4 Down... 4 down... 4 down...

[Rynospursfan]

Don't give the ball to your best player.

Good idea.

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[ThaiFanofSpurs]

I agree with many posters here. Without Manu and TP and with RJ kind of having a bad game, it seems like how TD played would be how to get the easiest points plus chanses of going to the free throw line. But he didn't get any call (especially the last one he should have.) Anyway, I am upset with the loss but I am not too disappointed with how we played. We could have won the game and we are still a work in progress. What worries me the most is how RJ is gonna handle the pressure when we are down in the close games, especially in the POs.

[Dice]

Everybody was off tonight... Look at the end of regulation, we couldn't buy a bucket.
The problem is that Tim simply doesn't command the respect he did earlier in his career, and he will get no whistle. But I'll take 4 down over Mason jacking up a three all day.

McDyess hit both his jumpers and a couple of free throws in the fourth. He then hit the only shot he took in the OT. Jefferson shot a three pointer early in the OT and never got another look.

George Hill tried to force his offense towards the end of the game and pumping the ball into Duncan is never a bad idea but he has to deliver. I would have liked to see some of the other guys try and knock down a shot towards the end though.

[Mr.Robinson]

Duncan comes within a two foot chippy from leading the Spurs to victory on the road against a top rival with minimal help but instead he's the problem and holding the team back.

Classic.

This. Sucks he missed though.

[DisAsTerBot]

how bout posting up rj who had one of terry, kidd, or barrea on him.

[bigdog]

If Duncan would've slammed that putback we'd all be celebrating a Spurs win. Don't blame Duncan for the loss. No one else was doing .

[benefactor]

So let me get this straight....Duncan makes the shot to send it to overtime and Duncan makes the block that prevents the Mavs final chance in regulation...and you want to piss and moan because we are feeding him in the post repeatedly against Dirk and Kris freaking Humphries?

Please tell me what option would have given us a better chance to win.

[TJastal]

So let me get this straight....Duncan makes the shot to send it to overtime and Duncan makes the block that prevents the Mavs final chance in regulation...and you want to piss and moan because we are feeding him in the post repeatedly against Dirk and Kris freaking Humphries?

Please tell me what option would have given us a better chance to win.

I would like to see Jefferson get some opportunities to close out games and see what he can do. That would get his confidence going too which seems to be a big thing with him.

[benefactor]

I would like to see Jefferson get some opportunities to close out games and see what he can do. That would get his confidence going too which seems to be a big thing with him.

As would I...but last night the match ups heavily favored Duncan, especially with him making two big plays to send the game to OT.

[benefactor]

We're just happy to get to overtime now? When did that happen?

No...but Duncan got us there and he was facing inferior defenders for the rest of the game. Forgive me if I missed it, but what option did you think was better?

[DisAsTerBot]

No...but Duncan got us there and he was facing inferior defenders for the rest of the game. Forgive me if I missed it, but what option did you think was better?

how bout posting up rj who had one of terry, kidd, or barrea on him.

[portnoy1]

how bout posting up rj who had one of terry, kidd, or barrea on him.

They kinda tried that, and it worked to a degree. More of it you say? I would like that. RJ however didnt have a great game. It was decent but not great. Decent isnt going to cut if 2 of the big 3 are out. Finley got a post-up opportunity and converted over JKIDD. Ironically the same matchup he seen last season in the playoffs. Makes you wonder why couldnt he have gotten a few more touches in the post against smaller players in that series. Oh yeah, Parker was going for 60pts. Kinda hard to see mismatches when you only see the rim.

[benefactor]

how bout posting up rj who had one of terry, kidd, or barrea on him.

So posting up RJ on inferior players is better than posting up Duncan on inferior players...got it.

Remember...he had just made two huge plays to send it to OT and RJ currently had twice as many turnovers as anyone on the team.

[benefactor]

The one where hill had an and 1 first play out, or Dice hitting most of his 16 footers late in the game.

Duncan in the post against Humphries or Dirk>>>second year PG or anyone shooting from 16 feet. If you can't see the reasons why then there is no help for you.

[portnoy1]

So posting up RJ on inferior players is better than posting up Duncan on inferior players...got it.

Remember...he had just made two huge plays to send it to OT and RJ currently had twice as many turnovers as anyone on the team.

Like I said, RJ didnt have a great game. I think we seen enough post-ups from RJ in this last game. More importantly they looked for him. Im am concerned about tonights game. I would like to see them continue to look for RJ in the post some more. I would like it to be like the 91' Lakers where they had 3-4 guys to post up and the other guys would either shoot or cut off the double teams. Post-up Tim/RJ/Dice and if a smaller guard is on him, even Finley. And then have guys to shoot and cut. GHILL/RJ can both cut. While Finley/DICE can both shoot of double teams. That way we get some paint points. Also if we play defense the way we did last night, I like our chances.

[benefactor]

Like I said, RJ didnt have a great game. I think we seen enough post-ups from RJ in this last game. More importantly they looked for him. Im am concerned about tonights game. I would like to see them continue to look for RJ in the post some more. I would like it to be like the 91' Lakers where they had 3-4 guys to post up and the other guys would either shoot or cut off the double teams. Post-up Tim/RJ/Dice and if a smaller guard is on him, even Finley. And then have guys to shoot and cut. GHILL/RJ can both cut. While Finley/DICE can both shoot of double teams. That way we get some paint points. Also if we play defense the way we did last night, I like our chances.

I actually like RJ better facing up and going hard to the rim to draw contact. I would only want him posting up a lot if the match up is favorable.

[portnoy1]

I actually like RJ better facing up and going hard to the rim to draw contact. I would only want him posting up a lot if the match up is favorable.

Yeah, Thats cool if he faces up. I just want him mid-post ISO and let the defense react. Instead of Doubling Duncan an leaving everybody else to their own device.

[portnoy1]

By the way benefactor, did you see RMJ try to go top-shelf on one of the mavericks bigs?

[DaBears]

without duncan it wouldnt even have been a game. critisism should go to the supporting cast... and yes that includes everyones fest RICHARD JEFFERSON. i dont care how new you are or whos adjusting or whatever... this guy has to score more.. period. POP also ed this game with misusing his timeouts.

LISTEN: Lets all quit blaming the players on the court, who are the ones out playing game and start blaming the coach...... ITS a coachs job to make sure players are in the spots and matching up..... Duncan while he had a productive game ends up clogging the lane(as well as the other 4 defenders) and everyone else stands around watching... Last night i noticed no movement, 2 fast break pts all night that is pathetic.....

Richard Jefferson is having to try to make something out of nothing out there.. And he seems to really be getting fustrated as the games go on...

Spurs turned over the ball way too much and could not rebound which is no new story this season...

When is the Coach going to say enough is enough.. Everyone who says its early in the season still.. I ask you when is the time up for that excuse... Let me guess when it's too late.... 9 games into the season and i for one see no improvement in team chemistry or production......

SPURS Fan 4 LIFE..

[portnoy1]

could not rebound which is no new story this season...



SPURS Fan 4 LIFE..

Rebounding edge belonged to the spurs if im correct 50 to 49. Of note Duncan 14/RJ 11/Bonner 10.

[DaBears]

I would not be happy about the 1 rebound edge.. That is nothing to bragg about..

We got killed on 2nd chance pts (Gooden, Dirk, Jason Kidd) all of which hurt us on put backs....

[DesignatedT]

LISTEN: Lets all quit blaming the players on the court, who are the ones out playing game and start blaming the coach...... ITS a coachs job to make sure players are in the spots and matching up..... Duncan while he had a productive game ends up clogging the lane(as well as the other 4 defenders) and everyone else stands around watching... Last night i noticed no movement, 2 fast break pts all night that is pathetic.....

Richard Jefferson is having to try to make something out of nothing out there.. And he seems to really be getting fustrated as the games go on...

Spurs turned over the ball way too much and could not rebound which is no new story this season...

When is the Coach going to say enough is enough.. Everyone who says its early in the season still.. I ask you when is the time up for that excuse... Let me guess when it's too late.... 9 games into the season and i for one see no improvement in team chemistry or production......

SPURS Fan 4 LIFE..

I can agree with this.. i was simply coming to duncans defense on how people on here could criticize him for his performance last night.

As for Pop i totally agree and he needs to get his together fast..

RJ has to be more productive on the offensive end period. there is no exceptions on this.... especially with manu looking the way he is early with these injuries... and that means taking more than 11 shots. I definitely understand the concept that pop needs to run more plays or put RJ in better positions to score the rock but this guy is supposed to be "top 3" small forward in the game today" so he is going to HAVE to create something out of nothing SOMETIMES.

13 pts from him with no tony or manu isnt going to get it done... i will also gaurantee another LOSS tonight if RJ only scores 13.

but then again, its early

[DesignatedT]

Looks like you got your wish.... No 4 DOWN called tonight in crunch time against Utah.... really payed off. LMAO mason LMAO hill LMAO defense

[Josepatches_]

Looks like you got your wish.... No 4 DOWN called tonight in crunch time against Utah.... really payed off. LMAO mason LMAO hill LMAO defense