Is Kobe going to retire with 6 rings?

[j.dizzle]

bump this in 2014 & we'll know then haha

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

He was a slasher. Those are high-percentage shots.

Regardless, the player who can get the highest percentage shot is the best player. 26 YO MJ > 26 YO Kobe

[iggypop123]

you already know my answer

[Darrin]

i just looked at kobe's 3pt percentages

he has some horrible years in there.

at least MJ shot 42% from the 3pt in 96 with 260 attempted shots, which is a nice big amount to make the season worth mentioning

.173
.167
.276
.182
.132
.276

That's Jordan's 3-point percentage in the first 6 seasons--to the age of 26.

[redzero]

He was a slasher. Those are high-percentage shots.

Your point? It all still counted the same. Jordan scored more points at a better rate.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Your point? It all still counted the same. Jordan scored more points at a better rate.

You must have not got the memo a jump shot counts for more than a layup.

[j.dizzle]

The problem with stats is that Kobe is so desperate to catch up, he ing pads like there's no tomorrow. Take tonight's game. Lakers were up close to 30 points at some point.
Did you really need to trot out Kobe, who is nursing a groin injury, in order to win that game?
No, he just wanted to add another 40 point game against a Piston team that already have given up.

I'm actually fortunate to have seen both play, and it's really not close.

phil started his garbage time players in the 4th & they slashed the lead in half so he had to put in kobe to guarantee the win..He should thank phil for his wack ass rotations year after year.

[ElNono]

For his career.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1989.html

Take a look.

what part of 'he didn't dominate since he started playing' you don't understand?
Also what part of 'once he started to dominate, there were no if, buts or almosts' you dont get?

And BTW, that year he started to show he was going to be a monster...

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Mehmet Okur is better than Shaq for the simple reason he developed a jumper and Shaq didn't.

[MiamiHeat]

.173
.167
.276
.182
.132
.276

That's Jordan's 3-point percentage in the first 6 seasons--to the age of 26.

.515
.457
.482
.535
.538
.526
.539
.519
.495

That's Jordan's FG% in the first 9 seasons .

[Darrin]

Your point? It all still counted the same. Jordan scored more points at a better rate.

He didn't have a 27 ppg scorer on his team. The highest a Jordan teammate ever got was 19. Jordan never played second-bannana.

And the point was what I said earlier--that Jordan couldn't shred a team with an inside-outside attack at the age of 26. He had room to grow and he did. Kobe has done the same. I was challenged on this point because Michael Jordan is God and never had a hole in his game. That is my point.

[Darrin]

.515
.457
.482
.535
.538
.526
.539
.519
.495

That's Jordan's FG% in the first 9 seasons .

My point is that he didn't have a jumper until 1990, at the age of 27. I have tape to prove it, but I can't put it online.

[ElNono]

phil started his garbage time players in the 4th & they slashed the lead in half so he had to put in kobe to guarantee the win..He should thank phil for his wack ass rotations year after year.

It was still a 15 point game with 2 minutes to go... I mean, come on

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Jordan couldn't shred a team with an inside-outside attack at the age of 26.

Neither could Shaq, while Mehmet Okur could. Okur > Shaq

[MiamiHeat]

lmao

darrin isn't even worth arguing with

If God came down to play basketball, and dunked the ball every change he could get, shot 50% for his career,

according to Darrin, he is incomplete because he dunks so much. He should settle for some long range low percentage 3pters.

lmao

[Darrin]

Fortunately for him his inside attack was so dominant that didn't matter.

But it wasn't until he rounded into form that he made the Finals. It wasn't until the team could win 60 games.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

My point is that he didn't have a jumper until 1990, at the age of 27.

If that's the only point you've been trying to make the last 5 pages then fine, have your stupid point. It still does nothing to debunk the obvious reality MJ >>> Kobe.

[Darrin]

If that's the only point you've been trying to make the last 5 pages then fine, have your stupid point. It still does nothing to debunk the obvious reality MJ >>> Kobe.

No, it does. You said 'since when is 26 young' to say that Kobe didn't add to his game and didn't round out.

[MiamiHeat]

the only teams that bounced the Bulls were the Bird Celtics in 86, who went on to become NBA Champs, and the bad boy pistons for a couple years, also went on to become 2 time back to back champs. both teams among the best in NBA history, especially on defense.

and this is considering that MJ was drafted into a ty lottery Bulls team, yet MJ immediately dragged them to the playoffs as soon as he got there. didn't take long for MJ to become unstoppable.

[ElNono]

Let's put it this way, at 29 years old, Jordan was kicking ass and taking names. And he didn't look back after that. At 30 years old, Kobe was still getting his ass kicked in an NBA Finals with a superior surrounding cast.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

But it wasn't until he rounded into form that he made the Finals. It wasn't until the team could win 60 games.

Jordan shot 27.6% from 3-land in 1989. He shot 31.2% from long range in 1991. Are you saying that the gargantuan 3.6% improvement from long range is the reason he made the finals in 1991?

[MiamiHeat]

Show me AN INSTANCE WHERE KOBE HAS "DOMINATED" an elite team. SHOW ME!

81 point game? Raptors LMAO!! Jalen Rose lmao!!!!

Finals? what he ever done? really, what has kobe ever done?


anyway, i am finished eating my lasagna. it was delicious. im off for now

[Darrin]

Jordan shot 27.6% from 3-land in 1989. He shot 31.2% from long range in 1991. Are you saying that the gargantuan 3.6% improvement from long range is the reason he made the finals in 1991?

No. It isn't the three-pointer, it's the jumper.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No, it does. You said 'since when is 26 young' to say that Kobe didn't add to his game and didn't round out.

So what's your point?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

No. It isn't the three-pointer, it's the jumper.

The jumper obviously wasn't much better in 1991, this is evident by the minimal change in 3PT%.