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    Smell The Wallet Soul_Patch's Avatar
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    So i had 5 classes to finally finish my bachelors degree i started in 1996. I decided that this past summer i would finish this . I pretty much have a career, and a steady job i am going on 3 years in. Make pretty good money, so i am not looking for much other than to finish what i started.

    first summer class is some what taxing, it is every day and pretty "notes" and study intensive, i get by going 3 - 4 times a week, and make a B in the class.

    second summer class is a ing cake walk. Interesting subject matter, "Renaissance Ideas" or something along those lines. It is an elective, and i attend about twice a week, make an A.

    This semester should be my last, i am taking three classes. Cognitive Psych, Social Psych, and Sensation and Perception.

    Cognitive Psyc is a joke. The guy gives open book / notes tests. I went one time, the first day, and realized i didnt need to go back. I have now been to the class three times. I have never ONCE cracked the book or read the slides. First day, First test and Second test...i havent scored less than an 88 on the exams, currently have an A in the class with the final to go. What i dont get is the people in there that really take this class seriously. They make study groups, etc...and are constantly using the email system thing asking questions to the class about "what did i miss?!?" wtf...

    Social Psych, same thing. Not open book tests, but all the notes and discussions are posted on the website. Never opened the book. I have been to class three 4 times. First day, and three tests, have an A in the class. Same thing, apparently people are failing this class, as there is constant stress on the class com. thing.

    Ditto with the third, although it is a bit harder as she really likes to put the hurt on those who dont attend with pop quizes and what not.


    I just dont remember college being this easy when i was younger. , i already sold all my books back last week. I also dont understand how the F this is supposed to weed out the good from the bad in society? So i get this paper saying i have a degree, and i technically attended class about 6 days a semester? I am now better than you who doesnt have this paper...joke...


    My daily rant, trying to get my B2B on.

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Where are you going to college man? I need to transfer. Are you getting a psychology related degree?

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    UTSA, yep....Bachelors in Psych.

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    ^^ true...to me its just a paper saying i finished something. Sorta like winning a spelling bee in 1st grade. It's cool, but does it really matter?

    glad i chose to finish there and not do the Phoenix online thing...my only complaint is they just dont give me the degree, and i actually have to wait to pass the classes. At this rate, does it really matter...why not just pay the money your freshman year, and they give you the degree. They would make their money, and kids could go about their lives without wasting all that time.

    i should consider a phd, then id be a certified bad ass...

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    Forum Official Personal Life Coach BacktoBasics's Avatar
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    No doubt 90% of modern day schooling is a ing cake walk from grade school on up. Its watered down and taught by unqualified predominately underpaid teachers/professors to ungrateful little bas s so its no surprise at the declining level of overall difficulty and quality.

    Its a near endless number of lazy, worthless, pathetic and generally stupid people who don't take half of college seriously because mommy or daddy are making them go even though they haven't got the slightest idea on how to capitalize on the resources of higher learning.

    Its too easy, too expensive and generally the largest wasted resource behind oil in this country.

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    Live by what you Speak. DarkReign's Avatar
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    Ive noticed that UTSA gets a really bad rap around here. I know nothing about the school, but is the relationship between UT and UTSA similar to Michigan and Michigan State?

    I wouldnt think so....even the most arrogant UM grad wouldnt belittle a MSU grad to this extent.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    UTSA is the equivalent of Wayne University (college?) in Detroit but from my understanding is probably a bit worse. UM certainly better than MSU but MSU is a far better school than UTSA.

    Look at the OP, open note tests in an upper division course? WTF?

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    UTSA is the equivalent of Wayne University (college?) in Detroit but from my understanding is probably a bit worse. UM certainly better than MSU but MSU is a far better school than UTSA.

    Look at the OP, open note tests in an upper division course? WTF?
    Those don't really sound like upper division courses, to be honest.

    My experience has been that once you've been in the real world for some while, coming back to do undergrad work is pretty easy.

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    Not only is college easy, but even graduate school can be a joke. I don't have a grad degree, but my mother was holding an adjunct position at a supposedly rigorous and prestigious local college (Westminster).

    I spent a fair amount of time leafing through papers submitted by her students. It was a ing joke. Some of those 'graduate students' could barely ing write. They were utterly clueless. It's beyond me that they made it through their undergrad degress with good enough grades to get into a grad program. It was laughable.

    I've never subscribed to objectivism- except when it comes to higher education. 's a joke.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    They don't sound like it but I'm pretty sure if these are the final courses he needs for his BS in Psych then they are.

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    Ive noticed that UTSA gets a really bad rap around here. I know nothing about the school, but is the relationship between UT and UTSA similar to Michigan and Michigan State?

    I wouldnt think so....even the most arrogant UM grad wouldnt belittle a MSU grad to this extent.
    My degrees are not from any of the universities in question, but I would venture to guess that most of the UTSA/education critics here have yet to earn a degree from any university

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    Cognitive Psych is 3103, and it is the easiest class by far. I couldnt tell you what the tests are going to even be over until test day, and like i said, i have an A in the course, with only the final left to take (also open book). I usually print out the slides about 2hrs before class, and correlate everything, then head out. I think the harest part of this class is wasting paper and ink printing everything.

    Sensation and Perception is another 3000 level class, a bit harder, but if i put even 10% effort into it, it wouldnt be that bad.

    Social Psych is the only lower division class, 2000something...but just as easy, as stated.

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    WTH? I work hard at UTSA. My major is accounting.

    There was this older lady in my federal income taxation II class who was always there, asking questions, studying and putting in all the time and failed the first test. Me, I got an 83 while probably putting less time and effort in the class. Don't get me wrong I did the review and what not, but sometimes people just have it, and others don't. Be glad you naturally get stuff, that other people need a whole lot of time to learn, and can't even learn it.

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    WTH? I work hard at UTSA. My major is accounting.

    There was this older lady in my federal income taxation II class who was always there, asking questions, studying and putting in all the time and failed the first test. Me, I got an 83 while probably putting less time and effort in the class. Don't get me wrong I did the review and what not, but sometimes people just have it, and others don't. Be glad you naturally get stuff, that other people need a whole lot of time to learn, and can't even learn it.
    The world needs ditch diggers.

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    The world needs ditch diggers.
    Man, you want the old lady to dig!??

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    Ahhh.As long as its not me....

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    Its one thing to naturally have it but its quite another to be allowed to take an open book final in an upper division course.

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    IMO even the people who 'don't have it' are too often subsidized. The US higher-ed system loves it some acquiescence to mediocrity.

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    Its one thing to naturally have it but its quite another to be allowed to take an open book final in an upper division course.
    ^^This...

    believe me, im not really complaining, as i have a family, life, full time job, mortgage etc...but wow...

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    Veteran spursfan09's Avatar
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    Its one thing to naturally have it but its quite another to be allowed to take an open book final in an upper division course.
    I think it depends on what type of class...

    I know in Federal Income Tax I, we used the book, but that was because there are all these rates that change every year. Basically there was no point in memorizing it. We just had to know how to apply them...

    But now in Tax II, we are not allowed to used the book... go figure...

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    You know what is terrible. Even with the open book / notes thing. Each exam there are at least 3 to 5 people that score below a 70...


    explain that ...completely and utterly baffles me that i can spend 0% time focused on this class, and have an A, and there are others who are most likely failing.

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    In my stats class, not utsa, the tests were open book open note. One guy still failed and several got in the 70s.

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    And here my oldest will be heading to college in a few years! So many schools, so many decisions and options. And I always here how UTSA is so bad yet I know quite a few friends who graduated from there are doing very well.
    I keep telling her that college is going to be tough and demanding.

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    Its one thing to naturally have it but its quite another to be allowed to take an open book final in an upper division course.
    The hardest final (by far) that I ever took was a take-home. Open-notes only make an exam easy if your professor is lazy and gives you problems he's already solved in class or things that have one-line answers. In my experience open-notes exams are almost always more challenging (and interesting) than ones that expect memorization.

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