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Then Pop may be forced to start Manu. Need a playmaker on the floor and that's about the best chance RJ will have of getting involved in the offense.
TP isn't and will never be a true PG, he doesn't have the court vision nor the mentality of a PG, he dribles too much and a lot of times doesn't make the pass when he has to. He's a scorer (a great one) and that's why he is so important for this team most of the times, but when he isn't on, he hurts the team a lot 'cause, let's face it, he doesn't have the hability to make teammates better when his own shot isn't falling.
Then Pop may be forced to start Manu. Need a playmaker on the floor and that's about the best chance RJ will have of getting involved in the offense.
1. These players haven't even really had time to get to know eachother.
2. RJ needs to not defer to Tim and Tony
3. Please don't be hurt Manu... why the bad game, after a great game?
4. Spur fans over react
Our problem is inconsistency. Sometimes players play good, sometimes they don't. Richard Jefferson is the perfect example. Against the Mavs, he put up 29 points. That's amazing.
Against the Thunder, he puts up 4 points. Manu didn't help either with his 0-8. Why people are blaming Tim and Tony when they are the only reasons we stayed in the game is beyond me.
Inconsistency is our problem.
dude it's their first game back! we will be fine. fake ass spurs fans
Richard Jefferson should be more involved. He only took four shots tonight. After a 29 point game? That's not right.
Problems like these falls on the Coach Pop and Tony Parker, since he is the PG and the Floor General. He should definitely get RJ involved more often and early, since it's clear he has trouble inserting himself later in games.
Parker handles the ball too much.
PS: Starting Blair was also a stupid idea.
I agree 100%. Tony is definitely going to have to adjust a little bit and be more of a distributor than previous years. Tony is a great scorer and we're still gonna need him to be that in the long run but his decision making looks like it needs a little work right now. It's still early though and I'm still confident that eventually this team will all be on the same page when it matters most, but it looks like its gonna be process that may take some time.
Remember when media reports were talking about the Spurs going away from plays and going more on instinct? I think that's what we saw in the two previous games. The team with TP/Tim was less concerned with setting things up and more concerned with finding wholes and blowing up.
That said, I love TP's swagger and I don't think it's ALL his fault. Tim is the quietest player on the court, but still manages to put up good numbers. Like someone else said, TP/Tim need to figure out how to work with RJ. I always figured people getting used to Manu would be the biggest hurdle, but it's clearly that we take too much time setting up and not getting results from our new cast members.
We have the weapons, we got jabs and we got hooks, but coaches gotta figure out the right combos.
The Sky is falling, the Sky is falling. We lost to a young team that had a 4-4 record coming in that is 4th in defensive efficieny, has guys that are matchup problems for us, are tall all over the court, have decent depth, and an emerging star that can take over games and get a shot off versus anybody. Russell Westbrook, who has so far been either great or horrible, had a good game.
But I thought we were going 79-3, and there would be no issues with people getting back and getting in synch with the rest of the team. We should obviously just force Tim to retire and trade/ release Tony, we're 2-0 without them, obviously we'd be the champion with them out.
While we're at it, we should replace Pop with Byron Scott, he won coach of the year recently, have Isiah Thomas replace RC Buford, and convince Sterling and Holt to trade Franchises.
Because, obviously, after 9 games we know definitively the outcome of the season.
clearly you guys are smarter than a 4 time championship coach. spot on.
parker is a one trick pony and you take away that trick he's got nothing else.
tony parker's go to move.
trade parker for paquiao
I love imagining these people creating/contributing to these threads.
WE LOST BY A ONE POSSESSION SHOT?? EGAD!
I thought the problem was more on the defensive end. The Spurs didn't have anywhere near the intensity needed and they couldn't get stops when they had to. I'm not sure that DUncan and Parker were the problem, but something is.
Clearly they are. They are old. Your team has been old for 10 years it's about time you realized. DUh. Time to trade in the useless spurm chips and get a real team. Your franchise player is a joke who can't jump. You don't stand a chance against the RAINING NBA CHAMPS. Just try to play small ball. HAH. Small balls from the Spurmz.
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Tim and Tony need to come off the bench you know it I know it, their to one dimensional now, Manu and Hill should start while Blair and Dyss fill the front, problem solved yaay!!!!! GO TEAM!!!!! of course pop wont ever ponder that thought, cuz Timmy and Tony are hero's, got us 3 rings and have took'n less money to win, so were gunna have to hope they work it out with TD and TP on A-Team. Dont get me wrong either I know Hill & Blair are yungin's who wont be so tuff in the summer, but of course TD MANU and TP should be on the floor in the clutch but the kidz are too dope for limited role player acts.and im not gunna lie Hill's major improvement and number 8's lousy play have made me down with movin Mase and TP, for wut thats anutta thread.
"Raining" Champs.LOL WTF is this ?
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Sad but I think rj should come of the bench with hill. Parker takes away just as much as he gives. Rj made his name playing alongside one of the greatest passers this league has seen. Tony parker is not that. Hill has a little more in the passing dept and will readily give it to rj. We suffer from oddly matched talent
This is why i was skepticle about the spurs trading for RJ. Our defense still isnt right, and offensively were up and down cause of our personnel. When the RJ trade happened i was excited cause we had another weapon and more importantly manu insurance. But alot of folks were talking about TP and RJ hooking up for alley-oops and stuff to that effect. Thats not TPs game just like being a spot up shooter isnt RJ's game. I was hoping for a combo trade with us getting back two role players instead a big-gun allstar. A defensive stopper and a Big. I was thinking 1 - Battier/Scola 2 - Pryzbilla/Outlaw 3 Murphy/Jones. That way TP would not be obligated to pass the rock and the other players wouldnt be affected. With RJ getting him on the move in the halfcourt or leaking out for a dunk is his thing. TP looks to score in the halfcourt and is a one-man fastbreak (which has been very effective). That doesnt leave much for RJ.
lol at all the posters on here who think RJ should be relegated to the bench, that
the player who should be making way is TP
I kinda agree, but be careful bro those are fighting words to many in spurstalk.
I don't know about that. Clearly RJ feels better when he isn't playing alongside TP and TD, maybe coming off the bench and beign the go to guy on his first minutes in the game will help him to gain confidence for the rest of the game, and hopefully that confidence will give help him to mesh better with our stars for the final minutes when we'll need our best players playing toghether.
Benching RJ and starting Manu may not be a bad idea.
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