defensive mismatches, etc.

    Of course, he's a shoot-first PG. Up until this year, he's had to be. Let's face it - TP can and will get his offense, when he's in rhythm, anytime he wants. Now, he's got more weapons at his disposal than at any time since he's been a Spur. It's probably time to adjust a bit.

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    I believe the last time the Spurs had this much talent starting, Pop never really found a solution, other than sending one of the players to the bench (Manu). I would really hate to see RJ coming off the bench because we can't make him anything but a spot up three point shooter while he's out there with Tim and Tony.

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    Oh yea and poor Tony he doesnt know when he has to pass.

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    Clearly.

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    I believe the last time the Spurs had this much talent starting, Pop never really found a solution, other than sending one of the players to the bench (Manu). I would really hate to see RJ coming off the bench because we can't make him anything but a spot up three point shooter while he's out there with Tim and Tony.
    It might come down to having Manu start and RJ off the bench..

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    tp assist were up last year
    he can pass

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    Another night Tim Duncan shoud've broke Robinson 70 pt record... I mean come the on already...no one on the court could guard him and the offense is ran through bonner...

    wtf?

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    It's not exactly Tony's fault..he has a coach..
    A coach who hasn't won a thing since that guy PJ left.... Hmmmmmmmmmmm. I like Pop but as far as a coach goes on offense at times he leaves alot to be desired, some of his plays and decisions are very questionable.

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    tp assist were up last year
    he can pass
    Yeah he CAN Pass, but he also can dribble the clock out like Francis used to do and shoot a bad shot, he plays too much one on one alot of times.

    I am a Parker fan, but sometimes I question his decisions with the ball.

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    Yes I agree that Tony took to many shots, but Jefferson had a lot of touches and all he did for the most part was get rid of the ball as quickly as he got it. And Manu looks like he is hurt again. And Sequ is absolutely correct about Tim the numbers are deceiving, Tim was never a factor on offense or on defense. he should have absolutely killed Collison and Nened.

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    It might come down to having Manu start and RJ off the bench..
    Don't think so. Besides, the Spurs have demonstrated some difficulty generating offense in half-court, on occasion. We saw that tonight. Sending RJ to the bench wouldn't help.

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    Oh noes !!!!






    OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    TP still thinks he is playing against the Mavs in the playoffs from what it looks like.... He has a great weapon in RJ and needs to try to get him in the game..

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    A coach that still plays Finley over a younger Roger Mason Jr?! PATHETIC
    Is finley shooting 22% from 3 and 28% overall from the field? Oh no, wait that's Mason...

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    The fact is that these particular players don't play well together.

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