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That would be a bit hard since I don't have a server.
No. I used to also. It was a nice way to make money between the ages of 10 to 12 before I got a paper route.
Before I continue this debate do I have any data on your FTP server?
And will you belittle me if I used to mow lawns?
No.
That would be a bit hard since I don't have a server.
No. I used to also. It was a nice way to make money between the ages of 10 to 12 before I got a paper route.
Hey Mouse.
How about looking at the various topics Myth Busters did related to busting Moon Hoax propaganda. Here's one:
Happy Birthday Mouse. Here's another gift:
DID WE LAND ON THE MOON?
I dont have a dog in this fight, but cmon, thats funny. WC innocently answers a very loaded question.
I had to ask, It seems according to phyzik to be important when debating NASA.
#1No. I used to also. It was a nice way to make money between the ages of 10 to 12 before I got a paper route.
Don't talk down to people who mow lawns ,make beds, or bus tables for a living. There are certain things you don't do make fun of someone struggling to support his or her kids, or people who may suffer from a medical problems such as Cancer ect...try and show some class even though I have yet to see you show any in the last few years you post at ST.
Tpark is an exception he works as a carnie and he loves to talk he brings the funnel cake and tilt a whirl smack to the table so we use it.
He brags about how much money he has and can't decide which fancy hotel to stay in when he is in Paris to pick up his 2012 Ram truck where he forgot his masters degree in the glove box next to his court side season Spurs tickets.
Ask anyone at this site he draws first blood in all his postings.
#2 The reason I mowed lawns a friend of mine who owns a karate studio had a landscaping business and some of his employee's quit on him, since he was going to go in business with me when i was remodeling homes I offered to help him. Hey it was a cool way to get out of the house and help out a friend.
Since Kori and LJ have been sponsoring me in submitting my art work at 125.00 a pop I offered to pay them back kori said no thank you but you can help LJ around the house so I offered to mow her lawn.
Unlike you I don't get embarrassed getting my hands dirty. For the last 8 years I have been paying 450.00 a month in child support and I am retired from the Army so I fix laptops on the side and help people with various projects so I can stay busy and maybe help support my nasty pot smoking habit I had since 1977. I'm sure a person like you that walks on water wouldn't know anything about nasty habits.
But I am curious the Myst busters show is rather new I am just wondering how you went about proving NASA landed on the moon prior to the show.
Or did you have doubts? I already exposed your Holly Wood special effects guys on page two go back and read how they rig many of their experiments.
You can't possibly think that two guys in a makeshift laboratory with special effects props is going to convince me or anyone else NASA went to the moon when the man himself (Neil Armstrong) supposedly was the first to step on the moon won't do any interviews and has to hide in order to keep this huge lie a secret?
go ahead and keep posting your Myst buster links maybe they can convince you that the tooth fairy did leave that quarter under your pillow.
BTW why do you keep avoiding this?
go to 445/10:03
Hmmm...
I dont have a dog in this fight, but cmon, thats funny. WC innocently answers a very loaded question.
I have no idea what that term is applied for other than cutting grass. Sorry if I don't understand the perverse version of generation X, or where ever this term comes from.
Did liberals change yet another term that maybe they never did, tp a derogatory term?
I don't put people down for their jobs. I put them down for their at ude.
I have no problem with such activities.
What makes you think I do?
Well, my children are grown now, but I was paying $867 a month in 2002. Glad my kids are grown.
That depends on what someone considers nasty. I used to smoke, but quit old turkey in 2000.
As for the pot habit, I wish I had a job that I could risk to smoke it daily.
Myth Buster tests and tries to debunk things. They don't prove something happened, only that it's not impossible.
They clearly show several things that people like you claim about the moon landing as impossible, to in fact, be very possible.
Watch the arious video's and see for yourself.
See the flag move in a vacuum simulation. See how mood dirt leaves impressions. See how the shadows align correctly rather than two light sources, etc, etc, etc. They debunk all the major claims.
Avoid it? Not at all. That is the stupidest claim of all. The Van Allen belt is primarily high energy protons, which the aluminum of the capsule shields just fine for the short time they travel through the belt! There are different types of radiation you know. We aren't talking about they type of radiation you find in a nuclear power plant.
As for the video, seen it before. If I recall, Myth Busters debunk all but one of those claims.
Oh...
Is this the image they manipulated? Too clear for me to believe that:
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 11-15-2009 at 10:22 PM.
One more thing. Remember how I said in an earlier post that a live video signal could not be feed to the broadcasters. They disn't have sophisticated DSPs like we do today to convert video formats in real time. In fact, the projection method was all they had those many years ago. Food for though, if you understand it. I knew this to be the case 30 years ago. At the time, I was studying to be a communications technician:
One Giant Screwup for Mankind; an excerpt:
Building a camera that could survive the crushing g forces of liftoff and then function in near-weightlessness on the moon was only part of the challenge for Lebar. The portion of the broadcast spectrum traditionally used for video was sending vital ship data to Earth, and there was no room left for the standard black-and-white video format of the era: 525 scan lines of data at 30 frames per second, transmitted at 4.5 MHz. So Lebar helped devise a smaller "oddball format" – 320 scan lines at 10 fps, transmitted at a meager 500 kHz. Tracking stations back on Earth would take this so-called slow-scan footage, convert it for TV broadcast, and beam it to Mission Control, which would send it out for the world to see.
And that was the easy part. To ensure a direct transmission signal from the moon, NASA had to maintain stations in three continents – two in Australia (the Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station near Canberra and the Parkes Radio Observatory surrounded by sheep paddocks west of Sydney); one at the Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex in the Mojave Desert of California; and one at the Madrid Manned Flight Tracking Site in Spain.
Then why bring up the mowing? You used it as an insult saying that is something 10-12 year olds do.
And what at ude must I have to avoid such ridicule as you say?
I want to make sure I play by your rules so I can debate you w/o the insults.
Did they leave the house believing in Darwin like their father?Well, my children are grown now, but I was paying $867 a month in 2002. Glad my kids are grown.
out of choice or work forced you too?That depends on what someone considers nasty. I used to smoke, but quit old turkey in 2000.
I have an extra mower.As for the pot habit, I wish I had a job that I could risk to smoke it daily.
And they have been criticized in the past for false information. How can two men in a basement prove Jesus never lived? or if Elvis is still alive?Myth Buster tests and tries to debunk things. They don't prove something happened, only that it's not impossible.
I saw their footage and they use special effects.
How can they prove the van Allen radiation belts are not deadly? How can they prove NASA didn't stage the landing? Why was president Nixon busted for making a speech in case the scam went wrong he had a plan B?They clearly show several things that people like you claim about the moon landing as impossible, to in fact, be very possible.
Why make a recording saying the astronauts died? How can your two pot smoking pals on myth busters know what Nixon did and why?
how can lab experiments prove anything?
They only give an explanation of how it could have been they have no idea if NASA staged it all.See the flag move in a vacuum simulation. See how mood dirt leaves impressions. See how the shadows align correctly rather than two light sources, etc, etc, etc. They debunk all the major claims.
Lets say all that you say is real
Lets say you can prove man can go to the moon. that doesn't mean they did.
Sure its true Iraq could have had WMDs but they didn't your pals on Myth busters prove what could have happened on the moon yet they can't prove it happened on the moon do you understand my point?
I put the time for you so you can skip over the van Allen part I wanted you to comment on the staging of the moon in the window , how they show an arm in the lens when they said the camera was in the window then the lights come on and the camera is on the other side of the capsule they lied. also how they ed up on the dates they had on the film they could not had made the film when they did why would NASA say that was a live transmission when it wasn't? how come you and your myth buster pals avoid this topic?Avoid it? Not at all. That is the stupidest claim of all. The Van Allen belt is primarily high energy protons, which the aluminum of the capsule shields just fine for the short time they travel through the belt! There are different types of radiation you know. We aren't talking about they type of radiation you find in a nuclear power plant.
go to the 120 mark on this film
Oh...
Is this the image they manipulated? Too clear for me to believe that:
at no time did I say NASA has never gone out into space that photo is well below the van Allen belts.
Last edited by mouse; 11-15-2009 at 11:11 PM.
That doesn't explain why all the networks around the world had to view the footage second hand why couldn't NASA allow the world to have there own live feed?
Could it be so they could control anything that may show they staged it?
why were the networks forced to film the whole event off another screen?
If you want proof Bin Laden is alive don't you want to see the live footage or someone filming it off there black and white tv?
go to 215 mark on this film
...like I said, you innocently answered a very straight-forward question wihtout knowing the context in which it was asked. Its not a dig on you at all, just funny because...well, its mouse after all.
Holy , what a hypocrite you are after calling me a Wal-Mart worker earlier in the thread.
I didn't know how old you were. You brought up mowing laws, and you act like an adolescent.
Because they went through it.
How can you prove it is deadly?
There is no proof they did.
Yes, and at the same time, proving the claims that back up that they didn't go, are 100% wrong.
But now, you have no evidence that says they didn't go also.
I don't see any lies or trickery. Maybe you should watch it with an open mind, sound off, and forget what that lying says.
I lost you there.
Nothing special their but misrepresentation. So what. A filter and or backdrop was taken off. That doesn't mean there was film trickery involved. You would want a black backdrop with a hole in it to keep glare from the inner capsule. You would want a filter to darken the incoming light for contrast.
No it isn't. Well below the Van Allen belt, and we would have had pictures like what the Shuttle takes. If you look carefully, you see it overs nearly half the globe. If it was from near earth orbit, far less would be visible.
Have you read anything on the Van Allen Belt?
The Earth's atmosphere limits the belts' particles to regions above 200–1,000 km, while the belts do not extend past 7 Earth radii RE. The belts are confined to an area which extends about 65° from the celestial equator.The inner Van Allen Belt extends from an al ude of 100–10,000 km (0.01 to 1.5 Earth radii) above the Earth's surface, and contains high concentrations of energetic protons with energies exceeding 100 MeV and electrons in the range of hundreds of keV, trapped by the strong (relative to the outer belts) magnetic fields in the region.The proton belts contain protons with kinetic energies ranging from about 100 keV (which can penetrate 0.6 mm of lead) to over 400 MeV (which can penetrate 143 mm of lead).Hmmm... 2500 per year, or 6.8 per day. Perfectly safe for short periods of time.Missions beyond low earth orbit leave the protection of the geomagnetic field, and transit the Van Allen belts. Thus they may need to be shielded against exposure to cosmic rays, Van Allen radiation, or solar flares. The region between two to three earth radii lies between the two radiation belts and is sometimes referred to as the "safe zone".[10][11]
A satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium in an elliptic orbit (200 by 20,000 miles) passing through the radiation belts will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year. Almost all radiation will be received while passing the inner belt.
Now if these astronauts were in the "safe zone" only, they wouldn't be ably to take a nice picture of the Earth.he belts are a hazard for artificial satellites and moderately dangerous for human beings, difficult and expensive to shield against.
As for "energetic protons" you should read this:
Proton Therapy
What's wrong with working at wall mart? You think that is an insult? should I have said the post office?
My point was your kids chances are very slim if any that they will grow up to be astronauts! Wall mart is metaphor like in an average Joe, a regular working stiff. look here are some examples....
English Basics
Volume 3, Number 26, March 29, 1999
www.rhlschool.com
Metaphors
Metaphors are comparisons that show how two things that are not alike in most ways are similar in one important way. Metaphors are a way to describe something. Authors use them to make their writing more interesting or entertaining.
Unlike similes that use the words “as” or “like” to make a comparison, metaphors state that something is something else.
Read the statements that contain metaphors in italics. Then complete the statements that explain the metaphors.
1. Brian was a wall, bouncing every tennis ball back over the net.
This metaphor compares Brian to a wall because __________.
a. He was very strong.
b. He was very tall.
c. He kept returning the balls.
d. His body was made of cells.
2. We would have had more pizza to eat if Tammy hadn’t been such a hog.
Tammy was being compared to a hog because she __________.
a. looked like a hog
b. ate like a hog
c. smelled like a hog
d. was as smart as a hog
3. Cindy was such a mule. We couldn’t get her to change her mind.
The metaphor compares Cindy to a mule because she was __________.
a. always eating oats
b. able to do hard work
c. raised on a farm
d. very stubborn
4. The poor rat didn’t have a chance. Our old cat, a bolt of lightning, caught his prey.
The cat was compared to a bolt of lightning because he was __________.
a. very fast
b. very bright
c. not fond of fleas
d. very old
5. Even a child could carry my dog, Dogface, around for hours. He’s such a feather.
This metaphor implies that Dogface __________.
a. is not cute
b. looks like a bird
c. is not heavy
d. can fly
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Huh, I know a NASA engineer personally. This kid co-oped at my place of business, he started here as a senior in high school, graduated valedictorian, applied and was accepted to Kettering University (formerly known as GMI, or General Motors Ins ute), spent his entire undergrad career as an employee here.
Did his dissertation on one of our machine designs that were patented (helped immensely with refining the patent, as well). Made Dean's list every semester for 4 years except one (missed by fractions of GPA).
Needless to say, the y little bas was smart as all . Brilliant, really. Street-wise, he was an idiot (and I cant see that changing for him, but what do I know). Book-wise, math, science, engineering, I dont think I have ever met someone as proficent as he (baseline bum excluded, as I have never met BB).
Anyway, short story long, went on to some industrial sized excavation engineering company that took him all over the world. Bla bla bla, hooked up some NASA guys along the way, went through the rigorous application process and as far as I know is a working staff member of NASA.
If that is true way bother debating with someone you consider a kid? And you have made ofther insults in the past of me being a washed up old pot smoking hippy so how can you now say you though I was an adolescent?
If your going to set ground rules of posters who act like adolescents you may as well shut down ST, at least the NBA and politics forum for sure.
Your assuming Apollo 11 landed on the moon. your assuming all the evidence I have provided to you is false. You and your Myth buster pals have not yet proven man went to the moon. all you have is clay models , special effects and and ridiculous fantasy's as you drift deeper in your fairy tail universe.Because they went through it.
you cling on to any fabricated lie and worship it as gospel, Don't forget your one of the huge "Bush didn't know about 9/11" "WTC7 fell at almost free fall speed due to small fires" type of guy.
You try to claim you believe in some sort of creator or intelligent designer and yet you support Darwin.
your all over the place. Your like the ST version of Manu they way you flip flop on every issue.
But that is your right I suppose, you have the right to be ignorant I will just have find it in my heart to try and educate you and I hope it works this time.
The USSR sent a dog in space that dog died,How can you prove it is deadly?
A recent high-flying space mission came within close proximity to the radiation belts, and the Astronauts described the same phenomenon that Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong experienced on their way to the Moon. The phenomenon entails the Astronauts seeing white sparks of light - even with their eyes closed. This happens because the spacecraft and Astronauts are bombarded with a storm of radioactive particles that seem to penetrate everything - including the eyes. The particles fly into the eyes (the eyes can be open or closed) and cause a dance of white light.
NASA knew the effects of the Van Allen belts during the days of Apollo; and, right they should, because the Van Allen belts were the biggest obstacle standing between them and the moon.
what did a narrator of a do entary do to you for you to have such hate?forget what that lying says.
I don't hate your myth buster pals I think they are smart and funny.
what did this lady do or is it the fact she is a woman and you can't stand a female putting you in your place?
You can be honest brah its no big secret you have issues in life.
Just come clean so we can move forward.
Translation: This is a subject I want to skip over.I lost you there.
I asked you time and time again why would NASA have to stage them being half way between earth and the moon just to have it played back as a live transmission?
why would they say the camera is in the window when in fact it is on the other side of the capsule? why the lies?
please watch the film were I have noted the time line I have question try not to avoid them
go to the mark 5:29 of 9:27
this is part II start from 0:00
and please explain to us all why NASA deliberately had to lie, and feel free to use your Myth Buster pals as backup.
I just provided evidence how NASA lied to the public and you have the nerve to sayNothing special their but misrepresentation. So what. A filter and or backdrop was taken off. That doesn't mean there was film trickery involved. You would want a black backdrop with a hole in it to keep glare from the inner capsule. You would want a filter to darken the incoming light for contrast.?Nothing special
Do you have any idea how far and deep the Van Allen radiation belts are?No it isn't. Well below the Van Allen belt, and we would have had pictures like what the Shuttle takes. If you look carefully, you see it overs nearly half the globe. If it was from near earth orbit, far less would be visible.
the inner region centered at an al ude of 2000 mi. (3200 km) and the outer region at an al ude between 9000 and 12,000 mi. (14,500 and 19,000 km).
all the photos you keep posting are within the safe zones.
Yes I have and reading about it and having to pass though it are two different things.Have you read anything on the Van Allen Belt?
Picture taking can be your worst enemy my friend, if your going to pull out what pictures can or can't be taken card, if so then this one will be seen as a fraud.Now if these astronauts were in the "safe zone" only, they wouldn't be ably to take a nice picture of the Earth.
Talk about photo shop!
even Slomo has the sense to toss in a star or two.
But since you bring up pictures........................................
Email him this topic I would love to see what he can contribute.
LOL at Mouse getting completely PWNED in this thread!
Honestly, I would if I could. Cant seeing as I havent spoken to him in... , 5 years, I think? His dad is just a plain old electrician who worked his ass off putting his boys through college. The NASA engineer is the grandson of a guy who immigrated to this country with my father in law (lifelong friends).
And no offense to ST, but if I were to contact the smartass, it wouldnt be to discuss whether we landed on the ing moon or not.
No offense, but I do run a business here with a reputation.
Then I can see why you wouldn't want others to read your online postings.
Posted By DarkReign
Her ass is fake...very very fake.
...and youre still gay, not that there is anything wrong with that, but I hate to see people chin-deep in an iden y crisis.
11-13-2009, 07:04 PM
Posted By DarkReign
Good bye, cruel world
I'm leaving you today
Goodbye, goodbye
Goodbye
Goodbye all you people
Theres nothing you can say
To make me change my mind
Goodbye
Your act is old everyone knows your a mouse hater so your bias. and anyone with a 8th grade education knows I am not getting PWNED as you call it. I love when 40 year old men try sound like they are 16 years old.LOL at Mouse getting completely PWNED in this thread!
At least I am standing my ground more than you have ever done. are you still butt hurt about the photo shops? just ask me to remove them don't go through life bitter my brother,enjoy life try to get laid! go outside check out what Santa left you
Last edited by mouse; 11-17-2009 at 02:30 AM.
Last edited by mouse; 11-17-2009 at 02:31 AM.
Just callin' it like I see it. mouse = PWNED!
Funny thing, my wife reads my posts just fine and if you think anything I have ever said here even remotely compares to what I say in real life, you'd be sadly mistaken.
Beyond the more verbose political opinion I seem to have, I am actually quite tame here.
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