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    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/20091...sperity-gospel

    America’s mainstream religious denominations used to teach the faithful that they would be rewarded in the afterlife. But over the past generation, a different strain of Christian faith has proliferated—one that promises to make believers rich in the here and now. Known as the prosperity gospel, and claiming tens of millions of adherents, it fosters risk-taking and intense material optimism. It pumped air into the housing bubble. And one year into the worst downturn since the Depression, it’s still going strong.

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    Now they want to blame this economic crisis on religion? Man - they are REALLY reaching.

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    So faith, in its various forms, is immaterial in this country?

    BTW, who is this "they"?

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    man, i could watch the wild bunch time and time again.

    anyway, nice article with a lousy le.

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    The article itself focuses on the prosperity gospel rather than any link to the crash. The le is terrible, but it probably did its job -- it's all about the clicks.

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    Quite possibly the most brilliant article I have ever read. Seldom have I seen such a bullseye nail so perfectly the cause of a financial collapse.

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    False prophets looking to profit.

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    Quite possibly the most brilliant article I have ever read. Seldom have I seen such a bullseye nail so perfectly the cause of a financial collapse.
    Your sarcasm misfires because, like Crookshanks, you probably didn't read any further than the totally misleading banner. If you had, what you just said wouldn't have made much sense to you.

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    not the crash, but this particular brand of religion could have caused some individuals to "go all in" on a bad hand instead of folding. Kenny Rogers wasn't just singing for the f*** of it, folks. The man knew.

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    Your sarcasm misfires because, like Crookshanks, you probably didn't read any further than the totally misleading banner. If you had, what you just said wouldn't have made much sense to you.
    You're right Winehole - I didn't read the entire article when I posted that response. But I did go back and read the whole thing and I have to agree that the le was misleading. But I think they did that on purpose because it would generate more interest.

    Personally - I have a real problem with churches that preach this prosperity gospel. I think those preachers are comparable to false prophets and I think Joel Osteen is the biggest one of all. I can't stand him or his "preaching". As Rick Warren said - prosperity gospel is a bunch of baloney. It's very sad that these preachers lead their congregation down a false path. And they take advantage of poor minority individuals.

    After reading the entire article, I think it is possible that this type of false message of wealth and prosperity most likely did contribute to the collapse of the housing market. But I don't think you can call it christianity - Jesus never promised that everybody would be rich.

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    Adding the word help in the le would have been...helpful.

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    That would be Joel Olsteen. He cracks me up with this 'god WANTS you to have that new car. He WANTS you to have that new house.'

    Uhmm, no, he doesn't. He doesn't even care. God told you exactly what he wants you to do. The teachings of christianity are replete with warnings of love for material possessions and greed, rather than love for god and your fellow man. I would assume most if not all religions warn of this...barring of course the 'Church' of Scientology, which isn't really a religion at all.

    But, more power to 'em I guess. But I don't think they are big enough in number to affect anything. Not like Muslims aren't out to make a buck. Or Catholics, or Hindu's....athiests....Mormons.
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    Your sarcasm misfires because, like Crookshanks
    My reply was nothing like crookshanks.

    you probably didn't read any further than the totally misleading banner.
    I wouldn't have said I read the article if I hadn't.


    If you had, what you just said wouldn't have made much sense to you.
    On the contrary my dear hole, I don't find anything particularly misleading about the le.

    I do find tons of irony though...tons of it.

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    Your sarcasm misfires because, like Crookshanks, you probably didn't read any further than the totally misleading banner. If you had, what you just said wouldn't have made much sense to you.
    I'm not entirely sure but Whottt probably wasn't being sarcastic.

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    Actually I was simply giving Marcus the response I figured he wanted. I can see why it could be taken as sarcasm...but it was mainly just to with him. It really didn't have that much to do with article...it had a lot more to do with Marcus Bryant and the particularly stupid spate of articles he has been posting recently.

    ...it's hilarious that a guy whose basketball creed is spend spend spend(especially hilarious this year),throw money at it, and sign any criminal that ever put up 10ppg ,who fancies himself a conservative, is posting a bull article by a liberal jew on some sort of evil new materialism arising in Christianity.

    And as you yourself(mr hole) pointed out...the purpose of the le makes it even more amusing.


    My guess is Marcus Bryant must be missing his college days.


    I feel my response was appropriate.

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    I don't fancy myself a conservative.

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    i do remember reading that in political science classes that a conservative was defined as one who felt a fiscal responsibility to stay under the luxury tax and that it was the liberals who wanted to do away with salary caps.
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    That is, I don't fancy myself to be a neo-progressive scrotum sucker like whottt.

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    I love when non christians try to tell people what evangelicals and the christian teachings tell us. Beside them telling us Rinos are the republicans only hope - this is the best advice.

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    I love when non christians try to tell people what evangelicals and the christian teachings tell us. Beside them telling us Rinos are the republicans only hope - this is the best advice.
    Which non-Christians are that? I read the article kind of quickly, did the author or any of the quoted parties declared themselves to be non-Christian?

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    This is the most idiotic article ever posted. Marcus Bryant has proved his moronic rep.

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    I actually thought it was a well-written article. They talked about the whole prosperity gospel movement, but they didn't give an opinion one way or the other. They gave information and readers can make up their own mind.

    The le was the hook because it got people from both ends of the spectrum interested - and I guess that's what a good journalist should do.

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    This is the most idiotic article ever posted. Marcus Bryant has proved his moronic rep.
    What specifically did you find idiotic about it?

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    The le was the hook because it got people from both ends of the spectrum interested - and I guess that's what a good journalist should do.
    It's what spursncowboys does

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